Dayspring said:

It seems like she's desperately trying to make this a serious show, which she shouldn't.

GangstaFam said:

that's what i liked about the last one. even though it was an enormous production (and had a few moments of seriousness), it mostly just stuck to the mission of entertaining. this one seems like it would benefit even more from that. equestrianism and crucifixion doesn't really fit that bill....

ehuffnsd said:

Dayspring said:

equestrianism and crucifixion actually strike me as comedic

heartbeatocean said:

Juxtaposed with disco music, sure.

GangstaFam said:

A lot of fans seem extatic about this set list, but im still not convinced. While I respect Madonnas desire to NEVER repeat hersefl in her live performances, i find it difficult also to expect people to pay the prices they are doing, and not hear a lot of the classics they love.

Im thrilled she's performing a lot of the album tracks as i think most of them will work excellently live, and I think the first segment, up to Live to Tell is good, but it gets lost for me there.

I thought the drowned world tour was good, but my favourite part is still La Isla Bonita into Holiday, not the new stuff she did. I loved the Reinvention tour because she peppered it with old stuff throughout, and really did justice to the new stuff, so that it flowed brilliantly.

For me, it would have been perfect if she'd done one long dance set (with perhaps one ballad in there "Live to tell"), and included some of her dance classics (Vogue, Everybody, Holiday, Into The Groove, Express Yourself), but i guess she already covered most of those on the last tour.

We should really reserve judgement till we see it, you never know, you may love what she's done.

MikeMatronik said:

i WANT to wear this one!

HOT. and CLASSY.

MikeMatronik said:

MICHAEL JACKSON GOES BLONDE!!!

glamslam2themax said:

Surely you meant John Travolta...

CinisterCee said:

I think maybe they meant the face.

CrozzaUK said:

Yeah, you're probably right. But in my mind, it just doesn't add up.

GangstaFam said:

Oh, OK.

i could so totally do without the crown of thorns.

first off, there are far better ways to be "shocking" and "controversial" with religious imagery. this would just be a cheap, lame, and easy way of stirring the shit. secondly, who does madonna think she's fooling? since when is she being persecuted? bitches are paying up to 350 bucks (legit price) to see her...that hardly sounds like someone being persecuted. the idea just screams of mockery and i thought she was the new and matured version of madonna?

i don't know, i guess i expect it from a young adult/kid but madonna is damn near 50. its time for her to learn how to be controversial, subtle, and thought provoking all at once.

as for the setlist and costumes...H O T!!! love it! i still don't think that's the real setlist (which is why i'm reading it) and once the tour starts i will not be reading any of the posted setlists. i'd like to be surprised a little.

sallysassalot said:

Well said. I feel ya.

I love the customes...Just hope the music matches the spectacle.

sallysassalot said:

it's a sad day when madonna resorts to wearing marilyn manson's hand-me-downs.

Just gonna tweak the selection a bit:

Future Lovers ong (with Prince)
Get Together Into The Groove
Like A Virgin Prayer
Burning Jump
Live To Tell
Justify My Forbidden Love
La Is l aac Bonita
Sorry ecret
Why's Like It S Or Not Hard
Hollywood Sorry (remix)
I Love New York Don't Live Here Anymore

etc.

CinisterCee said:

sallysassalot said:

I think this discussion is really funny. What's the difference between wearing a crown of thorns and all the other hoaky stuff she does? Like on her last tour being strapped in an electric chair, leaping about the stage wearing fatigues and a rifle, singing Imagine to a sappy montage of the Palestinian and Israeli flags melded together. None of this is exactly intellectual gunpowder. Subtlety is not her forte. Seems a lot of her act relies on pushing buttons viscerally with no real integration of meaning or message. Her symbology works as a sort of decoy bringing hyper-codification to the surface. This is what is called Postmodernism.

heartbeatocean said:

or she's just out of touch with what matters?

Dayspring said:

I like this setlist alot.I'm thrilled that she is making this tour all about 'COADF'.She's performing the entire album minus "Push" and "How High".She could have easily played it safe and just did a simple Greatest Hits tour,or a tour devoted to her dance hits,but that would have been too easy for her.Madonna likes to challenge herself and her fans.Remember the bold setlist for 'The Drowned World Tour'? Many fans were shocked when they first saw it.I predict that this tour will be similiar to the DWT in that it will be very adventurous and unconventional.Yes,the main theme will be dance music,but I think Maddy is gonna dig deeper and make it much more complex and controversial.That's her style.

paisleypark4 said:

Originally,she had decided to do "Deeper and Deeper",but one day at rehearsal,she did "Erotica" as a surprise for her husband.It worked out so well that she added it to the setlist.It's described as a fun,tongue-in-cheek version.

Anx said:

I don't know about that.The costume ideas only "leaked" a few days ago,and they already had the first dress rehearsal on Saturday.It seems like,at this point,it would be too late to replace Gaultier's costumes.Here's an update from the rehearsals:

The full dress rehearsal of Madonna's "Confessions Tour" took place on Saturday May 13 in Los Angeles.The 400 costumes produced for Madonna,her dancers and her band have been shipped to L.A. last Thursday,and they have been entirely created at the Gaultier mansion with the exception of some other costumes that have been produced byt Hermes,where Gaultier is responsible for the design of the female collection.

The rehearsals that took place over the weekend have been entirely filmed to let the team double-check if everything goes smoothly.During one of the rehearsals,one of the choreographers traded places with Madonna onstage,so she would be able to have a final look at the show from the audience's point of view.

heartbeatocean said:

i love this.

sallysassalot said:

ah, but then you're lumping her in with the modernists who were concerned with and believed in the creation of meaning.

Let us ponder...

"Simulation...is opposed to representation. The latter starts from the principle that the sign and the real are equivalent. Conversely, simulation starts from...the radical negation of the sign as a value.

The successive phases of the image:

-it is the reflection of a basic reality
-it masks and perverts a basic reality
-it masks the absence of a basic reality
-it bears no relation to any reality"

-Simulations by Jean Baudrillard

heartbeatocean said:

yeah, i read something similar in my film classes when we hit the postmodernist period of film. if you think madonna is trying to get that deep, though, you'd better think again.

sallysassalot said:

but see post-modernism isn't deep, it's all about surface, the recycling of cultural material, where media becomes nothing more than a series reflections without substance. That's why Madonna, to me, is the perfect post-modernist. Not that she knows anything about this -- but it does explain her significance in modern times. The concept of reinvention and the way she uses it is precisely a postmodern paradigm.

All this from her costumes.

I can't believe it....I am seeing Madonna in TWO MORE WEEKS!!!!

After months of rumors,setlists,media reports,ticket sales,and listening to all of her CDs and watching her movies...


The tour is here!! I'm ecstatic!

DavidEye said: