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Thread started 05/01/06 2:42pm

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Z Cult Faves/ "Red Hot Momma", "Alice In My Fantasies", & "Super Stupid"

Man,...listen. Ya'll know that my love for Parliament/Funkadelic runs deep and this is ONE of the reasons why. These 3 songs just capture an element of these cats that truly speaks to my soul. Even when I was 8 years old, I UNDERSTOOD this....sound. It makes a cat see things that I may can't put into words. To say these songs have had a HUGE influence on me as a musician is a gross understatement. Man,...I just love this "side" from these cats. I adore it. Saying "Black Rock" is like saying grass is green, but this is the epitome of "Black Rock". If anyone ever ask u what is "Black Rock", PLEASE play them this and turn it up as loud as your speakers will allow! Who else loves these songs?
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Reply #1 posted 05/01/06 2:56pm

SPYZFAN1

Uh oh..Gotta feelin' this is gonna be a loooong thread. Eddie's milestone. "G Cook" definetly threw down on this classic. One of my all time fave Funkadelic relics ("Standing On The Verge"). My old band used to play "Alice" and I always made sure I played Eddie's solo note for note. "Alice" and "Super Stupid" are heavy metal classics right up there with "Sweet Leaf" (Sabbath) and "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (Jimi)...Great thread Brutha B. Can't wait to read the other repsonses!
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Reply #2 posted 05/01/06 3:02pm

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Yes, these are definitely the songs to use to disabuse people of the notion that black people don't do hard rock. Super Stupid and Alice in My fantasies are metal pure and simple, but much funkier than any metal released in the decade (with the possible exception of some songs by Deep Purple), or ever for that matter. Eddie Hazel gave birth to funk-metal while the red hot chili peppers were still a glint in the milkman's eye (and I suppose that milkman was G.C. himself anyway).
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Reply #3 posted 05/01/06 3:06pm

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biggrin Vital Juices/Red Hot Momma woot! fro headbang





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Reply #4 posted 05/01/06 3:42pm

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SPYZFAN1 said:

Uh oh..Gotta feelin' this is gonna be a loooong thread. Eddie's milestone. "G Cook" definetly threw down on this classic. One of my all time fave Funkadelic relics ("Standing On The Verge"). My old band used to play "Alice" and I always made sure I played Eddie's solo note for note. "Alice" and "Super Stupid" are heavy metal classics right up there with "Sweet Leaf" (Sabbath) and "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (Jimi)...Great thread Brutha B. Can't wait to read the other repsonses!

Thanx Spyz! I'm DEFINATELY witcha when it comes to "Sweet Leaf". And as far as folks postin', u know how some folks are way too cool to post, but that's alright. We KNOW the truth and definately know what time it is.
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/06 3:42pm

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Amen Brutha!! wink
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/06 3:52pm

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jacktheimprovident said:

Yes, these are definitely the songs to use to disabuse people of the notion that black people don't do hard rock. Super Stupid and Alice in My fantasies are metal pure and simple, but much funkier than any metal released in the decade (with the possible exception of some songs by Deep Purple), or ever for that matter. Eddie Hazel gave birth to funk-metal while the red hot chili peppers were still a glint in the milkman's eye (and I suppose that milkman was G.C. himself anyway).

Yep.
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Reply #7 posted 05/02/06 12:39am

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Man,...listen. Ya'll know that my love for Parliament/Funkadelic runs deep and this is ONE of the reasons why. These 3 songs just capture an element of these cats that truly speaks to my soul. Even when I was 8 years old, I UNDERSTOOD this....sound. It makes a cat see things that I may can't put into words. To say these songs have had a HUGE influence on me as a musician is a gross understatement. Man,...I just love this "side" from these cats. I adore it. Saying "Black Rock" is like saying grass is green, but this is the epitome of "Black Rock". If anyone ever ask u what is "Black Rock", PLEASE play them this and turn it up as loud as your speakers will allow! Who else loves these songs?


HIP!!! cool

But you gotta add:

Hit It & Quit It

I Got A Thang, You Got A Thang, Airbody's Got A Thang

But 'Stoopid' is my favorite... biggrin


Have you ever heard 'Fantasies'live from this cd??



Raw funk at its best!! smile
[Edited 5/2/06 0:40am]
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Reply #8 posted 05/02/06 1:57am

JesseDezz

What can I say about these four classics (I'm including Standing on the Verge of Gettin' It On) that u fams haven't said? It's ashamed that more people don't know about the funk rock that was goin' down the same time Ozzy and the boys were gettin' it together. Growing up, I was more familiar with stuff like "Flashlight" and "Knee Deep", though my older cousins had those cool-ass parliament/funkadelic/Bootsy, et.al, albums with the cool covers and "p-funk speak". Radio didn't play much Funkadelic and I actually didn't get into Eddie and "Maggot Brain" until after I started playin' guitar myself. But I made up for lost time lol

On the subject of funk rock, what do you cats think of Stevie Salas? When he came out with his Stevie Salas Colorcode project, Guitar World did a story with him and talked about his George Clinton connection and how George got him started with producing 'n stuff. So, I guess he's a p-funker by association.
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Reply #9 posted 05/02/06 7:17am

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I love Red Hot Momma and Super Stupid but Alice In My Fantasies does it for me. Its completely fucked up in the best possible way. It sounds all over the place but at the same time it's so darn tight..and when that solo comes in. I think it's one of the best rock songs ever.
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Reply #10 posted 05/02/06 7:20am

IAintTheOne

man i gotta cop that... and Rocky mountain Breakdown
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Reply #11 posted 05/02/06 7:22am

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Man what can I say about this that hasn't been said. I'll quote Flea who once said something like "Funkadelic was heavier and deeper than anything Black Sabbath ever did" or something like that. It's not discounting Black Sabbath or anything cause they are legends in their own right but Funkadelic was really on a whole other level on so many different levels.
On topic, these cuts are among my top Funkadelic Songs. I would add Funky Dollar Bill, and some instrumental stuff off of Osmium/First Thangs as well.
BTW, just got Free Your Mind... remasterd version and If ever a CD needed remastered that was it. It sounds incredible. Next on the remastered list is Standing in the Verge...Already have the old version of course. Does anyone know if thev've fixed I'll Stay? Original pressings of remastered CDs had an edited version of I'll Stay instead of 7 minute version which is why I've held back from getting it.
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Reply #12 posted 05/02/06 7:32am

funkpill

IAintTheOne said:

man i gotta cop that... and Rocky mountain Breakdown



TALK!!!!headbang


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Reply #13 posted 05/02/06 7:45am

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Man there's a record/CD show coming to my area this Sunday and I'm hopin' and prayin' they have some P-Funk stuff. Preferably DVD stuff. I'm jonesin for some good/live P-Funk from the 70's.
Hey Funkpill, high!
You have been providing some great clips form youtube thanks again!
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Reply #14 posted 05/02/06 7:46am

IAintTheOne

funkpill said:

IAintTheOne said:

man i gotta cop that... and Rocky mountain Breakdown



TALK!!!!headbang


biggrin



yeah some shit i gotta cop man,caint seem to find it here. i gotta hit da swap meet
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Reply #15 posted 05/02/06 9:26am

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IAintTheOne said:

funkpill said:




TALK!!!!headbang


biggrin



yeah some shit i gotta cop man,caint seem to find it here. i gotta hit da swap meet



Actually, the boot's called Rocky Mountain Shakedown, but yeah, it's a must-have....




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Reply #16 posted 05/02/06 9:30am

funkpill

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IAintTheOne said:




yeah some shit i gotta cop man,caint seem to find it here. i gotta hit da swap meet



Actually, the boot's called Rocky Mountain Shakedown, but yeah, it's a must-have....




...


Sure is..doh!
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Reply #17 posted 05/02/06 11:30am

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JesseDezz said:

What can I say about these four classics (I'm including Standing on the Verge of Gettin' It On) that u fams haven't said? It's ashamed that more people don't know about the funk rock that was goin' down the same time Ozzy and the boys were gettin' it together. Growing up, I was more familiar with stuff like "Flashlight" and "Knee Deep", though my older cousins had those cool-ass parliament/funkadelic/Bootsy, et.al, albums with the cool covers and "p-funk speak". Radio didn't play much Funkadelic and I actually didn't get into Eddie and "Maggot Brain" until after I started playin' guitar myself. But I made up for lost time lol

On the subject of funk rock, what do you cats think of Stevie Salas? When he came out with his Stevie Salas Colorcode project, Guitar World did a story with him and talked about his George Clinton connection and how George got him started with producing 'n stuff. So, I guess he's a p-funker by association.

I too only heard Flashlight and AquaBoogie on the radio, BUT I was blessed with an older cousin and all of his friends who were way into their teens when I was 7 and 8 years old. I got hip to THIS sound through them. That opened the doors to my own discovery of all of the other stuff that was out there be it KISS, Sabbath, Zepp, Queen, etc. I got into all of those bands at the magical age of 8. I saw Stevie Salas at The Viper Room in a power trio situation and it was cool.
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Reply #18 posted 05/02/06 11:33am

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Man what can I say about this that hasn't been said. I'll quote Flea who once said something like "Funkadelic was heavier and deeper than anything Black Sabbath ever did" or something like that. It's not discounting Black Sabbath or anything cause they are legends in their own right but Funkadelic was really on a whole other level on so many different levels.
On topic, these cuts are among my top Funkadelic Songs. I would add Funky Dollar Bill, and some instrumental stuff off of Osmium/First Thangs as well.
BTW, just got Free Your Mind... remasterd version and If ever a CD needed remastered that was it. It sounds incredible. Next on the remastered list is Standing in the Verge...Already have the old version of course. Does anyone know if thev've fixed I'll Stay? Original pressings of remastered CDs had an edited version of I'll Stay instead of 7 minute version which is why I've held back from getting it.

I can dig it to the 9th degree. I only mentioned 3 cuts in my thread that was the epitome of what I was speaking on. I could have called off other cuts like the title track "Free Your Mind" which to me, is DEEPER than the three songs I listed, but I knew ya'll would know where I was coming from, which is all I wanted anyway.
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Reply #19 posted 05/02/06 12:36pm

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blackguitaristz said:

Bfunkthe1 said:

Man what can I say about this that hasn't been said. I'll quote Flea who once said something like "Funkadelic was heavier and deeper than anything Black Sabbath ever did" or something like that. It's not discounting Black Sabbath or anything cause they are legends in their own right but Funkadelic was really on a whole other level on so many different levels.
On topic, these cuts are among my top Funkadelic Songs. I would add Funky Dollar Bill, and some instrumental stuff off of Osmium/First Thangs as well.
BTW, just got Free Your Mind... remasterd version and If ever a CD needed remastered that was it. It sounds incredible. Next on the remastered list is Standing in the Verge...Already have the old version of course. Does anyone know if thev've fixed I'll Stay? Original pressings of remastered CDs had an edited version of I'll Stay instead of 7 minute version which is why I've held back from getting it.

I can dig it to the 9th degree. I only mentioned 3 cuts in my thread that was the epitome of what I was speaking on. I could have called off other cuts like the title track "Free Your Mind" which to me, is DEEPER than the three songs I listed, but I knew ya'll would know where I was coming from, which is all I wanted anyway.


Agreed. Like I said I just got Free Your Mind...remastered version and damn it's the best I've ever heard it. The song Free Your Mind is an acid trip without the acid!
Your right though, we can be talking Funkadelic non-stop if we wanted to.
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Reply #20 posted 05/03/06 5:53am

IAintTheOne

paligap said:

IAintTheOne said:




yeah some shit i gotta cop man,caint seem to find it here. i gotta hit da swap meet



Actually, the boot's called Rocky Mountain Shakedown, but yeah, it's a must-have....




...



you know you right. im entitled to a fuck up or 2 smile
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Reply #21 posted 05/03/06 6:57am

calldapplwonde
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Just a coupple of months more and I'm gonna get all those Parliament/Funkadelic albums. nod
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Reply #22 posted 05/03/06 7:04am

IAintTheOne

Bfunkthe1 said:

blackguitaristz said:


I can dig it to the 9th degree. I only mentioned 3 cuts in my thread that was the epitome of what I was speaking on. I could have called off other cuts like the title track "Free Your Mind" which to me, is DEEPER than the three songs I listed, but I knew ya'll would know where I was coming from, which is all I wanted anyway.


Agreed. Like I said I just got Free Your Mind...remastered version and damn it's the best I've ever heard it. The song Free Your Mind is an acid trip without the acid!
Your right though, we can be talking Funkadelic non-stop if we wanted to.



maaaaan u ever heard the albun on Acid?.... Holy shit what a mindfuck
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Reply #23 posted 05/03/06 9:34am

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IAintTheOne said:

Bfunkthe1 said:



Agreed. Like I said I just got Free Your Mind...remastered version and damn it's the best I've ever heard it. The song Free Your Mind is an acid trip without the acid!
Your right though, we can be talking Funkadelic non-stop if we wanted to.



maaaaan u ever heard the albun on Acid?.... Holy shit what a mindfuck

No. And I can't even imagine.
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Reply #24 posted 05/03/06 9:36am

IAintTheOne

Bfunkthe1 said:

IAintTheOne said:




maaaaan u ever heard the albun on Acid?.... Holy shit what a mindfuck

No. And I can't even imagine.
wink



lmao... well its spooky as fuck smile
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Reply #25 posted 05/03/06 2:08pm

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Bfunkthe1 said:

blackguitaristz said:


I can dig it to the 9th degree. I only mentioned 3 cuts in my thread that was the epitome of what I was speaking on. I could have called off other cuts like the title track "Free Your Mind" which to me, is DEEPER than the three songs I listed, but I knew ya'll would know where I was coming from, which is all I wanted anyway.


Agreed. Like I said I just got Free Your Mind...remastered version and damn it's the best I've ever heard it. The song Free Your Mind is an acid trip without the acid!
Your right though, we can be talking Funkadelic non-stop if we wanted to.

I see you're a fan of "Fantasy Is Reality". I ran a thread about this song a long ass time ago. This is the beauty that lies in P/Funk. NOBODY, including the beloved saving the world E,W & F could have pulled something like that off. These cats and George listened to everything and absorbed it. Fantasy is Reality is straight gospel but with that fucking beautiful guitar lead going through out the song, it takes it somewhere else. It ...transcends. I can go on a year breaking shit down, so I'll shut up.
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When some of the brothers finally decided it was OK to listen to this stuff (out in the open),...



...it was funny to watch them go from this.


To variations of this...



...almost overnight.


Even though Jimi/Sly/Arthur had thrown off the dress code chains long ago. smile


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Reply #27 posted 05/04/06 12:00am

funkpill

blackguitaristz said:

Bfunkthe1 said:



Agreed. Like I said I just got Free Your Mind...remastered version and damn it's the best I've ever heard it. The song Free Your Mind is an acid trip without the acid!
Your right though, we can be talking Funkadelic non-stop if we wanted to.

I see you're a fan of "Fantasy Is Reality". I ran a thread about this song a long ass time ago. This is the beauty that lies in P/Funk. NOBODY, including the beloved saving the world E,W & F could have pulled something like that off. These cats and George listened to everything and absorbed it. Fantasy is Reality is straight gospel but with that fucking beautiful guitar lead going through out the song, it takes it somewhere else. It ...transcends. I can go on a year breaking shit down, so I'll shut up.




Have you ever heard Funkadelic's rendition of 'Open Our Eyes'????hmmm

It's pretty much the same way you described 'Fantasy'.


Eddie goes waaaaay out on this tune!!! biggrin


And this one was before EWF did their beautiful version of it...
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theAudience said:

When some of the brothers finally decided it was OK to listen to this stuff (out in the open),...



...it was funny to watch them go from this.


To variations of this...



...almost overnight.


Even though Jimi/Sly/Arthur had thrown off the dress code chains long ago. smile


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

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As far as The Temps go, u can thank Norman Whitfield for that. He used to do the episode from What's Happenin' with Rerun and the Doobie's and the tape recorder. He would staight tape Funkadelic's live show, and go DIRECTLY to the studio and cut it for The Temps.
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Love all three. In that order too. nod
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