Shapeshifter said:

you will have to

your on the end of the list


http://www.prince.org/msg/100/181544

Shapeshifter said:

well that explains it

i didnt get broken arrow

shausler said:

As in you didn't buy it or didn't get it - as in like it/understand it/appreciate it? It was an album in three parts - the long loud epics at the beginning were the Briggs tributes, while the others (including This Town and Music Arcade - 'cmon you can't not like THOSE) were the flipside - shorter, darker and quieter (oh, and Interstate was meant to be included here, but Neil, true to form only released it on the VINYL version of the album) , and the final seemingly throwaway cover version was taped very shortly after Briggs died, at the Princeton Landing club shows.
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well

i just got through listening to the full album 4 times

and to me . . .


its the most KICK ASS stuff neils done in a while

to me


im grateful for it

my shape shiftin bud doesnt agree but

hey

thats what makes this here org so unique



god bless

I think New Sensations is the best album Lou ever recorded, and I think the title track is the greatest song of his career.









eminently false, that one, I'd say, though it depends on what your definition of bad is; I don't think he's ever recorded anything truly atrocious on the level of "Self-Portrait" or something like that. (and we'll have to leave MMM out of the conversation since terms like good or bad don't really apply to that one).


Bad Lou:

Mistrial
Sally Can't Dance

I kinda want to put Berlin here as well, but I do think that record works as long as you don't take it seriously and instead view it as a document of how far a man's head can disappear up his own bum.
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shausler said:

As you - quite flatteringly, I must say - have revisited Broken Arrow after our recent exchanges, so I've given LWW another go. And I'm really sorry but it's actually WORSE than before, making Emmerdale and Harvest Fart sound like works of dark and twisted lyrical genius. And trust me, Hausler, for the sake of our reciprocal bonhomie - and, frankly, being able to listen to another Neil Young album again - I really DID try and salvage some grain of likeability to hold on to, but I really can't. LWW is utterly utterly utterly utterly dire. Sorry.

You know, Neil objected to Gulf War 1 too. What did he do? He played a ferocious, apocalyptic earth-searing version of Blowing in The Wind, which summed up his entire viewpoint in a very succinct and powerful act of musical catharsis. LWW fails on every single level. And I bet you won't even be listening to it or even defending it in a year's time.

Now I'm going to listen to Ornette Coleman and Lou Reed. Thanks, this was fun. I hope we can find something to agree on next time.
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Shapeshifter said:

hoo faa

whatever billy buzz kill!






does anyone know when this will be down load able??

one mans garbage be

another mans treasure

your ears are hurtin while

mine are filled with pleasure

im listenin now i

do it on my lesure

my own taste buds be my

only only

measure

shausler said:

Yes, yes, yes. Aka: Shapeshifter's shit is Shausler's manure. Dig in buddy and get spreading.

Now, do you want to have the last word here?

By the way, off topic, what do you think of Olivia Newton John's "Physical" - especially the exortation to "get into animal" at the end? I think it's the first pop song about bestiality to make the Top 10, don't you?

Shapeshifter said:

your hopelessly cynical and nasty

but i respect your opinion none the less

i dont know icenines

why dont you tell me

shausler said:

Get thee behind me, Marilyn, and watch where you put that tail.

I'm not and never was IceNine, or Ice9, but I know who you mean. Man, I must REALLY piss you off!
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Shapeshifter said:

so defensive

i never said that you were icenine

i said that i dont know icenine


i never really new icenine


silly lad

New Sensations Lou's best album?!!? - if I didn't already know, I'd know you were a Fall fan. Obtuse, left of centre choice. MES would be proud.

I agree that Mistrial is weak, but it as Tell It To Your Heart and Moma's Got A Lover , which salvage the album. Sally Can't Dance isn't at all bad - the title track's superb,as is Billy.

You need to listen to Berlin again. It's a masterpiece, I think, one of those long nioght of the soul albums that come along once in every great artist's career.

http://www.hyfntrak.com/neilyoung2/AFF23082/


Crank it up....

Trickology said:

Neil is awesome!

How did this thread get so...odd?

Shapeshifter said:

Not too obtuse, I don't think. Certainly no question that it's not viewed as one of his major works, but I do think that;
- it's his most consistently tuneful record,
- his lyrics were thoughtful and adult in a way they'd never been before, and
- he never had a better band than the one here. Yes, even better than the r n' r animal bunch, I'd say.

I think this was a big breakthrough record for him - the one that proved he was going to still be able to make compelling records as he hit middle-age.




They're not worthless albums, and you hit the mark in picking their redeeming songs. I guess that's why I included the qualifier in my post - I don't think Lou's made a record that could be considered total rubbish, but he's spawned some really iffy ones.



Ah, I don't hate Berlin - should have explained that one a bit. I think it's a great time capsule of 70s-era art-rock excess - from the children screaming on 'the kids' to the 'over the rainbow' musical quote on 'sad song', it's a brilliant work of bombast. I absolutely love it - I just can't bring myself to take it too seriously as a depressing, dark record the way I view Plastic Ono Band or Tonight's the Night. Does that make any sense?
[Edited 4/30/06 20:09pm]

New York was quite a surprise

Shapeshifter said:

yes

i have broken arrow on vinly just for the interstate

though i had it on various boot cantations

i needed it in the purest of forms

thanks to you,

im going to dig out arrow

i think it was digipack if memory serves


give it a second listen

anyone know when the download begins???