look my last word dopplanger

if you dont dig the music fine

got it

why feel the endless need to put down in the most base of terms the feelings and sensibilities of those who are gleeming appreciation from the war disc


you are over nasty about your judgement you got

issues

go grab some

tiss ues

Shapeshifter said:

look

all im sayin is

isnt there a gentle way to say you dont like something

whithout making those who do feel like shit?


is all im askin

shausler said:

The album's crap, in my opinion, and I'm voicing my opinion. Just like you're voicing yours. No need to take it personally. It's only music, John. Our brain lobes get massaged in different ways and my serotonin glands don't secrete to Neil's latest. They clog up and my bile glands go into overdrive instead. My sour is your sweet. And vice versa.

Guess you've heard Lou Reed's Take No Prisoners too.

Shapeshifter said:

no but his "new sensations" has gone through many pressings for me

shausler said:

Ah, c'mon man, don't take it that way, really. I don't want you to feel bad or not enjoy the album. On the contrary - I want you to like it and come back at me with why you do. Hell, I might even .... No, that would be pushing it.

Look, I fucking hated Prairie Wind, but LWW is in a whole new universe of crap. Sorry. And I hate it that someone of Neil Young's prodigious talent is releasing a desperate, attention seeking piece of crap like this when he's not only capable of much better, BUT he's sitting on a pile of quite glorious unreleased songs.

Look, go listen to something like Interstate, or hunt down Ordinary People, or the uncut Crime In The City, or any of those Bluenotes bootlegs from 1988 and tell me I'm not even a little right.
[Edited 4/29/06 14:03pm]

Shapeshifter said:

i dig ordinary people

shausler said:

Wonderful album that, and very underrated. Turn To Me is a classic (Your dad is freebasin' and your mom;s turinin' tricks), and My Red Joystick is hilarious.

And, true or false - there's no such thing as a bad Lou Reed album.

out of my mind

and i just cant take it any more






all i hear are screams

from outside the limosine

that are driving me . . .

out of my mind

I think New Sensations is the best album Lou ever recorded, and I think the title track is the greatest song of his career.









eminently false, that one, I'd say, though it depends on what your definition of bad is; I don't think he's ever recorded anything truly atrocious on the level of "Self-Portrait" or something like that. (and we'll have to leave MMM out of the conversation since terms like good or bad don't really apply to that one).


Bad Lou:

Mistrial
Sally Can't Dance

I kinda want to put Berlin here as well, but I do think that record works as long as you don't take it seriously and look at it as a document of how far a man's head can disappear up his own bum.

shausler said:

Ok, we're in business. You know your Neil. If you like the latest one, fine, but I think Boy George wrote more trenchant anti-war lyrics than are contained in LWWAAAARRRRGGGHHH!

THE WAR SONG
Culture Club

War war is stupid
And people are stupid
And love means nothing
In some strange quarters

War war is stupid
And people are stupid
And I heard them banging
On hearts and fingers

People fill the world
With narrow confidence
Like a child at birth
A man with no defence
What's mine's my own
I won't give it to you
No matter what you say
No matter what you do

Now we're fighting
In our hearts
Fighting in the street
Won't somebody help me?
(repeat chorus)

Man is far behind
In the search for something new
Like as Philistine
We're burning witches too
This world of fate
Must be designed for you
It matters what you say
It matters what you do

Now we're fighting
In our hearts
Fighting in the street
Won't somebody help me?

(chorus)

After the bird has flown
He walked ten thousand
Miles back home

You can't do that to me,no
You can't do that to me
[Edited 4/29/06 14:17pm]

he was makin flippy floppy

tryin to do his best

bad fog of lonliness

put a cloud on my

single mindeness

shausler said:

Floppy most definitely.

shausler said:

The Neil I love sang this:

"I got faith in the regular kind,
hard workin' people,
Patch-of-ground people."

Shapeshifter said:

you reek of self lothing but

whatever



im just happy to have have such a fine new disc so close to the release of his last fine prairie wind disc


your words mean nothing to me

your uneding put down comments however

to me

are severely distateful and

demonstrate a low class nature upon your


be half

but i will still write a song for you

it will be a good one

shausler said:

One of us is taking all of this very seriously and very personally .... and it ain't me.


Self loathing, me? No, I'm a narcissist.

Shapeshifter said:

you reek of self lothing but

whatever



im just happy to have have such a fine new disc so close to the release of his last fine prairie wind disc


your words mean nothing to me

your uneding put down comments however

to me

are severely distateful and

demonstrate a low class nature upon your


be half

shausler said:

Gee, I can't wait.

Shapeshifter said:

its me

i will be man enough to admit it

the last neil album that i didnt like was

are you passionate

that sucked

shausler said:

Hey, I liked a little of it, but it was weak. Mr Disappointment was great though, heading into Bandit country. The last album of his I loved was Broken Arrow - a real masterpiece that and a fitting eulogy to the late and very great David Briggs.