YEAH WHAT A FUCKING GREAT TIME. IT WAS A DIFFERENT WORLD. SHIT WHO NEEDED CELL PHONES AND INTERNET ? | |
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pm1 said: YEAH WHAT A FUCKING GREAT TIME. IT WAS A DIFFERENT WORLD. SHIT WHO NEEDED CELL PHONES AND INTERNET ?
The Scandinavian economy? | |
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The Bee Gees continued to make some great music after the 70s, only radio refused to play it. Here are some examples to check out
- You Win Again - Toys - Decadance - One - Alone - Bodyguard - Still Waters Run Deep - The whole "Size isn't Everything" album (engineer Femi Jiya) - The whole "This is Where I Came In" album Alan | |
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Novabreaker said: pm1 said: YEAH WHAT A FUCKING GREAT TIME. IT WAS A DIFFERENT WORLD. SHIT WHO NEEDED CELL PHONES AND INTERNET ?
The Scandinavian economy? the scandanvians gave us cell phones!!! | |
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The funny thing about disco music in the 70's
it seems that the people who really enjoyed it were always on something. Every time they say, "when I heard this song..." It was associated with this drug or that drug, "was being passed around" or "was easily accesable". Probably doesn't mean a damn thing but it still a litle interesting. | |
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DavidEye said: I've never understood why so many people were saying "Disco sucks" in the late 70s.Like any other musical form,there were good songs and bad songs,but I was a HUGE fan of that music.Disco music was fun,energetic and highly intoxicating...lol...have a few Long Island Iced teas and you could get lost in this music:)
What are yor thoughts on this music? What are your favorite Disco songs? And why did so many people hate Disco? It did not suck. It was great music. Much of it still exists today and is heavily sampled and copied in techno and dance music. THe basis behind the hate for disco was the racist fears of the white male establishment. White boys loved hard rock. Less rythmic and no dancing required. All of sudden, they had to learn to disc dance to get the chicks and be cool (Sat Night Fever set them back a bit because the average white boy cant dance like that). Most of the stars of disco were people of color, women (Donna Summer, Gloria Gayner, etc), and gay: again, all groups that threaten white males that are racist and/or sexist. Hip hop get a similar backlash but is redemmed by the immoral commercialism of the music business. White boys hate rappers as they are the ultimate threat: rough, big mouthed, rich, ghetto black guys that will nail their little white chicks. However, these rappers are bankable and industry white boys take these uneducated products of the ghetto all the way to the bank. They will even go so far as to assimilate some traits of these ghetto monkeys in order to be cool and appeal to the white chicks that want the Snoop Dogg types. So alas, money and sex, the inevitable axis upon which this lost planet turns, determine the basis for hatred and ignorance as they play themselves out in modern society. | |
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What about Chic and Sister Sledges???
I just loved "He's the greatest dancer", "we are family" of course, and ALL Chic groovy songs! Oh, and don't forget there was a beautiful dance tune in 1987 by a not-that-famous artist (at least here in Italy) called "I wanna be your lover". I simply couldn't stand still when the DJ played that record!!! "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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Looking at the state of popular music THESE DAYS, I don't think we have anything to be ashamed of re: 70's disco. Hell, that includes the 80's, too.
rightbluecheek said: What about Chic and Sister Sledges???
I just loved "He's the greatest dancer", "we are family" of course, and ALL Chic groovy songs! Oh, and don't forget there was a beautiful dance tune in 1987 by a not-that-famous artist (at least here in Italy) called "I wanna be your lover". I simply couldn't stand still when the DJ played that record!!! | |
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Actually a lot of Disco did suck. Particularly in the early years. Look at the list Davideye drew up of good disco songs - the majority of them are from 1978, 1979, 1980 - the late 70's. Disco popped up in the early 70's - around 1973. The early stuff was very dull. Star Wars put to disco. Very Love Boat. Disco Medleys were popular. Very polyester. While it might sound great now on compilations of all the Disco Years it did suck at first. When The Bee Gees went disco that was a huge leap forward. Diana Ross's Love Hangover & Donna Summer's music helped it gain popularity. When the Rolling Stones & Paul McCartney & Rod Stewart released disco songs it was obvious disco was accepted into the mainstream. But in its eary stages it sounded very mechanical & lacked the sense of fun & party it gained later.
And at the time Disco first emerged the California Mellow/Folksinger music was very popular & they didn't exactly blend togerther well. | |
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i work as a DJ at a retro styled club part time ... so you can believe i'm sick to death of "stayin' alive", "dancing queen", "i will survive" etc... (but to be fair, they still DO pack the dance floor, no doubt about that).
i like spinning the hardcore disco/funk from back in the day more than anything else. the stuff you don't hear anymore... like "holy ghost" by the bar-kays, "doo wah ditty" by zapp, "son of a gun" by the silver convention, and ANYTHING off of the FIRST village people album. no one seems to remember anything by them besides the obvious hits, y'know? they actually did have some pretty cool stuff that wasn't "hit" material. just my $.02. --gm-- i....feel.... cold as a razorblade, tight as a tourniquet, dry as a funeral drum...... | |
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BLACKMF said: DavidEye said: I've never understood why so many people were saying "Disco sucks" in the late 70s.Like any other musical form,there were good songs and bad songs,but I was a HUGE fan of that music.Disco music was fun,energetic and highly intoxicating...lol...have a few Long Island Iced teas and you could get lost in this music:)
What are yor thoughts on this music? What are your favorite Disco songs? And why did so many people hate Disco? It did not suck. It was great music. Much of it still exists today and is heavily sampled and copied in techno and dance music. THe basis behind the hate for disco was the racist fears of the white male establishment. White boys loved hard rock. Less rythmic and no dancing required. All of sudden, they had to learn to disc dance to get the chicks and be cool (Sat Night Fever set them back a bit because the average white boy cant dance like that). Most of the stars of disco were people of color, women (Donna Summer, Gloria Gayner, etc), and gay: again, all groups that threaten white males that are racist and/or sexist. Hip hop get a similar backlash but is redemmed by the immoral commercialism of the music business. White boys hate rappers as they are the ultimate threat: rough, big mouthed, rich, ghetto black guys that will nail their little white chicks. However, these rappers are bankable and industry white boys take these uneducated products of the ghetto all the way to the bank. They will even go so far as to assimilate some traits of these ghetto monkeys in order to be cool and appeal to the white chicks that want the Snoop Dogg types. So alas, money and sex, the inevitable axis upon which this lost planet turns, determine the basis for hatred and ignorance as they play themselves out in modern society. What sucked was the above-ground Giorgio Moroder Euro-disco sound. It had that fake salsa-type beat that was hyped up with tons of speeded up string arrangements. That crap was so mechanical and unfunky, but it kept a solid beat where the funkless could dance and not miss a step. Music was being manufactured , en masse, like most of the Donna Summer stuff except BAD GIRLS, Mico, Silver Convention, Vicki Sue Robinson, Gloria Gaynor, Sylvester (well some of his stuff was tight!). Chic and Sister Sledge were somewhat redeemable because of Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards. Thank goodness for Funkadelic for seeing me thru that morass of CUT funk, but thanks to Prince even more for making that sound viable after it had gotten really stale. The other dog was that eunuch falsetto singing of Bee Gees was like fingernials on chalkboard. One falsetto in a group is enough, but 3 hi-pitched male-bitches was unnerving! I do acknowledge there was a lot of racial bashing by redneck Ted Nugent-type fans. I got into a real knock-down dragout fight when a "good ol' boy" said funk was "nigger and fag" music. :LOL: I just wasn't sure which insult he was calling me, so I had to put "the snatch" on his ass. Inglewood PD coulda taken some notes from me on that one. Throwin a mutha fukka up against a solid wall saves you from busting up your knuckles on somebody's jaw. BTW: I love EWF to no end, but I have always trashed "Boogie Wonderland" as an overt piece of disco-trash. GAWD! I hate that song! test | |
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ZaZa said: Actually a lot of Disco did suck. Particularly in the early years. Look at the list Davideye drew up of good disco songs - the majority of them are from 1978, 1979, 1980 - the late 70's. Disco popped up in the early 70's - around 1973. The early stuff was very dull. Star Wars put to disco. Very Love Boat. Disco Medleys were popular. Very polyester. While it might sound great now on compilations of all the Disco Years it did suck at first. When The Bee Gees went disco that was a huge leap forward. Diana Ross's Love Hangover & Donna Summer's music helped it gain popularity. When the Rolling Stones & Paul McCartney & Rod Stewart released disco songs it was obvious disco was accepted into the mainstream. But in its eary stages it sounded very mechanical & lacked the sense of fun & party it gained later.
And at the time Disco first emerged the California Mellow/Folksinger music was very popular & they didn't exactly blend togerther well. "Love Hangover", "Miss You" and "Silly Love Songs" all had pretty tight basslines so they were pretty cool. "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?" sucked because of the Stewart's cheekiness and that dreadful arp string synth. GAWD! I hear that crap now! test | |
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What sucked was the above-ground Giorgio Moroder Euro-disco sound.
What about I FEEL LOVE from Donna summer...thats was produced by Giorgio Moroder. Thats a classis track, specialy the 12 inch. Very inspiring song...It was not all bad what Giorgio Moroder did...But i agree , he made a lot of shit 2. free ur mind | |
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Janeau said: What sucked was the above-ground Giorgio Moroder Euro-disco sound.
What about I FEEL LOVE from Donna summer...thats was produced by Giorgio Moroder. Thats a classis track, specialy the 12 inch. Very inspiring song...It was not all bad what Giorgio Moroder did...But i agree , he made a lot of shit 2. Sometimes the first turd don't stink as much. test | |
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PFunkjazz said: BLACKMF said: DavidEye said: I've never understood why so many people were saying "Disco sucks" in the late 70s.Like any other musical form,there were good songs and bad songs,but I was a HUGE fan of that music.Disco music was fun,energetic and highly intoxicating...lol...have a few Long Island Iced teas and you could get lost in this music:)
What are yor thoughts on this music? What are your favorite Disco songs? And why did so many people hate Disco? It did not suck. It was great music. Much of it still exists today and is heavily sampled and copied in techno and dance music. THe basis behind the hate for disco was the racist fears of the white male establishment. White boys loved hard rock. Less rythmic and no dancing required. All of sudden, they had to learn to disc dance to get the chicks and be cool (Sat Night Fever set them back a bit because the average white boy cant dance like that). Most of the stars of disco were people of color, women (Donna Summer, Gloria Gayner, etc), and gay: again, all groups that threaten white males that are racist and/or sexist. Hip hop get a similar backlash but is redemmed by the immoral commercialism of the music business. White boys hate rappers as they are the ultimate threat: rough, big mouthed, rich, ghetto black guys that will nail their little white chicks. However, these rappers are bankable and industry white boys take these uneducated products of the ghetto all the way to the bank. They will even go so far as to assimilate some traits of these ghetto monkeys in order to be cool and appeal to the white chicks that want the Snoop Dogg types. So alas, money and sex, the inevitable axis upon which this lost planet turns, determine the basis for hatred and ignorance as they play themselves out in modern society. What sucked was the above-ground Giorgio Moroder Euro-disco sound. It had that fake salsa-type beat that was hyped up with tons of speeded up string arrangements. That crap was so mechanical and unfunky, but it kept a solid beat where the funkless could dance and not miss a step. Music was being manufactured , en masse, like most of the Donna Summer stuff except BAD GIRLS, Mico, Silver Convention, Vicki Sue Robinson, Gloria Gaynor, Sylvester (well some of his stuff was tight!). Chic and Sister Sledge were somewhat redeemable because of Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards. Thank goodness for Funkadelic for seeing me thru that morass of CUT funk, but thanks to Prince even more for making that sound viable after it had gotten really stale. The other dog was that eunuch falsetto singing of Bee Gees was like fingernials on chalkboard. One falsetto in a group is enough, but 3 hi-pitched male-bitches was unnerving! I do acknowledge there was a lot of racial bashing by redneck Ted Nugent-type fans. I got into a real knock-down dragout fight when a "good ol' boy" said funk was "nigger and fag" music. :LOL: I just wasn't sure which insult he was calling me, so I had to put "the snatch" on his ass. Inglewood PD coulda taken some notes from me on that one. Throwin a mutha fukka up against a solid wall saves you from busting up your knuckles on somebody's jaw. BTW: I love EWF to no end, but I have always trashed "Boogie Wonderland" as an overt piece of disco-trash. GAWD! I hate that song! One falsetto in a group is enough, but 3 hi-pitched male-bitches was unnerving! LOL...yo bruh that was funny!!! | |
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DavidEye said: ***In 1976,singer Andrea True scored a huge Disco hit with the suggestive "More,More,More".In the song,she demands that her lover "get the cameras rolling,get the action going".She is referring to her previous career as a porn star!...lol...
I purchased an old old Rolling Stone at a used bookstore with her story as a major write up lol "Climb in my fur." | |
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I lived in Kansas City MO during the early to mid-70's & the music that was played on the radio was Allman Bros, ZZ Top, Kansas, Peter Frampton. Very mid-western rock & roll. If we wanted to hear disco we went into downtown KC to a gay bar.
Can you believe there was a time without Disco? Christ I remember trying find some music to dance to at a party & the best we could come up with was Paul Simon. PAUL SIMON. It didn't work. Or trying to dance to Bob Marley's Natty Dread. Yikes!!! | |
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There But For The Grace Of God ( Go I)-Machine and Sunset People by Donna are and always will be the shit. "Climb in my fur." | |
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The falsetto Mick used in "Emotional Rescue" was inspired by a new upcoming artist at the time called Prince.
As with all genres good disco was good while the uninspired clone takes on it were bad. | |
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ChimChimBadass said: pm1 said: nothing about disco sucked.
at the time though there was a backlash from middle america and as far as i can tell it was to do with the sexual freedom and drugs etc. that (for them) disco symbolised. also it was predominantly black music and a lot of white rock fans saw it as a threat to them and their culture (or lack of it)and hence the big stadium burnings of disco records. looking back though it was one of the most creative times in fashion and music. Yeah exactly, this "disco sucks" movement was nothing but racist & anti-gay. Disco was a sort of Funk, and it was great until it get so watered, and that even white rockers get into it Brass Construction was one of the best Funk/Pre-Disco band to me. mistermaxxx | |
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PFunkjazz said: ZaZa said: Actually a lot of Disco did suck. Particularly in the early years. Look at the list Davideye drew up of good disco songs - the majority of them are from 1978, 1979, 1980 - the late 70's. Disco popped up in the early 70's - around 1973. The early stuff was very dull. Star Wars put to disco. Very Love Boat. Disco Medleys were popular. Very polyester. While it might sound great now on compilations of all the Disco Years it did suck at first. When The Bee Gees went disco that was a huge leap forward. Diana Ross's Love Hangover & Donna Summer's music helped it gain popularity. When the Rolling Stones & Paul McCartney & Rod Stewart released disco songs it was obvious disco was accepted into the mainstream. But in its eary stages it sounded very mechanical & lacked the sense of fun & party it gained later.
And at the time Disco first emerged the California Mellow/Folksinger music was very popular & they didn't exactly blend togerther well. "Love Hangover", "Miss You" and "Silly Love Songs" all had pretty tight basslines so they were pretty cool. "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?" sucked because of the Stewart's cheekiness and that dreadful arp string synth. GAWD! I hear that crap now! mistermaxxx | |
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DavidEye said: CalhounSq said: DavidEye said: ***"Miss You"The Rolling Stones(1978)
I LOVE this song!!! I'd pay a LOT to hear the version P did live w/ Ron Wood in it's entirety... Hey, is the Stones' Emotional Rescue considered disco? Its tone smacks of disco IMO, but I'm not a music scholar like you! The song "Emotional Rescue" sounds alot like "Miss You".It's in the same vein,but I think most rock music experts would kill us for calling it "Disco"...lol... miss you is one of my personal favorites of all time. there is an extended "disco mix" that has an additional breakdown which really cranks. disco rules and the people who turned against it back in the day were out of their mind and a little bit confused i think. | |
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The european disco sucks (village people, boney m, cerrone...) at the exception, maybe , of Abba for "Dancing Queen" (love it) | |
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& let's not forget Blondie's "Heart of Glass", maybe too good to be classified as a Disco song (originally it was a reggae tune) | |
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GREAT THREAD!!!
I love disco music, my wife plays the shit all the time! We bought the Time-Life's Dance Party 1972-1981, great stuff on it. Check it out: 1972-1974 TSOP (The Sound of Philadelphia) - MFSB feat. The Three Degress Rock Your Baby - George McCrae The Love I Lost (Part 1) - Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes Pick Up the Pieces - AWB Fire - The Ohio Players Never Can Say Goodbye - Gloria Gaynor Hollywood Swingin - Kool and the Gang Dancing Machine -The Jackson 5 When Will I See You Again - The Three Degrees Love Train - The O'Jays Rock the Boat - The Hues Corp. Everlasting Love - Carl Carlton Never, Never Gonna Give Ya Up - Barry White Tell Me Something Good - Rufus Do It ('Til You're Satisfied) - B.T. Express Keep On Truckin' (Part 1) - Eddie Kendricks Doctor's Orders - Carol Douglas Love's Theme - Love Unlimited Orchestra 1975-1976 Play That Funky Music - Wild Cherry The Hustle - Van McCoy You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine - Lou Rawls You're the First, the Last, My Everything - Barry White Love Machine (Part 1) - The Miracles Shining Star - Earth, Wind & Fire December, 1963 (Oh, What a Night) - Frankie Valli & the 4 Seasons More, More, More (Pt.1) - Andrea True Connection Fly, Robin, Fly - Silver Convention Love Hangover - Diana Ross Get Down Tonight - KC and the Sunshine Band Boogie Fever - The Sylvers Rockin' Chair - Gwen McCrae Love Rollercoaster - The Ohio Players I Love Music (Part 1) - The O'Jays Shame, Shame, Shame - Shirley and Company Swearin' to God - Frankie Valli Brazil - The Ritchie Family 1976-1977 (Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty - KC and the Sunshine Band Right Back Where We Started From - Maxine Nightingale Disc Lady - Johnnie Taylor Don't Leave Me This Way - Thelma Houston I Just Want to Be Your Everything - Andy Gibb Star Wars Theme/Cantina Band - Meco Car Wash - Rose Royce Dazz - Brick You Sexy Thing - Hot Chocolate You Make Me Feel Like Dancing - Leo Sayer A Fifth of Beethoven - Walter Murphy and the Big Apple Band I Feel Love - Donna Summer Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel (Part 1) - Tavares Get Up and Boogie (That's Right) - Silver Convention Turn The Beat Around - Vickie Sue Robinson Hot Line - The Sylvers Brick House - Commodores Ain't Gonna Bump No More (With No Big Fat Woman) - Joe Tex 1978-1979 If I Can't Have You - Yvonne Elliman Macho Man - Village People Last Dance - Donna Summer Dance, Dance, Dance (Yowsah, Yowsah, Yowsah) - Chic Disco Nights (Rock-Freak) - GQ The Groove Line - Heatwave Shame - Evelyn "Champagne" King Dance With Me - Peter Brown Boogie Wonderland - Earth, Wind & Fire with The Emotions Knock on Wood - Ami Stewart Shake Your Groove Thing - Peaches & Herb Disco Inferno - The Trammps Boogie Oogie Oogie - A Taste Of Honey Ladie's Night - Kool and the Gang Use Ta Be My Girl - The O'Jays Get Off - Foxy Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now - McFadden and Whitehead Shadow Dancing - Andy Gibb 1979 Good Times - Chic Fire - The Pointer Sisters We Are Family - Sister Sledge You're Only Lonely - J.D. Souther I Want You to Want Me - Cheap Trick Too Much Heaven - The Bee Gees Don't Bring Me Down - Electric Light Orchestra Ring My Bell - Anita Ward Reunited - Peaches and Herb Bad Girls - Donna Summer Do Ya Think I'm Sexy? - Rod Stewart I Will Survive - Gloria Gaynor Rock 'n' Roll Fantasy - Bad Company Heart of Glass - Blondie Tragedy - The Bee Gees My Sharona - The Knack Promises - Eric Clapton What a Fool Believes - The Dobbie Brothers 1979-1981 Y.M.C.A. - Village People Hott Stuff - Donna Summer Celebration - Kool and the Gang Take Me Home - Cher Makin' It - David Naughton Upside Down - Diana Ross Never Knew Love Like This Before - Stephanie Mills Got to Be REal - Cheryl Lynn Let's Groove - Earth, Wind & Fire with The Emotions Physical - Olivia Newton-John Funkytown - Lipps, Inc. Fame - Irene Cara Super Freak (Part 1) - Rick James Dim All The Lights - Donna Summer Working My Way Back To You/Forgive Me, Girl - The Spinners He's the Greatest Dancer - Sister Slege Heaven Must Have Sent You - Bonnie Pointer Desire - Andy Gibb One thing about the 70's...fuck! They had some long song titles! I now have Carpol Tunnel Syndrome after typing this shit in2 the computer! Hope u injoy it...ugh. |
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Ah, ah, I'm just a love machine. And I won't work for nobody but you... This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Disco Stu says, "Disco's FOREVER!" | |
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How I see it:
R&B's main factions in the 70s were Funk and Disco. The "Disco Sucks" phenomenon was more of a racist backlash to a popular black form of music. Disco was also popular and closely identified with the gay clubs, so "Disco Sucks" also has homophobic undertones. Of course, from a music critic's point of view, Disco had certainly run its course by the time Saturday Night Fever had brought the genre to its highest mainstream potential, and the public was craving something new. (But it's not like dance music ever went away). Keep in mind alot of dance music never becomes a critic's darling, almost as a rule. It's just another bullshit cycle in popular music, like "when grunge killed metal". The songs that people have listed in this thread do not suck. | |
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CinisterCee said: How I see it:
R&B's main factions in the 70s were Funk and Disco. The "Disco Sucks" phenomenon was more of a racist backlash to a popular black form of music. Disco was also popular and closely identified with the gay clubs, so "Disco Sucks" also has homophobic undertones. Of course, from a music critic's point of view, Disco had certainly run its course by the time Saturday Night Fever had brought the genre to its highest mainstream potential, and the public was craving something new. (But it's not like dance music ever went away). Keep in mind alot of dance music never becomes a critic's darling, almost as a rule. It's just another bullshit cycle in popular music, like "when grunge killed metal". The songs that people have listed in this thread do not suck. Indeed. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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CinisterCee said: R&B's main factions in the 70s were Funk and Disco. The "Disco Sucks" phenomenon was more of a racist backlash to a popular black form of music. Disco was also popular and closely identified with the gay clubs, so "Disco Sucks" also has homophobic undertones. I completely agree. At the time, there were parallel, thriving popular music genres: "disco" and "hard rock." The "disco sucks" mantra was a redneck taunt with clear racist and homophobic connotations. Even for those of us who liked "disco music," few would cop to it using that label. For example, I was really into Earth, Wind & Fire, but I rejected the label "disco" for their music. I preferred terms like "R&B" and "funk." I think I was trying to distance myself from the weaker tunes that gained mass popularity and brought the whole genre down. ___ "When they tell me 2 walk a straight line, I put on crooked shoes" | |
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