Well, nothing compares to The Beatles 65-70. Just listen.

You get it or you don't. I don't "get" Dylan or Morrissey, but I know lots of people who claim they're legendary artists, and I've seen their influence in a lot of other artists who I actually DO like. So I don't slag 'em. I just don't happen to "get" what their whole appeal is.

I don't understand how some people can't "get" the Beatles, though god bless yez. They had so many varied sounds when they were together, from the mellow pop fluff of songs like "Michelle" and "If I Fell" to the edgier, thrustier stuff like "Helter Skelter" and lots of the stuff on "Let It Be", which, without the Spector strings, virtually sounds like dirty rooty blues rock. Their psychadelic-era music is colorful, fun, sometimes surreal and a bit scary...their early stuff is crowd-pleasing dumb pop music that, at the time, sounded fresh and rebellious...and their individual styles grew and fed the group's music as they matured.

It's just always felt to me like there's so much STUFF in The Beatles' albums. I can see how some might consider them overrated, but I just can't see how anyone could dismiss their work wholesale. There were just too many styles and sounds and directions happening.

just listen to "A Day In The Life" and tell me you don´t like it.

urbanfox3105 said:

I have and I don't.

Moonbeam said:

well, then clean out your ears and listen again

urbanfox3105 said:

I'm unswerving in my hatred of The Beatles.

Moonbeam said:

too bad..for you! hahaha

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Track List:

1 Love Me Do (Stereo)
2 Twist And Shout (Stereo)
3 Anna (Go To Him) (Stereo)
4 Chains (Stereo)
5 Boys (Stereo)
6 Ask Me Why (Stereo)
7 Please Please Me (Stereo)
8 P.S. I Love You (Stereo)
9 Baby It's You (Stereo)
10 A Taste Of Honey (Stereo)
11 Do You Want To Know A Secret (Stereo)
12 Love Me Do (Mono)
13 Twist And Shout (Mono)
14 Anna (Go To Him) (Mono)
15 Chains (Mono)
16 Boys (Mono)
17 Ask Me Why (Mono)
18 Please Please Me (Mono)
19 P.S. I Love You (Mono)
20 Baby It's You (Mono)
21 A Taste Of Honey (Mono)
22 Do You Want To Know A Secret (Mono)
23 Kansas City/Hey Hey Hey Hey (Stereo)
24 Eight Days A Week (Stereo)
25 You Like Me Too Much (Stereo)
26 Bad Boy (Stereo)
27 I Don't Want To Spoil The Party (Stereo)
28 Words Of Love (Stereo)
29 What You're Doing (Stereo)
30 Yes It Is (Stereo)
31 Dizzy Miss Lizzy (Stereo)
32 Tell Me What You See (Stereo)
33 Every Little Thing (Stereo)
34 Kansas City/Hey Hey Hey Hey (Mono)
35 Eight Days A Week (Mono)
36 You Like Me Too Much (Mono)
37 Bad Boy (Mono)
38 I Don't Want To Spoil The Party (Mono)
39 Words Of Love (Mono)
40 What You're Doing (Mono)
41 Yes It Is (Mono)
42 Dizzy Miss Lizzy (Mono)
43 Tell Me What You See (Mono)
44 Every Little Thing (Mono)
45 Help (Stereo)
46 The Night Before (Stereo)
47 From Me To You Fantasy (Instrumental)
48 (Stereo)
49 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
50 (Stereo)
51 I Need You (Stereo)
52 In The Tyrol (Instrumental) (Stereo)
53 Another Girl (Stereo)
54 Another Hard Day's Night (Instrumental)
55 (Stereo)
56 Ticket To Ride (Stereo)
57 The Bitter End/You Can't Do That
58 (Instrumental) (Stereo)
59 You're Going To Lose That Girl (Stereo)
60 The Chase (Instrumental) (Stereo)
61 Help (Mono)
62 The Night Before (Mono)
63 From Me To You Fantasy (Instrumental)
64 (Mono)
65 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
66 (Mono)
67 I Need You (Mono)
68 In The Tyrol (Instrumental) (Mono)
69 Another Girl (Mono)
70 Another Hard Day's Night (Instrumental)
71 (Mono)
72 Ticket To Ride (Mono)
73 The Bitter End/You Can't Do That (Mono)
74 (Instrumental) (Stereo) (Mono)
75 You're Going To Lose That Girl (Mono)
76 The Chase (Instrumental) (Mono)
77 I've Just Seen A Face (Stereo)
78 Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
79 (Stereo)
80 You Won't See Me (Stereo)
81 Think For Yourself (Stereo)
82 The Word (Stereo)
83 Michelle (Stereo)
84 It's Only Love (Stereo)
85 Girl (Stereo)
86 I'm Looking Through You (Stereo)
87 In My Life (Stereo)
88 Wait (Stereo)
89 Run For Your Life (Stereo)
90 I've Just Seen A Face (Mono)
91 Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
92 (Mono)
93 You Won't See Me (Mono)
94 Think For Yourself (Mono)
95 The Word (Mono)
96 Michelle (Mono)
97 It's Only Love (Mono)
98 Girl (Mono)
99 I'm Looking Through You (Mono)
100 In My Life (Mono)
101 Wait (Mono)
102 Run For Your Life (Mono)



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urbanfox3105 said:

he does not like them in a box, he does not like them with a fox!

I think The Beatles are over-rated myself, however I can't argue with the volume of songs they have written. John and Paul were profolic songwriters if nothing else.

Yeah, the Beatles are shit.










For fuck's sake!

As much as I love Prince, I can't think of another act that has such a consistently top notch body of work; whether you refer to their early stuff, or their more inventive AND innovative albums from "Revolver" onwards, they always sought to progress. James Brown is the man; but on a compositional level, he's nowhere near the Beatles.

Of course, the Beatles aren't rock'n'roll...are you fucking mad? Check out "Helter Skelter", "Revolution", "I Saw Her Standing There"; I could go on ad nauseam; they are one of the few acts of our times that deserved to be as big as they were. To dismiss the Beatles per se reeks of ignorance; surely there must be one of their many musical phases that you find yourself drawn to?

I will admit that they weren't exactly great vocalists - but hey, this purple guy that I know of doesn't exactly excel in that area either?
[Edited 4/5/06 16:22pm]

bublebath said:

Looking at your avatar, you never will.

jjam said:

It's almost impossible to even compare The Beatles & James Brown. They're so different. They're like Yin & Yang of popular music. Between them you pretty much have it all covered. Anywhere the Beatles are lacking--showmanship & funkiness, for example, James has that covered. Anywhere James is lacking--melody & lyrics, perhaps, the Beatles have that covered.

But they're both so great & so influential & so different that who could say who's better (and be sure that they're right)?

i think the beatles would have cited james brown as an influence, especially in their early days.

Anx said:

Sure, just like so many masters of R&B have sung Beatles songs over the years.

NDRU said:

I'd say the Beatles, Duke Ellington and James Brown are the primary colors of popular music. Just about everybody is influenced by one of those three in some way or another

You'll find the Beatles always say the early influences are...

John - Lonnie Donegan and various skiffle bands

Paul - Bill Haley & Little Richard

George - Carl Perkins & Chuck Berry

Ringo - Lonnie Donegan

Because they wrote some of the greatest songs ever, and if you cannot hear that, then you need some musical growing up to do. Or you have no taste, whatsoever.

Moonbeam said:

Agreed, if I understand what you're saying properly. If I follow your argument through, then nothing can ever be termed indisputably great. There will always exist a divergent opinion that is going to hold that Saul Bellow was a fucking hack novelist, that John Ford couldn't direct his way out of a paper bag. Fair enough, I think that’s a perfectly logical view to hold.

I have not crawled so deep within my fandom that I cannot understand that the Beatles are not a panacea. Certainly, if you crave hard funk, you'll prefer James Brown, if you pine for white blues, you'll go for the Stones or the Pretty Things or whoever. I’m not out to deny anyone of their hatred of the Beatles or whoever. However, I will always respond whenever someone suggests that their legacy isn't deserving of the greatest respect. So if I take it too seriously, well that’s because I ENJOY taking it seriously.
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bublebath said:

I'm not saying that you have to like their music nor exalt them to Godhead status.
But to deny their impact and influence on Pop music is short sighted to say the least.


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damosuzuki said:

It's not that I'm saying that nothing can assume greatness, but nothing should be universally lauded as the greatest, as there should always be room for discussion.

Moonbeam said:

OK - Lord knows I can be prone to the occasional bout of hyperbole.

I liked their first hit, "Take the Last Train to Clarksville".

Their tv show was pretty good, but they kinda jumped the shark with too many appearances on the Brady Bunch.


They had a pretty good guitarist back in the day...I wonder what ever happened to him?

Their documentary was pretty funny, but when Eric Idle left the band to become a snake charmer, it was career suicide.

Their musical in the late seventies, "Dr. Pepper's Clubland" wasn't as good as their earlier work in Saturday Night Fever, but over time it ages well. Stigwood is much better than Martin.

When Davey sang "Yesterday" on the set of Star Trek II, that was totally the bomb, but how did he get the slither thingy out of his ear?

The Beetles has their very own kinda farfennoogenthingy.

Great musicians in a great band.

I think anyone who can't understand The Beatles must have had an unfortunate upbringing or perhaps witnessed kittens being tortured.

It's like not understanding love... but then I guess it takes all kinds and there are those who don't "get" love either.

JPW said:

Now that's just silly.

jacktheimprovident said:

and F. they were the first band to make the album format relevant. it was nothing but singles before the Beatles.

The same people who don't get the Beatles don't get Monty Python. They were like the Gods of a certain era and English culture that people either relate to or don't.

what were rock bands like before the beatles? had there ever been a band before where every member played and instrument AND had a chance to write songs and sing lead? had there ever been a band before the beatles where every member had a distinct personality and "role" in the band? i mean, before ringo, had anyone ever heard a rock drummer talk before?

U take the Beatles and I'll take:
Lil Ricahrd, James Brown, Jerry lee lewis, Johnny B Goode (u know who), Louie Jordan, Bessie Smith, Elvis (some of it), BB King,.....I could go on.

Alasseon said: