Lets talk about Jilly from Philly.

I love her debut record. The poetry, the vocals, "Exclusively," "The Way," "It's Love," "Love Rain..." Also heard her stuff on the new Block Party soundtrack and it's off the hook. Although I don't like her version of "You Got Me"...I know she wrote the hook and Erykah was just the singer on the original and took home the Grammy...blah blah blah forget that mama drama.

Anyhow I've seen Jill live and it was the bomb. Her style is so diverse and she has so much range in her voice and her band was awesome.

But then...2 things...1) it seems you have to either pick a side, Badu or Jill. And you know what side I pick on that one. Critics seem to favor Jill over Badu of late. and 2) As much as I liked some songs, "Beautifully Human" was a disappointment for sure.

Anyhow lets talk about her.

her concert totally dissapointment. she changed the style of the songs way way too much...and i dont know, i just wasnt feeling her.

but i do love her album work.

badujunkie said:

Love em both.

badujunkie said:

Actually, Jill wrote AND sang the hook on the original version of "You Got Me", Badu asked Ahmir why did they need her (Badu) when this chick did a great job singing the hook in the first place.

And who claims u have to choose sides? I've never heard anyone say u have to choose between Badu and Jill.

they both seemed to get along at the Clear Water aftershow in LA when I saw them...

I love Jill, Eryka, Floetry -- et al

I've always enjoyed myself at a Jill Scott concert. Beautifully Human is a bit mellow and love-filled so it caters more to the romantics and I admit it can be a bit too mellow at a show. I hope her next album is more popping and even though I don't run BH much I do catch my self running a song here and there.

Anyhoo, I don't think you have to pick one or the other. It seems most audiences like both. However Erykah appeals to those a little more outside the box. I also think her shows are more exciting.

Erykah's coming to NYC in May btw...
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I wasn't feelin' her in the beginning (when I first started really getting into music), REALLY dug her for a little bit after giving her a second chance.. and now don't really like her again.

She IS a great artist in her own right and I can definitely see (or hear, as it were) her appeal: From a gorgeous voice to a gift for melody to mad skills with a pen, she's got it all. But, for me, personally, after falling in love with the likes of Erykah, Lauryn, and Me'Shell (currently my favorite soul women), her music sounds too much like clean-cut vegetables, as opposed to the meat 'n potatoes of those other three.

I like her live better than recorded.....


i like jilly from philly

Rhondab said:

nah, yall got it all wrong. it's "My name is J-I-LL-SC-O-TTeeeee-heeee comin' from North Philly yall!"

Jill Scott is a one-hit wonder.

Without "Gettin' in the Way" which is a bad jam, which I love, her first album would have came and gone with not much fanfare.

Erykah Badu is another matter entirely. She has proved her staying power. Her last album was great, she is no joke live, and she truly does not give a fuck.

Jill Scott has not stood the test of time, and neither has the genre she embodies - neo-soul.

I grew up in the 70s so best believe you're gonna get judged by the standard that was set at that time - Chaka Khan, Teena Marie, Candi Staton, Lyn Collins, Mavis Staples, Ann Wilson, Chryssie Hynde etc.

While I allow that is a very high standard, I must say Jill is nowhere near it.

And that includes songwriting.

I absolutely love Jill Scott. I love Erykah, too but I listen to Jill's live album practically every day.

I, too prefer her live over her recorded stuff.

darkstranger521 said:

Hmm? Then I guess "Long Walk" wasn't a hit for her either, right? Or "The Way" wasn't a hit for her. To call her a 1 hit wonder is ridiculous. You also forgot "Golden." But you reasoning for why doesn't make sense because you can make that same argument for EVERY artist that drops: "If it wasn't for their 1st hit then they woulda came and gone without any fanfare."

In that case you can even ask where would Badu be without "On & On"? Badu is around because she doesn't drop a lot of material to constantly judge her by. 2 albums and that bullshit EP she dropped and that's it and she's been out a decade already while Jill dropped in 2000 and has had 2 studio releases and a live double CD in just 6 years of being in the game. Jill deserves her props for staying in the game while dropping material.

StoneCrib said:

i agree with your points on jill...

and erykah doesn't drop stuff often enough...i never thought of it as a strategy though that's interesting. however, WWU was just called an EP for marketing purposes...it's over 50 minutes long...it's an album. and you forgot she's also dropped a live disc the SAME YEAR that Baduizm dropped. plus she guests on other people's shit all the time...The Roots, Talib, Sergio Mendes, Busta Rhymes, Common, to name a few. plus she's been on the Brown Sugar sdtk, the Bamboozled sdtk, the Marvin Gaye tribute album...there is more to her output then i think you give her credit for.

badujunkie said:

Yeah, I forgot about her bomb ass live CD, but I also don't really count the guest appearances as anything either, although I really liked "Love of My Life" from the Brown Sugar soundtrack. But stuff like that won't suffice me, I needs ALBUMS from her!

Graycap23 said:

Love 'em both and nobody's gonna make me choose!!

darkstranger521 said:

some ppl think too much

Rhondab said:

I am definitely one of them!

Jill's first album was an instant classic. As for choosing either Jill or Badu, I refuse.

Shit, mofos said that Minnie Riperton was a one-hit-wonder too, go figure

Anyway, I prefer B.H. over her debut and she's def a live stormy

Harlepolis said:

I can't agree with you more. Beautifully Human was better than her debut because of its cohesion and the warmness of the production. The debut had this rawness and slickness that made it an enduring effort.

sosgemini said:

Is that a Clear Channel joke or did you forget it's called Sugar Water?



I don't see why a choice has to be made BUT if both were performing live on the same night, I'd go see Jill. She's just RIDICULOUS live - I love the different flavors she puts into her show, can't wait to see her again. While Beautifully Human didn't make the same impression on me as her first album, I thought it was almost as strong. It's song for song & I still spin it from time to time (the live album too, that shit never disappoints)...

I dig Erykah too now, don't get me wrong - they're both the shit

CalhounSq said:

no you DIH-UNT!

badujunkie said:

Can you ever have a response that doesn't annoy me? WTF does that mean?

i love both jill and erykah -i think erykah is the more talented by far tho jills debut album is probably in my all time top 10

tho i was so disapointed by BH-i put it on yesterday hoping i got it wrong-nope its just....boring

seen jill twice-once in glasgow and once in edinburgh-both fantastic shows tho ive noticed in interviews and live jill is a wee bit up herself

anyway as i say love em both and jill has the most PERFECT SMILE!

I don't listen to her ish very often. I embraced her when she debuted though.

I have all these:

She's no Jessica Simpson, but she is ok.

darkstranger521 said:

One-hit wonder? I guess A Long Walk, He Loves Me (Lyzell In E Flat), The Way, and Golden were bombs.
Thankfully, both Jill & Erykah are going to be here for a long time making beautiful music

Jill has a beautiful voice. Never seen her live though.

Erykah has a unique voice. She kicked my ass live on the Mama's Gun Tour.

I just sum it up this way...if either of them does a show, I'm there. And if either of them releases an album, I'm picking it up.