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Reply #180 posted 03/04/06 8:23am

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Anx said:

DynamicSavior said:


Fine then. What EXACTLY is their contribution to popular music. I'll pretend to care in this case, since I don't listen to "popular" music. Please explain. They're just a boy band. And there's nothing great about John Lennon either.


The Beatles were the first teenybopper boy band to actually PLAY INSTRUMENTS and WRITE THEIR OWN MUSIC. They were also the first "boy band" to transcend bubblegum pop music (which, at the time, was actually a bit edgy) and experiment with the way they wrote and recorded songs.

Now, they weren't the FIRST to do what they did with pop music. They were influenced a lot by Bob Dylan and by The Beach Boys, who were growing out of the whole surfer thing and getting more into experimental music with "Smile" - but nobody expected this group of silly British boys to start writing crazy shit with sitars and backmasked drumming and absurdist lyrics about walruses and eggmen and whatever...it was kinda like Prince back in the '80s when he was at his commercial/creative peak. You just never knew what was gonna come out next. It could be anything.

Paul McCartney's a great pop songwriter. Lennon was a great bluesy rock songwriter. They had a good vibe together. George turned out to be a really good songwriter, too.

I think The Beatles were the first pop band to really truly take chances with their music and have it still be successful. I think that's why so many people love them to this day, and why they influence so many artists.


That description sounds great. Where can I get their albums?
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Reply #181 posted 03/04/06 8:24am

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Any kind of mainstream teeny-bopper act like Britney Spears or the Simpson sisters who think it's more important to "look pretty" than to actually perform good music, any kind of stupid rap shit, most r&b and reggaeton out there today, these fake British retro-rock invasion bands that think that they're music is too intellectual for you if you're not in the scene, emo bands, some hardcore bands, and Celine Dion lol

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Reply #182 posted 03/04/06 8:48am

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Anx said:

DynamicSavior said:


Fine then. What EXACTLY is their contribution to popular music. I'll pretend to care in this case, since I don't listen to "popular" music. Please explain. They're just a boy band. And there's nothing great about John Lennon either.


The Beatles were the first teenybopper boy band to actually PLAY INSTRUMENTS and WRITE THEIR OWN MUSIC. They were also the first "boy band" to transcend bubblegum pop music (which, at the time, was actually a bit edgy) and experiment with the way they wrote and recorded songs.

Now, they weren't the FIRST to do what they did with pop music. They were influenced a lot by Bob Dylan and by The Beach Boys, who were growing out of the whole surfer thing and getting more into experimental music with "Smile" - but nobody expected this group of silly British boys to start writing crazy shit with sitars and backmasked drumming and absurdist lyrics about walruses and eggmen and whatever...it was kinda like Prince back in the '80s when he was at his commercial/creative peak. You just never knew what was gonna come out next. It could be anything.

Paul McCartney's a great pop songwriter. Lennon was a great bluesy rock songwriter. They had a good vibe together. George turned out to be a really good songwriter, too.

I think The Beatles were the first pop band to really truly take chances with their music and have it still be successful. I think that's why so many people love them to this day, and why they influence so many artists.


..but no synthesizers? Come on now.
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Reply #183 posted 03/04/06 8:55am

JasonStar

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Rob Thomas/Matchbox Twenty


You lost some cool points for that! eek
However, you have so many in my book for your tastes in music you'll still be like at 100000)! biggrin
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Reply #184 posted 03/04/06 9:04am

Anx

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Anx said:



The Beatles were the first teenybopper boy band to actually PLAY INSTRUMENTS and WRITE THEIR OWN MUSIC. They were also the first "boy band" to transcend bubblegum pop music (which, at the time, was actually a bit edgy) and experiment with the way they wrote and recorded songs.

Now, they weren't the FIRST to do what they did with pop music. They were influenced a lot by Bob Dylan and by The Beach Boys, who were growing out of the whole surfer thing and getting more into experimental music with "Smile" - but nobody expected this group of silly British boys to start writing crazy shit with sitars and backmasked drumming and absurdist lyrics about walruses and eggmen and whatever...it was kinda like Prince back in the '80s when he was at his commercial/creative peak. You just never knew what was gonna come out next. It could be anything.

Paul McCartney's a great pop songwriter. Lennon was a great bluesy rock songwriter. They had a good vibe together. George turned out to be a really good songwriter, too.

I think The Beatles were the first pop band to really truly take chances with their music and have it still be successful. I think that's why so many people love them to this day, and why they influence so many artists.


..but no synthesizers? Come on now.


what are you talking about? of course they had synthesizers. and if the beatles didn't have enough synthesizers for your liking, that's what ELO was for in the seventies.
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Reply #185 posted 03/04/06 9:05am

Anx

JasonStar said:

sextonseven said:


Rob Thomas/Matchbox Twenty


You lost some cool points for that! eek
However, you have so many in my book for your tastes in music you'll still be like at 100000)! biggrin


i can't stand him/them either. is he done writing songs about being scared yet?
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Reply #186 posted 03/06/06 9:05am

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JasonStar said:

sextonseven said:


Rob Thomas/Matchbox Twenty


You lost some cool points for that! eek
However, you have so many in my book for your tastes in music you'll still be like at 100000)! biggrin


Hey, well thanks! I think. I always felt if you were going to like a boring band that played bland radio-friendly rock in the late 90s, at least listen to Third Eye Blind.

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Reply #187 posted 03/06/06 10:23am

JasonStar

sextonseven said:

JasonStar said:



You lost some cool points for that! eek
However, you have so many in my book for your tastes in music you'll still be like at 100000)! biggrin


Hey, well thanks! I think. I always felt if you were going to like a boring band that played bland radio-friendly rock in the late 90s, at least listen to Third Eye Blind.

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Reply #188 posted 03/06/06 12:27pm

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Anx said:

DynamicSavior said:



..but no synthesizers? Come on now.


what are you talking about? of course they had synthesizers. and if the beatles didn't have enough synthesizers for your liking, that's what ELO was for in the seventies.

lol That's TOO much synthesizers for my liking.
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Reply #189 posted 03/06/06 2:06pm

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Reply #190 posted 03/06/06 10:43pm

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saintsation said:[quote]1. todays artists period
2. todays artists who think they can sing
3. todays artists who takes other peoples songs
4. todays artists who shows no respect to the big dogs of the past
5. todays artists who constantly praise older artists



I agree 100%
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Reply #191 posted 03/07/06 3:51am

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mmm,only 5?..let's see..
C Aguilera,M Carey,Pet Shop Boys,James Blunt,Pink Floyd..

I'll leave it to that
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Reply #192 posted 03/07/06 11:03am

MistyCotton

I use to hate these people, but their careers seems to be over so I feel better:

Fred Durst
Asanti (never understood this one)
Ja Rule
Natalie Merchant
Hootie & The Blowfish




People I currently hate(I had to do 6):

The Simpson Sisters,
Brittany Spears,
Rob Thomas (his voice drives me nuts)
50 cent
Usher
Lenny (poser boy) Kravitz
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Reply #193 posted 03/10/06 7:56pm

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1. Dylan
2. Dylan
3. Dylan
4. Dylan
5. Dylan
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Reply #194 posted 03/10/06 8:00pm

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2. Geraldo


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Reply #195 posted 03/11/06 5:19am

purpledisc

1. Anyone who won some overhyped TV show to gain a record deal
2. Anyone who cannot write a single line of their own music and has to continously produce cover songs
3. Leann Ryhmes for what she did to Purple Rain
4. Britney Spears
5. The Cheeky Girls (dear god....what was that about!!)

Loads more, but you said 5 !!

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Reply #196 posted 03/15/06 5:00pm

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DynamicSavior said:

Bfunkthe1 said:


If someone has to explain to you the "greatness" of an artist, then the point is mute, null and void, basically it doesn't matter. You either like it or you don't.
If on the other hand, you can't respect an artist for their contribution to "popular" music and their impact in the bigger scheme of things, well I don't want to tell you but to "Keep on Keepin' on".

Fine then. What EXACTLY is their contribution to popular music. I'll pretend to care in this case, since I don't listen to "popular" music. Please explain. They're just a boy band. And there's nothing great about John Lennon either.


The great thing about them (other than the couple hundred classic pop songs they contributed) was their growth.

Like you say they started as a boy band. They did good pop, more melodic & harmonic than typical rock & roll. They were a very polished live band who sang & played well with great vocal arrangements.

Still, it was just nice pop, puppy love songs. Nobody expected anything more from them.

Then, in about 1965 they began to write more personal lyrics (Help), more challenging music, blurring the lines between pop & classical (Yesterday), folk & rock (You've Got to Hide Your Love Away), even adding a touch of R&B.

Then in 1966, they added psychedelic touches (Tomorrow Never Knows, I'm Only Sleeping), Indian influences (Norweigen Wood), and even more insightful & personal lyrics (in My Life). The touches of classical (Eleanor Rigby) & Jazz (Got To Get You Into My Life) were more creative & individual.

By 1967 they were adding stream of consciousness lyrics & sounds nobody had ever heard before (Lucy In the Sky With Diamonds), seamlessly blending musical styles from around the world and from the depths of their imagination (A Day In The Life).

I could go on, but you get the idea.
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Reply #197 posted 03/17/06 9:14am

Riverpoet31

But.....radiohead are by far the worst

Its a sin that there are some ´musicfans´ who think that radiohead matter and create great music. Come on they are as trivial as Janet Jackson...
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Reply #198 posted 03/17/06 9:24am

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Riverpoet31 said:

But.....radiohead are by far the worst

Its a sin that there are some ´musicfans´ who think that radiohead matter and create great music. Come on they are as trivial as Janet Jackson...

Opinions, opinions. rolleyes
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Reply #199 posted 03/17/06 9:40am

purpledisc

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I use to hate these people, but their careers seems to be over so I feel better:

Fred Durst
Asanti (never understood this one)
Ja Rule
Natalie Merchant
Hootie & The Blowfish




People I currently hate(I had to do 6):

The Simpson Sisters,
Brittany Spears,
Rob Thomas (his voice drives me nuts)
50 cent
Usher
Lenny (poser boy) Kravitz



You hate Maggie and Lisa ????? lol
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Reply #200 posted 03/22/06 5:02pm

MistyCotton

purpledisc said:[quote]

MistyCotton said:

I use to hate these people, but their careers seems to be over so I feel better:

Fred Durst
Asanti (never understood this one)
Ja Rule
Natalie Merchant
Hootie & The Blowfish




People I currently hate(I had to do 6):

The Simpson Sisters,
Brittany Spears,
Rob Thomas (his voice drives me nuts)
50 cent
Usher
Lenny (poser boy) Kravitz



I'm so late.....hilarious hah!You hate Maggie and Lisa ????? lol
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Reply #201 posted 03/22/06 6:32pm

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I can see the Beatle nazis have arrived. rolleyes

Why isn't it possible to simply state that you don't like the Beatles without being ostracized?
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Reply #202 posted 03/22/06 7:52pm

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GangstaFam said:


Just hideous.



that's a little harsh - at least *I* dislike tori for all the RIGHT reasons!

And those would be?
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Reply #203 posted 03/23/06 10:38am

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Moonbeam said:

I can see the Beatle nazis have arrived. rolleyes

Why isn't it possible to simply state that you don't like the Beatles without being ostracized?


It seemed 2 me like it wasn't so much Beatle-nazism, but answers 2 the question "What was their contribution?"
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Reply #204 posted 03/23/06 11:40am

Graycap23

Can u hate an artist that you would NEVER listen to?
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Reply #205 posted 03/28/06 8:50am

Riverpoet31

Of course the Beatles are better then Janet Jackson, but when some people say they hate the Beatles, thats legitimate...duh

Not all Prince-fans are musical omnivores (as i wish they would), some stick on R&B, others keep it with the funk, why bother when the only Beatles-song they ever heard is obladi-oblada and they base their view on that.

To be honest, IMO, Prince, Kings X and World Party (Karl Wallinger) did better psychedelica then the beatles ever did, Crowded House perfectioned the perfect Pop song, I mean, i know the things the Beatles started those things, but that doesnt mean i like to listen to their music more then the other artists mentioned.

The same goes with the Beatle-haters here. I mean, in a free, democratic society (wonders if some musicfans are...) thats a result of a thread like this.
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Reply #206 posted 03/28/06 11:00am

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Well I'd say it's somewhat unnecessary to "hate" art. It either speaks to you or it doesn't. Of course, I'd be lying if I said that there weren't certain "artists" I hate, but that almost always results from a combination of 1.Their personality (ie hatred of them as a person, not necessarily of their art at first) 2. lack of actual "artistic" merit in their music 3. resentment of popularity that is undeserved because of #2. There are lots of artists I don't "like" but that I respect, and others that I don't "get" but don't hate. Artists I hate almost always belong to the fatuous, braindead, uber-derivative mainstream radio categories: wack manufactured hip-hop (fiddy cent, black eyed peas), stale unoriginal R&B (usher), pretentious and/or blase and/or whiny and/or melodramatic modern rock (coldplay, radiohead, oasis), smooth/snooze jazz that gives real jazz a bad rep (kenny g., whatever the hell's on "the breeze" at the moment).
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Reply #207 posted 03/28/06 11:06am

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OKAY HERE'S MY LIST

PUFF DADDY.... HE HASNT HAD A GOOD HIT SINCE MASE.... AND HE THINKS HIS STUFF IS ALL THAT AND HE'S ARROGANT

USHER... HE THINKS HE'S THE NEW MICHEAL JACKSON... AND THAT HE IS SO COOL AND CUTE...

KANYE WEST.... HE JUST CAME OUT AND TRIES TO ACT LIKE HE IS SOME KIND OF A LEGEND... WHEN IN FACT... HIS MUSIC IS OKAY

MARIAH CAREY... TOO OVER RATED...TOO MUCH CONFIDENCE(I WOULD ALMOST SAY ARROGANT) ACTS ANNOYING...AND SHE TRIES TO HARD TO LOOK GOOD OR BE SEXY... EVEN THOUGH SHE CAN ONLY TAKE PICTURES ON ONE SIDE OF HER FACE...


50 CENT.... HE THINKS HE'S A LEGEND... AND HE'S NOT... HIS LAST ALBUM CANT EVEN COMPARE TO HIS FIRST ABLUM.. WHICH HAD BETTER SONGS... AND NOW EVERY NEW SONG THAT HE PRODUCE SOUNDS THE SAME.... IF I HEAR HIS SONG BEING PLAYED IN SOMEONE' CAR... I CAN INSTANTLY TELL ITS 50 CENT... JUST BY THE MUSIC ALONE

I DONT REALLY HATE THESE ARTIST.... BUT THESE ARTIST JUST HAVE SUCH A BIG EGO, AND THINK THEY ARE MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE.... ITS SO ANNOYING...

THEY DO HAVE A FEW HITS.... I CANT DENY THAT.... BUT THEY NEED TO BE PUT INTO CHECK.

1. THEY ALL LOOK OKAY
2. THERE MUSIC IS OKAY... INCLUDING MARIAH... HE FIRST SONGS WERE BAD
3. THEY ARE WEIRD...

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Reply #208 posted 03/28/06 11:19am

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Of course the Beatles are better then Janet Jackson, but when some people say they hate the Beatles, thats legitimate...duh

Not all Prince-fans are musical omnivores (as i wish they would), some stick on R&B, others keep it with the funk, why bother when the only Beatles-song they ever heard is obladi-oblada and they base their view on that.

To be honest, IMO, Prince, Kings X and World Party (Karl Wallinger) did better psychedelica then the beatles ever did, Crowded House perfectioned the perfect Pop song, I mean, i know the things the Beatles started those things, but that doesnt mean i like to listen to their music more then the other artists mentioned.

The same goes with the Beatle-haters here. I mean, in a free, democratic society (wonders if some musicfans are...) thats a result of a thread like this.


Nobody has to like the Beatles. But when people actually say they're bad, there's a lot of people to jump all over them.

Likewise, if someone asks why were they good, there's a lot of people who are eager to tell you.
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Reply #209 posted 03/28/06 1:37pm

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Slipknot
50 cent
Westlife
Oasis
Atomic Kitten
Time is a trick....
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