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Thread started 02/07/06 2:03pm

dammme

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Madonna vs Mariah: Is that true?

From Mariah Carey Blog that states that "Madonna Stole Mariah Carey’s Grammy Opening Show!"
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http://www.mariahshows.com/
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Reply #1 posted 02/07/06 2:45pm

jayaredee

I doubt that they would have even considered Mariah to open the show. Honestly, she doesn't have the ability to hook in viewers.

I heard they were originally considering Kanye to open.
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Reply #2 posted 02/07/06 6:22pm

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At least Mariah can sing. It's the grammys remember.
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Reply #3 posted 02/07/06 6:55pm

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jayaredee said:

I doubt that they would have even considered Mariah to open the show. Honestly, she doesn't have the ability to hook in viewers.

I heard they were originally considering Kanye to open.

Why wouldn't they? she's the number one recording artist today.
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Reply #4 posted 02/07/06 7:40pm

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Madonna can do whatever she wants. So she said either I open the show or I don't perform...and they went with her.

If you check Google statistics, Madonna WAY trumps Mariah for like 90 million searches vs. 20 million (yes I am sick and bored). So there is more public interest in Madonna, despite all the Wal Mart shoppers and lambs who re-buy Mimi and radios who've been payola-ed up the ass.
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Reply #5 posted 02/07/06 8:33pm

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badujunkie said:

Madonna can do whatever she wants. So she said either I open the show or I don't perform...and they went with her.

If you check Google statistics, Madonna WAY trumps Mariah for like 90 million searches vs. 20 million (yes I am sick and bored). So there is more public interest in Madonna, despite all the Wal Mart shoppers and lambs who re-buy Mimi and radios who've been payola-ed up the ass.

yeah because "you" know all this as fact. whatever.
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Reply #6 posted 02/07/06 9:32pm

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twink69 said:

jayaredee said:

I doubt that they would have even considered Mariah to open the show. Honestly, she doesn't have the ability to hook in viewers.

I heard they were originally considering Kanye to open.

Why wouldn't they? she's the number one recording artist today.


Yeah, but she is over exposed....Madonna does timely performances....Mariah shows up to the drop of a hat. It's not really bad mouthing Mariah....What she does works for her (she does outsell Madonna) but what Madonna does works for her.
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Reply #7 posted 02/07/06 9:39pm

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Madonna is a much better live entertainer than Mariah
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Reply #8 posted 02/07/06 10:43pm

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badujunkie said:

Madonna can do whatever she wants. So she said either I open the show or I don't perform...and they went with her.

If you check Google statistics, Madonna WAY trumps Mariah for like 90 million searches vs. 20 million (yes I am sick and bored). So there is more public interest in Madonna, despite all the Wal Mart shoppers and lambs who re-buy Mimi and radios who've been payola-ed up the ass.



lol Stop, they gave Mariah's first single a hard time too. In fact, Z100 was slow to pick up We Belong Together. Z100 is the biggest station in the nation, but it wanted to make sure the song was a hit. Payola sure didn't help Pearlnecklace. Mariah still was the winner w/ the buying public in the U.S.. Madonna can keep her prestigous Google title though.
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Reply #9 posted 02/07/06 10:59pm

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Mariah isn't one 100th the performer that Madonna is. That's why Madonna will always garner more attention for her performances.
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Reply #10 posted 02/07/06 11:13pm

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well i said this somewhere before so ill say it again, this whole madonna and goriallz opening just sounds like a bad idea. I dont think in a live performance
the combo of a person and cartoon characters is going to work.

It just sounds corny.
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Reply #11 posted 02/07/06 11:29pm

Cheek

Is Madonna nominated in any Grammy category this year??? smile
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Reply #12 posted 02/07/06 11:48pm

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Cheek said:

Is Madonna nominated in any Grammy category this year??? smile



No,but that's only because her CD came out too late lol
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Reply #13 posted 02/07/06 11:50pm

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DavidEye said:

Cheek said:

Is Madonna nominated in any Grammy category this year??? smile



No,but that's only because her CD came out too late lol


Then what the fuck is she doin' at the Grammies???? lol
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Reply #14 posted 02/07/06 11:50pm

Cheek

Oh, promoting her lame album... smile
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Reply #15 posted 02/07/06 11:55pm

DavidEye

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DavidEye said:




No,but that's only because her CD came out too late lol


Then what the fuck is she doin' at the Grammies???? lol



You don't have to be a nominee in order to perform or appear at the Grammys.In 2004,Prince wasn't nominated for anything and there he was...opening the show.
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Reply #16 posted 02/07/06 11:59pm

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You don't have to be a nominee in order to perform or appear at the Grammys.In 2004,Prince wasn't nominated for anything and there he was...opening the show.


Best Instrumental album: N.E.W.S. smile
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Reply #17 posted 02/08/06 12:01am

DavidEye

badujunkie said:

Madonna can do whatever she wants. So she said either I open the show or I don't perform...and they went with her.

If you check Google statistics, Madonna WAY trumps Mariah for like 90 million searches vs. 20 million (yes I am sick and bored). So there is more public interest in Madonna, despite all the Wal Mart shoppers and lambs who re-buy Mimi and radios who've been payola-ed up the ass.



Not to mention the simple fact that Madonna is a five-time Grammy winner,while Mariah has,so far,only won two Grammys in her career.
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Reply #18 posted 02/08/06 2:52am

CrozzaUK

There's no way the organisers would want to open the show with a ballad for gods sakes, although knowing mariah, she's perform half ballad half dreadfully souped up dance version of the ballad.

The organisers have gone with the act they know will be the most entertaining, why would whoevers sold the most in the US be the test as to who should open the show? Whats so special or unique about seeing Mariah perform We Belong Together for the 2000th time.
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Reply #19 posted 02/08/06 3:54am

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Reply #20 posted 02/08/06 4:46am

roundables

DavidEye said:

badujunkie said:

Madonna can do whatever she wants. So she said either I open the show or I don't perform...and they went with her.

If you check Google statistics, Madonna WAY trumps Mariah for like 90 million searches vs. 20 million (yes I am sick and bored). So there is more public interest in Madonna, despite all the Wal Mart shoppers and lambs who re-buy Mimi and radios who've been payola-ed up the ass.



Not to mention the simple fact that Madonna is a five-time Grammy winner,while Mariah has,so far,only won two Grammys in her career.



Since when do they hand out performance spots based on Grammy wins? Does that mean the next Grammy show that Beyonce should open over Madonna? She has more Grammys.
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Reply #21 posted 02/08/06 4:49am

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DavidEye said:




Not to mention the simple fact that Madonna is a five-time Grammy winner,while Mariah has,so far,only won two Grammys in her career.



Since when do they hand out performance spots based on Grammy wins? Does that mean the next Grammy show that Beyonce should open over Madonna? She has more Grammys.


rolleyes

I didn't say that they hand out performances based on Grammy wins.I'm just pointing out that,Madonna has alot of clout with the Grammy folks in charge.If she says SHE wants to open the show,do you seriously think they would turn her down? In favor of Mariah Carey?! Come on now...


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Reply #22 posted 02/08/06 7:22am

mancabdriver

she may have good singles but does anybody even look forward to a mariah performance? i personally find them cringy.
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Reply #23 posted 02/08/06 7:27am

Cheek

I do like Mariah's music and I'm looking forward to see her performance! hmph!
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Reply #24 posted 02/08/06 8:22am

CinisterCee

Madonna's joke:

"What's the difference between a pop star and a terrorist?"

"You can negotiate with a terrorist."
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Reply #25 posted 02/08/06 8:24am

Cheek

CinisterCee said:

Madonna's joke:

"What's the difference between a pop star and a terrorist?"

"You can negotiate with a terrorist."


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Reply #26 posted 02/08/06 10:48am

roundables

DavidEye said:

roundables said:




Since when do they hand out performance spots based on Grammy wins? Does that mean the next Grammy show that Beyonce should open over Madonna? She has more Grammys.


rolleyes

I didn't say that they hand out performances based on Grammy wins.I'm just pointing out that,Madonna has alot of clout with the Grammy folks in charge.If she says SHE wants to open the show,do you seriously think they would turn her down? In favor of Mariah Carey?! Come on now...


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Yeah I do. Mariah's the one that made all the noise last yr. in the U.S. Madonna's visibility here has been slim to none. Mariah was the story of the year what did Madonna do?
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Reply #27 posted 02/08/06 2:28pm

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roundables said:

badujunkie said:

Madonna can do whatever she wants. So she said either I open the show or I don't perform...and they went with her.

If you check Google statistics, Madonna WAY trumps Mariah for like 90 million searches vs. 20 million (yes I am sick and bored). So there is more public interest in Madonna, despite all the Wal Mart shoppers and lambs who re-buy Mimi and radios who've been payola-ed up the ass.



lol Stop, they gave Mariah's first single a hard time too. In fact, Z100 was slow to pick up We Belong Together. Z100 is the biggest station in the nation, but it wanted to make sure the song was a hit. Payola sure didn't help Pearlnecklace. Mariah still was the winner w/ the buying public in the U.S.. Madonna can keep her prestigous Google title though.


That doesn't mean payola didn't help...what the fuck is up with playing her cover verison of "We Belong Together" ("Don't Forget About Us") to death....
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Reply #28 posted 02/08/06 5:37pm

roundables

VinnyM27 said:

roundables said:




lol Stop, they gave Mariah's first single a hard time too. In fact, Z100 was slow to pick up We Belong Together. Z100 is the biggest station in the nation, but it wanted to make sure the song was a hit. Payola sure didn't help Pearlnecklace. Mariah still was the winner w/ the buying public in the U.S.. Madonna can keep her prestigous Google title though.


That doesn't mean payola didn't help...what the fuck is up with playing her cover verison of "We Belong Together" ("Don't Forget About Us") to death....



They did well on call out research. It's not like she doesn't have the album sales to back up the radio airplay. Somebody is wanting to hear Mariah's music. I love how it has to be payola now that her songs were hits. But, w/ Pearlnecklace her stuff was just flopping. IF this was Madonna nobody would be yelling payola. But, because her stuff is flopping it's some Madonna age conspiracy. It's not like her first single just took off. Radio was cautious and cautious still w/ We Belong Together. IF it was payola and bad call out research. They'd just spin her mess at night time to garner some spins, and collect money. Mariah did good on call out research and Madonna didn't it.
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Reply #29 posted 02/08/06 9:05pm

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roundables said:

VinnyM27 said:



That doesn't mean payola didn't help...what the fuck is up with playing her cover verison of "We Belong Together" ("Don't Forget About Us") to death....



They did well on call out research. It's not like she doesn't have the album sales to back up the radio airplay. Somebody is wanting to hear Mariah's music. I love how it has to be payola now that her songs were hits. But, w/ Pearlnecklace her stuff was just flopping. IF this was Madonna nobody would be yelling payola. But, because her stuff is flopping it's some Madonna age conspiracy. It's not like her first single just took off. Radio was cautious and cautious still w/ We Belong Together. IF it was payola and bad call out research. They'd just spin her mess at night time to garner some spins, and collect money. Mariah did good on call out research and Madonna didn't it.


Well I think of it this way....Madonna managed to hit the Top Ten mostly from sales...I think that's a more impressive feat than taking the number one spot based mostly on radio play, which is fishy at best. There is no way to prove it's payola, but it certaintly got paid too much, along with it's follow ups.
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