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Thread started 01/02/06 3:39pm

Icicle

The Philly sound

While not nearly as big as Motown, the Philly music is just as good. Jean Carne, Phyllis Hyman and
Teddy Pendegrass all made really good music on the Philadelphia international label.

This is one of my favorite "Philly songs"



Now name your favorite songs...
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Reply #1 posted 01/02/06 3:42pm

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The Three Degrees



music worship
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Reply #2 posted 01/02/06 5:23pm

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Damn...






...Another genre to pine over the loss of. confused


Might even be considered Soul at its most sophisticated.


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Reply #3 posted 01/02/06 9:27pm

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cool Can't forget La Belle & Patti
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Reply #4 posted 01/02/06 9:32pm

RipHer2Shreds

theAudience said:

Damn...

...Another genre to pine over the loss of. confused


Might even be consider Soul at its most sophisticated.


I would agree with you. As much as I love Motown, I think the 70s era of soul, particularly Philly soul was more adventurous. Not to take anything at all away from the Motown sound, but there's a layered sound to the Philly sound that really was musically brilliant. It's all about those horns, strings and falsettos.
music to my ears.
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Reply #5 posted 01/02/06 10:07pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

theAudience said:

Damn...

...Another genre to pine over the loss of. confused


Might even be considered Soul at its most sophisticated.


I would agree with you. As much as I love Motown, I think the 70s era of soul, particularly Philly soul was more adventurous. Not to take anything at all away from the Motown sound, but there's a layered sound to the Philly sound that really was musically brilliant. It's all about those horns, strings and falsettos.
music to my ears.

I agree with your agreement. wink

Thom Bell along with Gamble & Huff knew how to put it down.


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Reply #6 posted 01/03/06 12:57am

DavidEye

The Philly Sound rules!! I am in the process of collecting everything that was produced by Gamble and Huff in the 70s.I have most of this stuff already.This is soul music at it's highest point,imo.
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Reply #7 posted 01/03/06 1:44am

Icicle

Vocally, Jean Carn is my favorite



I heard a Teddy Pendergrass not long ago, that i liked a lot, called "It don`t hurt now"
"Could it be i`m falling in love" is good, but i prefer Regina Belle`s cover.
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I love Philly! Anybody own the 14 album vinyl box set "The Philadelphia Story 1971-1986"released on Streetsounds in GB in the 80ees? this one's just too marevellous for words touched Outstanding!

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Reply #9 posted 01/03/06 1:59am

DavidEye

Icicle said:

I heard a Teddy Pendergrass song not long ago, that i liked a lot, called "It don`t hurt now"


see,there's no more sleepless nights
no more heartaches and no more fights
now all that has changed
I found someone to ease my pain
and it don't hurt now....no,not now
baby it don't hurt now...no,not now



"It Don't Hurt Now" is from his 1978 album,'Life Is A Song Worth Singing'.This album is a soulful masterpiece....probably the best album that Gamble and Huff ever produced,with the possible exception of the Ojays' albums from this period.
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Reply #10 posted 01/03/06 2:00am

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DavidEye said:

"It Don't Hurt Now" is from his 1978 album,'Life Is A Song Worth Singing'.This album is a soulful masterpiece....


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Reply #11 posted 01/03/06 2:05am

DavidEye

Dancelot said:

I love Philly! Anybody own the 14 album vinyl box set "The Philadelphia Story 1971-1986"released on Streetsounds in GB in the 80ees? this one's just too marevellous for words touched Outstanding!




man,I need that set!! I have the 3-CD box set that came out in the 90s,but this vinyl set looks much more interesting.
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Reply #12 posted 01/03/06 2:06am

Icicle

Dancelot said:

I love Philly! Anybody own the 14 album vinyl box set "The Philadelphia Story 1971-1986"


drool Does it include Jean Carn`s "If you wanna go back" and "You got a problem"?
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Reply #13 posted 01/03/06 2:16am

DavidEye

you guys MUST read this book,if you haven't done so already
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Reply #14 posted 01/03/06 2:21am

DavidEye

RipHer2Shreds said:

As much as I love Motown, I think the 70s era of soul, particularly Philly soul was more adventurous. Not to take anything at all away from the Motown sound, but there's a layered sound to the Philly sound that really was musically brilliant. It's all about those horns, strings and falsettos. music to my ears.



I agree with everything you said
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Reply #15 posted 01/03/06 8:06am

IAintTheOne

for one Barry white did not record for Philly international,please before you post something do your research and know before you post. Barry white recorded for 20th century records and before that he recorded for Uni records with Love unlimited. and before that he played on jesse belvin's "Goodnight my love" on Old town" so lets get it right.
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Reply #16 posted 01/03/06 8:16am

IAintTheOne

mrwigglesdaw1rm said:

cool Can't forget La Belle & Patti



"Labelle" recorded for Epic Patti's solo work was for Philly int'l
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Reply #17 posted 01/03/06 8:18am

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Philly girl right here!
Even though I wasn't old enough to party when Philly International was in its heyday, I still say it's some of the best stuff. Too bad it's not around like it used to be.
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Reply #18 posted 01/03/06 8:22am

IAintTheOne

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Philly girl right here!
Even though I wasn't old enough to party when Philly International was in its heyday, I still say it's some of the best stuff. Too bad it's not around like it used to be.


in the early 60's Kenny and leon started a label called "Neptune" which was the pre cursor to Pi, back then ther where a few labels from Philly that made noise,Phil la of soul ( cliff nobles & co,) Philly Groove records ( Delfonics,first choice etc.) im not sure if Avco was Philly based.
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Reply #19 posted 01/03/06 8:32am

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IAintTheOne said:

1sexymf said:

Philly girl right here!
Even though I wasn't old enough to party when Philly International was in its heyday, I still say it's some of the best stuff. Too bad it's not around like it used to be.


in the early 60's Kenny and leon started a label called "Neptune" which was the pre cursor to Pi, back then ther where a few labels from Philly that made noise,Phil la of soul ( cliff nobles & co,) Philly Groove records ( Delfonics,first choice etc.) im not sure if Avco was Philly based.


I'm not sure of that either. I'm going to have to look into it.
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you're the reason why-the ebonys
year of decision-three degrees
Love is the message-MFSB
Strategy-Archie bell & the drells
Thank you for saving my life-Billy paul
Satisfaction guaranteed-Harold and the blue notes
Sexy-MFSB
I wanna know your name-The Intruders
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Reply #22 posted 01/04/06 12:20am

DavidEye

IAintTheOne said:

mrwigglesdaw1rm said:

cool Can't forget La Belle & Patti



"Labelle" recorded for Epic.Patti's solo work was for Philly int'l



an interesting fact: Patti LaBelle recorded a solo album for Philly International in 1979,but the album was shelved for a few years.Finally,it was released in 1983 and became a big hit.The album was 'I'm In Love Again' featuring the major hits "If Only You Knew" and "Love,Need and Want You".Great album,but does anyone know why it wasn't released in 1979?
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Reply #23 posted 01/04/06 8:40am

IAintTheOne

DavidEye said:

IAintTheOne said:




"Labelle" recorded for Epic.Patti's solo work was for Philly int'l



an interesting fact: Patti LaBelle recorded a solo album for Philly International in 1979,but the album was shelved for a few years.Finally,it was released in 1983 and became a big hit.The album was 'I'm In Love Again' featuring the major hits "If Only You Knew" and "Love,Need and Want You".Great album,but does anyone know why it wasn't released in 1979?



she still had a contractual agreement with Epic in 1979
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Reply #24 posted 01/04/06 9:08am

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Icicle said:

I heard a Teddy Pendergrass song not long ago, that i liked a lot, called "It don`t hurt now"


see,there's no more sleepless nights
no more heartaches and no more fights
now all that has changed
I found someone to ease my pain
and it don't hurt now....no,not now
baby it don't hurt now...no,not now



"It Don't Hurt Now" is from his 1978 album,'Life Is A Song Worth Singing'.This album is a soulful masterpiece....probably the best album that Gamble and Huff ever produced,with the possible exception of the Ojays' albums from this period.

I have that song on a old school mix c.d .One of my favorites smile
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DavidEye said:

you guys MUST read this book,if you haven't done so already

Eye, u beat me to it! I have this book and it's an EXCELLENT read. Look, these guys were crucial. I would say even more so than Berry and co. at Motown. They were very "black minded" and they combined that with plush arrangements. That's a potent combination. Very much like Niles and Bernard did later with Chic. Good thread!!
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Reply #26 posted 01/04/06 11:59pm

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blackguitaristz said:

DavidEye said:

you guys MUST read this book,if you haven't done so already

Eye, u beat me to it! I have this book and it's an EXCELLENT read. Look, these guys were crucial. I would say even more so than Berry and co. at Motown. They were very "black minded" and they combined that with plush arrangements. That's a potent combination. Very much like Niles and Bernard did later with Chic. Good thread!!



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Reply #27 posted 01/06/06 12:25am

funkpill

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you guys MUST read this book,if you haven't done so already



Gotta grab this one.... biggrin
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Reply #28 posted 01/06/06 12:44am

DavidEye

funkpill said:

DavidEye said:

you guys MUST read this book,if you haven't done so already



Gotta grab this one.... biggrin



Trust me,you won't be sorry.When I was reading this book,I couldn't put it down! Very informative and well-written.The author really did his homework.If you love Philly soul,this book is crucial.Lots of interviews with the musicians,songwriters,etc who were involved with making this incredible music.
I love when they talk about the recording sessions for certain songs,like The O'Jay's "Backstabbers" and Harold Melvin and the BlueNote's "Bad Luck".It's so exciting to read.
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Reply #29 posted 01/06/06 1:11am

funkpill

DavidEye said:

funkpill said:




Gotta grab this one.... biggrin



Trust me,you won't be sorry.When I was reading this book,I couldn't put it down! Very informative and well-written.The author really did his homework.If you love Philly soul,this book is crucial.Lots of interviews with the musicians,songwriters,etc who were involved with making this incredible music.
I love when they talk about the recording sessions for certain songs,like The O'Jay's "Backstabbers" and Harold Melvin and the BlueNote's "Bad Luck".It's so exciting to read.



I can dig it... fro

I get geek up on stuff like this too....thumbs up!
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