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Reply #90 posted 01/02/06 1:56pm

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VoicesCarry said:

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I'm "Sorry"..smile

Stuart was just a suggestion. How about a non-Madonna dance producer like Metro?


Why are you trying to turn Janet into Cher ca. 1999 whofarted?


I don't know...with Kanye and JD, why are we trying to turn her into Mariah ca. 2005? I want to hear her with some hot dance producers. I hope the Swedish guys producer more than two tracks!
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Reply #91 posted 01/02/06 2:00pm

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Why are you trying to turn Janet into Cher ca. 1999 whofarted?


I don't know...with Kanye and JD, why are we trying to turn her into Mariah ca. 2005? I want to hear her with some hot dance producers. I hope the Swedish guys producer more than two tracks!


At least it's more current lol

And something tells me she won't be doing songs in the same style as Mariah eek
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Reply #92 posted 01/02/06 2:12pm

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VoicesCarry said:

CinisterCee said:



Damita Jo, the 2004 album
Jermaine Dupri, the secret husband


lol He is executive producer. He is also producing a few tracks (majority is Jam & Lewis, though).

He said he will not be guesting on any of the tracks, thank God. No So So Def bullshit.


What the hook gon be? music
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Reply #93 posted 01/02/06 2:42pm

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Awww for the love of %#!@%&$ ... I like that song and I do not relish the thought of hearing Janet sing over a loop of it.


She's gonna sample. Even Madonna samples these days. Everyone samples. shrug At least maybe some people will be turned on to the Jones Girls because of her.



Sample/loop same difference. I don't want a classic r&b song messed up. If people want to get turned on to older music go buy an oldies complilation. And the way Janet's sampling has been handled in the past it's never subtle.
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Reply #94 posted 01/02/06 2:57pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

JanFam said:



She's gonna sample. Even Madonna samples these days. Everyone samples. shrug At least maybe some people will be turned on to the Jones Girls because of her.



Sample/loop same difference. I don't want a classic r&b song messed up. If people want to get turned on to older music go buy an oldies complilation. And the way Janet's sampling has been handled in the past it's never subtle.



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Reply #95 posted 01/02/06 3:02pm

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JanFam said:



She's gonna sample. Even Madonna samples these days. Everyone samples. shrug At least maybe some people will be turned on to the Jones Girls because of her.



Sample/loop same difference. I don't want a classic r&b song messed up. If people want to get turned on to older music go buy an oldies complilation. And the way Janet's sampling has been handled in the past it's never subtle.


Sampling hasn't been subtle for 10 years now. If you don't want it messed up, don't listen to it wink
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Reply #96 posted 01/02/06 3:17pm

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she can sample "you're a grand old flag" or "yanky doodle dandy" as far as i care razz

i just want a hot record that trumps her last two (though i like DJ) and a kick ass tour that is a NEW show without the carnival shit.
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Reply #97 posted 01/02/06 3:24pm

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feeling a bit patriotic today?

lol
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Reply #98 posted 01/02/06 3:51pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




Sample/loop same difference. I don't want a classic r&b song messed up. If people want to get turned on to older music go buy an oldies complilation. And the way Janet's sampling has been handled in the past it's never subtle.


Sampling hasn't been subtle for 10 years now. If you don't want it messed up, don't listen to it wink
[Edited 1/2/06 15:03pm]



That won't be a problem partly because I have no inention of buying her album. However if the song is released as a single it will get played because 1) it's Janet Jackson and 2) it's using a sample of a classic r&B song. Which will make it almost unavoidable.
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Reply #99 posted 01/02/06 3:53pm

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sosgemini said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




Sample/loop same difference. I don't want a classic r&b song messed up. If people want to get turned on to older music go buy an oldies complilation. And the way Janet's sampling has been handled in the past it's never subtle.



lol



What are you laughing at, you know it's true in her case. There are some artists that will use a sample and it's not right in your face. Then there are the people who Janet gets to produce her stuff that rely on the sample to sell the song.
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Reply #100 posted 01/02/06 3:58pm

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VoicesCarry said:



Sampling hasn't been subtle for 10 years now. If you don't want it messed up, don't listen to it wink
[Edited 1/2/06 15:03pm]



That won't be a problem partly because I have no inention of buying her album. However if the song is released as a single it will get played because 1) it's Janet Jackson and 2) it's using a sample of a classic r&B song. Which will make it almost unavoidable.


I understand, but then why did you click on a thread devoted to new album news? It will be easy to avoid if you turn off the radio and MTV. I don't partake of either, myself.
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Reply #101 posted 01/02/06 4:01pm

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Screw ya'll.....I LIKE JD's productions.....they are always very dancable tracks.....


and I bet....on a remix...JD will say "So....So...Def"

or be in a video
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Reply #102 posted 01/02/06 4:07pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




That won't be a problem partly because I have no inention of buying her album. However if the song is released as a single it will get played because 1) it's Janet Jackson and 2) it's using a sample of a classic r&B song. Which will make it almost unavoidable.


I understand, but then why did you click on a thread devoted to new album news? It will be easy to avoid if you turn off the radio and MTV. I don't partake of either, myself.



hmm Wait ... you mean because I have no intention of buying the album I'm not allowed to read or respond to a thread about an album I will most assuredly hear on the radio? confused
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Reply #103 posted 01/02/06 4:09pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

VoicesCarry said:



I understand, but then why did you click on a thread devoted to new album news? It will be easy to avoid if you turn off the radio and MTV. I don't partake of either, myself.



hmm Wait ... you mean because I have no intention of buying the album I'm not allowed to read or respond to a thread about an album I will most assuredly hear on the radio? confused


No, I meant what is the point if you have no interest in it lol

And whatever you do, TURN OFF THE RADIO! evillol It's all trash these days. No wonder you're so worried about hearing this track. The only good stations these days are the stations that play oldies only.
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Reply #104 posted 01/02/06 4:15pm

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VoicesCarry said:

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hmm Wait ... you mean because I have no intention of buying the album I'm not allowed to read or respond to a thread about an album I will most assuredly hear on the radio? confused


No, I meant what is the point if you have no interest in it lol

And whatever you do, TURN OFF THE RADIO! evillol It's all trash these days. No wonder you're so worried about hearing this track. The only good stations these days are the stations that play oldies only.



Actually the title of the thread is not necessarily indicative of what the thread is about. So I didn't know it was about a new release. One could assume ... but hey I'm killing time and it's a fairly short thread. I saw the news of her sampling a song I like and decided to join the thread. Had I not liked the original song I proabably wouldn't have bothered.
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Reply #105 posted 01/02/06 4:18pm

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VoicesCarry said:



No, I meant what is the point if you have no interest in it lol

And whatever you do, TURN OFF THE RADIO! evillol It's all trash these days. No wonder you're so worried about hearing this track. The only good stations these days are the stations that play oldies only.



Actually the title of the thread is not necessarily indicative of what the thread is about. So I didn't know it was about a new release. One could assume ... but hey I'm killing time and it's a fairly short thread. I saw the news of her sampling a song I like and decided to join the thread. Had I not liked the original song I proabably wouldn't have bothered.


CalhounSq has STILL not heard "My Humps" (I only heard it when Yahoo played the video instead of Te Amo Corazon), so you can avoid this, too pray

I am all for sampling because at least the track is going to have a damn melody. lol No one's going to bother writing original melody in the mainstream R&B/pop world, so I take what I can get.
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Reply #106 posted 01/02/06 4:29pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




Actually the title of the thread is not necessarily indicative of what the thread is about. So I didn't know it was about a new release. One could assume ... but hey I'm killing time and it's a fairly short thread. I saw the news of her sampling a song I like and decided to join the thread. Had I not liked the original song I proabably wouldn't have bothered.


CalhounSq has STILL not heard "My Humps" (I only heard it when Yahoo played the video instead of Te Amo Corazon), so you can avoid this, too pray

I am all for sampling because at least the track is going to have a damn melody. lol No one's going to bother writing original melody in the mainstream R&B/pop world, so I take what I can get.
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Good for CalhounSq, the song sucks. lol (And I do take pains to turn the station when that abomination comes on.) But that doesn't have anything do with my radio listenting habits. Sometimes you're some place where you don't have control over what station you're listening to.
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Reply #107 posted 01/02/06 4:32pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

VoicesCarry said:



CalhounSq has STILL not heard "My Humps" (I only heard it when Yahoo played the video instead of Te Amo Corazon), so you can avoid this, too pray

I am all for sampling because at least the track is going to have a damn melody. lol No one's going to bother writing original melody in the mainstream R&B/pop world, so I take what I can get.
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Good for CalhounSq, the song sucks. lol (And I do take pains to turn the station when that abomination comes on.) But that doesn't have anything do with my radio listenting habits. Sometimes you're some place where you don't have control over what station you're listening to.


Well, I can deal with Jones Girls sample. I can't, however, deal with My Humps. I guess we all have our breaking points lol
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Reply #108 posted 01/02/06 4:58pm

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It will be very interesting to see if Janet can still compete with the younger artists she influenced. I think she still has it.
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Reply #109 posted 01/02/06 5:55pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

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lol



What are you laughing at, you know it's true in her case. There are some artists that will use a sample and it's not right in your face. Then there are the people who Janet gets to produce her stuff that rely on the sample to sell the song.



im laughing because its soo true.
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Reply #110 posted 01/02/06 6:35pm

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That article is so December 30th...
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Reply #111 posted 01/02/06 7:30pm

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ThePunisher said:

It will be very interesting to see if Janet can still compete with the younger artists she influenced. I think she still has it.


when janet's back school will be in session for all those dumb R&B whores
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Reply #112 posted 01/02/06 8:15pm

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what;s her point again?
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Reply #113 posted 01/02/06 8:16pm

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badujunkie said:

ThePunisher said:

It will be very interesting to see if Janet can still compete with the younger artists she influenced. I think she still has it.


when janet's back school will be in session for all those dumb R&B whores




oh my god....Janet is one of the most tone deaf singers out there.
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Reply #114 posted 01/02/06 8:35pm

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Milty said:

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when janet's back school will be in session for all those dumb R&B whores




oh my god....Janet is one of the most tone deaf singers out there.


rolleyes no she aint.

and it aint all about singing in popular R&B. it's the videos, moves, showmanship, attitude, fashion, dancing, energy, vibrance, production, writing...and no one's voice can sound as sugar sweet as jan's. NO ONE.
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Reply #115 posted 01/02/06 11:16pm

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oh my god....Janet is one of the most tone deaf singers out there.

rolleyes no she aint.


Actually she is. Don't get me wrong, I do like many Janet Jackson songs and I am not one to value vocal acrobatics at all, but Janet Jackson most definitely is THE least competent female vocalists ever that have had a long-lasting career. The lady can't sing half that much, accept it.
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Reply #116 posted 01/03/06 6:18am

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badujunkie said:


rolleyes no she aint.


Actually she is. Don't get me wrong, I do like many Janet Jackson songs and I am not one to value vocal acrobatics at all, but Janet Jackson most definitely is THE least competent female vocalists ever that have had a long-lasting career. The lady can't sing half that much, accept it.



not having vocal range and being tone deaf are two totally different things folks. come on now.

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Reply #117 posted 01/03/06 7:09am

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Novabreaker said:

badujunkie said:


rolleyes no she aint.


Actually she is. Don't get me wrong, I do like many Janet Jackson songs and I am not one to value vocal acrobatics at all, but Janet Jackson most definitely is THE least competent female vocalists ever that have had a long-lasting career. The lady can't sing half that much, accept it.


Janet is not tone deaf, although she doesn't have much range and she admits this herself. She did hit a high D6 in He Doesn't Know I'm Alive, though. However, the songs she sings do not require a large range and she chooses them wisely to accomodate her voice, which is a hell of a lot better tonally than the likes of Hilary Duff or Lindsay Lohan. There have always been (and will always be) far less competent female vocalists than Janet; if you don't think so, you need to listen to more mainstream pop & R&B from the last 20 years. lol
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Reply #118 posted 01/03/06 7:16am

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VoicesCarry said:

Novabreaker said:



Actually she is. Don't get me wrong, I do like many Janet Jackson songs and I am not one to value vocal acrobatics at all, but Janet Jackson most definitely is THE least competent female vocalists ever that have had a long-lasting career. The lady can't sing half that much, accept it.


Janet is not tone deaf, although she doesn't have much range and she admits this herself. She did hit a high D6 in He Doesn't Know I'm Alive, though. However, the songs she sings do not require a large range and she chooses them wisely to accomodate her voice, which is a hell of a lot better tonally than the likes of Hilary Duff or Lindsay Lohan. There have always been (and will always be) far less competent female vocalists than Janet.
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I thought Janet's vocals were GREAT on "Island Life." I thought that she demonstrated a pretty good range. She doesn't have a powerful voice, per se, but she has a pleasing vocal quality. In a way, her voice is sort of a throw back to someone like Doris Day. Have you all ever seen that old classic movie "Love Me or Leave Me" with Doris Day and Jimmy Cagney(sp??)? Doris was playing singer Ruth Etting. I love that movie along with Pillow Talk!! lol lol lol Anyway, Doris' voice wasn't powerful, but it was very melodic... soothing. Ya know, I sort of think that Janet's facial features, structure resembles Doris Day... obviously Janet being the African American, much, much younger version.
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Reply #119 posted 01/03/06 7:24am

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VoicesCarry said:



Janet is not tone deaf, although she doesn't have much range and she admits this herself. She did hit a high D6 in He Doesn't Know I'm Alive, though. However, the songs she sings do not require a large range and she chooses them wisely to accomodate her voice, which is a hell of a lot better tonally than the likes of Hilary Duff or Lindsay Lohan. There have always been (and will always be) far less competent female vocalists than Janet.
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I thought Janet's vocals were GREAT on "Island Life." I thought that she demonstrated a pretty good range. She doesn't have a powerful voice, per se, but she has a pleasing vocal quality. In a way, her voice is sort of a throw back to someone like Doris Day. Have you all ever seen that old classic movie "Love Me or Leave Me" with Doris Day and Jimmy Cagney(sp??)? Doris was playing singer Ruth Etting. I love that movie along with Pillow Talk!! lol lol lol Anyway, Doris' voice wasn't powerful, but it was very melodic... soothing. Ya know, I sort of think that Janet's facial features, structure resembles Doris Day... obviously Janet being the African American, much, much younger version.
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Oh, Doris was a very powerful vocalist; she's just restrained on "Love Me Or Leave Me". I agree that both Doris & Janet have very unique, pleasant tones.
Janet actually has a range of about 3 octaves (Eb3-E6), although she doesn't have a lot of power. She is technically a lyric mezzo-soprano, but she sings a lot in the soubrette range. Whitney Houston has a similar (3 and 1/8 octave) range, but her voice is a megaphone, so she gets the props.
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