I dont see this album has any legs!!

Plus this CD was heavily promoted and specially in europe
i heard that there were ads runnin all the time

Madonna will not make much money outta it becasue the profits wont kick in until 5mil cds sold!!

Not that madonna cares about money!!

But the record companies do care!!

But the next album would be alot weaker since this time was a challenge for her!!

Here's the full list.

BILLBOARD - TOP 20 ALBUMS
-- 1 EMINEM CURTAIN CALL 440810 999 1878 442690
-- 2 LIL' WAYNE CARTER II 238490 999 821 239312
-- 3 KORN SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE 220756 999 1050 221809
1 4 VARIOUS NOW 20 199284 26 158055 1413519
3 5 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE SOME HEARTS 174035 13 154110 830209
4 6 CHESNEY*KENNY ROAD & THE RADIO 168330 22 137584 1271804
9 7 NICKELBACK ALL THE RIGHT REASONS 152199 45 105172 1396783
7 8 CAREY*MARIAH EMANCIPATION OF MIMI 150974 38 109580 4385184
11 9 BLACK EYED PEAS MONKEY BUSINESS 143446 51 95174 2562463
6 10 ENYA AMARANTINE 139308 21 115516 433693
12 11 CLARKSON*KELLY BREAKAWAY 112278 29 86805 3951500
14 12 CASH*JOHNNY LEGEND OF JOHNNY CASH 102850 26 81744 446807
8 13 MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR 96759 -8 105367 762798
10 14 SYSTEM OF A DOWN HYPNOTIZE 93504 -8 101766 521506
18 15 RASCAL FLATTS FEELS LIKE TODAY 92729 33 69537 3187422
22 16 FALL OUT BOY FROM UNDER THE CORK 92513 61 57519 1290054
19 17 KRALL*DIANA CHRISTMAS SONGS 91426 41 64754 316249
2 18 BROWN*CHRIS CHRIS BROWN 90683 -41 154282 246544
21 19 HILL*FAITH FIREFLIES 87563 52 57521 1229219
-- 20 LOHAN*LINDSAY LITTLE MORE PERSONAL 81696 999 258 81954

The CDs above Madonna are either debuts are CDs that recieved Grammy nominations.

First of all, I'm happy because it's a step up sales-wise from American Life. The woman needs to get over to the US and do some promotion behind the album, and then I'm sure it would sell a few more copies.

Truthfully, this just isn't the type of music that sells over here in the US. For an album of this type, Madonna's sales are pretty damn good. I'm sure a lot of it is due to her fanbase, but after the first week, the fans tend to already own the album.

I think with the proper second single, and some real promotion, Madonna can move about 1.5 to 2 million copies of this album. It won't be a Mariah-style hit, but in this climate, she'd have to release a R&B album to achieve that.

variety1317 said:

The limited edition, maybe (although it's probably very limited and there are maybe one or two in most non-music chain stores like Wal-Mart) and the holiday sales? I think the fact that most artists saw big increases show those are the holiday numbers. Again, Madonna is no a safe gift...Mariah is!

Here's how COADF compares to Madonna's previous three albums after four weeks of sales:

Ray of Light: 881,000
Music: 883,600
American Life: 423,500
Confessions on a Dance Floor: 762,798

variety1317 said:

No they aren't. Enya, Kenny Chesney & the NOW! series certainly don't count. Most of the remainder of the chart is bulleted, too, and they aren't all debuts or Grammy nominees.

variety1317 said:

Interesting. Not great numbers considering the time of year...but considering she is coming back from AL and the fact that dance music is all but dead in America, not bad either.

I thought the Grammy nods would have a larger effect on album sales. U2's still languishing near the bottom of the Top 200, Kanye is barely in the top 40, and Paul McCartney is already out of the top 100. The only Album of the Year nominees that really have maintained a great sales trajectory have been Mariah Carey and Gwen Stefani.

I was pretty disappointed with the overall performance of U2's latest. It had such a huge opening month, but after that, the album started sinking. It's only now crossing the 3 million threshold.

Axchi696 said:

They are just a little to not crunk for Clear Channel...

Well, after one day of release, the iTunes figures are in and Mariah Carey's "Don't Forget About Us" is #4 and Prince's new Te Amo Corazon is #96.

Can't wait to see how asq tries to sugar coat this flop!

DavidEye said:

See, I thought the topic was talking about the U.S. charts. Nothing in my post said anything about worldwide. This whole thread is referring to U.S. sales. It really doesn't matter how well Madonna is doing worldwide. She always does well worldwide. Didn't AL do good worldwide? It means nothing to the media if Madonna's not a hit the U.S. I'm sorry but the U.S. is the biggest market, and the one that matters. For what it's worth she's not doing good in the States right now period.

amit1234 said:

"Don't forget about us" has reached #4 without any downloads (it's #1 on airplay) it will be #1 next week as it was available for download from this tuesday (with 5 remixes available only online)
also All I want for christmas is you" is #1 on the billboard download chart.

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[Edited 12/14/05 20:19pm]

roundables said:

I guess we just have different definitions of what a "successful album" is.No big deal.You think COADF is a flop in America,I disagree.I really don't know what everyone's criteria is for deciding if an album is a hit or not,and honestly,I really don't care anyway.

VoicesCarry said:

Like I just mentioned to roundables,I think we all have different definitions of what a "successful album" in America is.To me,an album is successful if it reaches gold status.If it goes platinum (as 'COADF' is sure to do),that's even better.

"these numbers are below expectations"

Whose expectations? And what exactly were those expectations to begin with? I guess I'm more realistic than most,cause I certainly didn't expect this album to sell like 'Like A Virgin' or 'True Blue'.EVERY artist who has been in the business for a long time will,inevitably,see a drop in record sales.That's life.In my opinion,Madonna is doing well,especially when you consider several factors....She's 47.She's well past her "heyday".Her album is not hip-hop or R&B.Her album is very Euro-sounding.

But like you said,none of this really matters anyway.

DavidEye said:

The profit from the project!!!

If you spend alot of money of course u gonna sell alot more

its all about the money!!

I find it funny that people are ready to declare Confessions on a Dancefloor a flop less than a month after it has been released. It already has outscanned American Life. I think the album will do just fine.

sosgemini said:

I'm pointing out that Madonna is still very successful,even though she (like those other artists) is well past her heyday.Conventional wisdom is that she should be "over" by now.Most of the artists who shared chart space with her in the 80s are not selling records like she is.Call me crazy,but I find it remarkable that she is still enjoying any kind of success in 2005.....it's remarkable that she can still have Number One albums in America,after all this time....it's remarkable that she can go on tour and gross over $124 million,after all this time....Can many of her 80s peers do the same?

Love her or hate her,but at least give her props for still being in the game.

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Moonbeam said:

this CD could sell 25 million copies,and the naysayers on this site would STILL be calling it a "flop"

asg said:

The album has only been out for a month! The second single hasn't even been released.It's too early to be speculating about profits.We'll have this discusssion in a year,when the album has sold all that it's gonna sell.

roundables said:

Bullshit.Worlwide sales may not matter to you,but it certainly matters to Madonna and her record company.Success is success,no matter where it comes from.If COADF sells only 1 million copies in the US,but sells over 7 million copies elsewhere,that is not a "flop" by any stretch of the imagination.Contrary to what you may think,there is a world outside of America.

"it means nothing to the media if Madonna's not a hit in the U.S."

who the fuck cares about the media? In 1983,the media said she would be a one-hit wonder,so what do they know?

DavidEye said:

its true though. no matter how huge it sells worldwide people always only refer to usa sales, even in other countries like australia they use usa sales in articles.

hellomoto said:

America is not Madonna's biggets market anymore,and I think even she and Warners knows this.No big deal,really.As long as copies are being sold,that's all that matters.

DavidEye said:

oh i know, and i agree, but the media is very powerful and if it doesnt sell well in america, the story all over the world would be it flopped, maybe not with madonnas case who knows, but thats usually the story with most articles i read, and most people out there are gullible and believe the media, no matter how false it is. but i guess it shouldnt matter and people shouldnt care if an album is a flop or not, but of course we do.

twink69 said:

That's quite disturbing...."Don't Forget..." didn't even appear on Itunes until this week (I think). Oh, Clear Channel!

DavidEye said:

For success to be a useful categorizer, it must be a relative term. Gold is not success for Madonna or Mariah Carey (especially considering their promotional budgets) - for Carly Simon, maybe.
[Edited 12/15/05 6:18am]

VoicesCarry said:

I would say 2 million is success for Madonna and it's attainable. I think the worldwide sales speak for themseleves, though.