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PrintableBTW, how did a thread that started with System of a Down devolve into a Madonna vs. Mariah thread? Does everybody have to dis one artist in favor of another? If there was a thread about some death speed metal band called Radioactive Puke singing about how they dismembered puppies and used their blood for a Satanic ritual, does it have to end up having someone calling Madonna the spawn of Satan while the Madonna fans say that hell would consist of damned souls listening to Mariah non-stop? Can't we all just get along?
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DavidEye said: asg said: Both mariah and madonna r useless over sexed sluts who use thier body to sell thier records. They have very little to do with what they output!! Let me give u an analogy: When u go to a tailor and tell him what u want and he makes and design the whole outfit and you go back and put ur famous nametag on the clothing and sell it as yours!! I think this is totally wrong!! They have nothing to do with the making or designing of this peice of clothing why they want to take credit for it.  here we go again
Both Mariah and Madonna write the majority of their own lyrics.They also compose melodies.Contrary to what you may think,songwriting is a part of the whole music-making process. They are both in total control of what their music sounds like.Producers don't tell them what to do,how to sing,or what their lyrics should be about.Do not confuse them with "Prince puppets" like Vanity or Apollonia. I can write a song too even when i know nothing about music what makes a song a hit is the whole production!! i am sure if mariah or madonna did the whole song it would be so horrible that listenin to it would be a pain!!! The melodies r selected: just like a tailor would tell u which styles r current and u select the style which u like That is selection and not composition That is exactly what is wrong with the music industry talentless ppl having hits Davideye i must have seen u in san jose i remember u used to hangout in downtown san jose [Edited 12/1/05 10:17am] |
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asg said: DavidEye said: here we go again
Both Mariah and Madonna write the majority of their own lyrics.They also compose melodies.Contrary to what you may think,songwriting is a part of the whole music-making process. They are both in total control of what their music sounds like.Producers don't tell them what to do,how to sing,or what their lyrics should be about.Do not confuse them with "Prince puppets" like Vanity or Apollonia. I can write a song too even when i know nothing about music what makes a song a hit is the whole production!! i am sure if mariah or madonna did the whole song it would be so horrible that listenin to it would be a pain!!! The melodies r selected: just like a tailor would tell u which styles r current and u select the style which u like That is selection and not composition That is exactly what is wrong with the music industry talentless ppl having hits Davideye i must have seen u in san jose i remember u used to hangout in downtown san jose [Edited 12/1/05 10:17am] did you read the Erotica diaries from Shep Pettibone when i posted them again. Madonna comes up with the melodies. and there are several songs espically from the first album she wrote on her own. just because you have opinion that someone is talentless doesn't make it true. espcially there are countless of interviews from people that say otherwise. [Edited 12/1/05 10:20am] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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728huey said: roundables said:
jayaredee said:
Just stop why would Mariah Carey ever do dance music. That's not a genre of music she's ever expressed any interest in. You act like people doing songs with ODB in 1996 was the thing to do. You act like that woman didn't see a steady decline in sales making more R&B music. If she cared about sales why didn't she continue making albums like Music Box? Why did she switch from adult contemporary music that was selling on huge level to playing w/ R&B music. I know that such a tagline for Madonna fans, but it has too many holes in it. Is Madonna just releasing dance music because she knows it's huge in Europe? She's so concerned w/ her status and sales there that's the type of music she does. I'm thinking she does dance music because that's what she likes. And, the same goes for Mariah. That whole argument is so tired and obviously not true. Mariah has expressed interest in dance music, and she still does. She's done club remixes of her songs and re-recorded her singles for club play. (If you don't remember this, then pick up her remixes album and play the first CD.) A lot of artists' "dance" mixes are basically their original pop vocal tracks redone over a club beat, but Mariah doesn't do this. She has always done new vocals and different arrangements on her dance mixes. (Just ask David Morales and Junior Vasquez.) Her first preference is for the R&B and hip hop market, but she has done her fair share of dance remixes.  But, do you ever hear her raving about the latest dance song? Do you ever hear her shout out her favorite dance artist. That's what I mean about it not being a genre she's expressed interest in. | |
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Has anyone noticed that Madonna gets procuder credit on many of her albums?  | |
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GangstaFam said: Has anyone noticed that Madonna gets procuder credit on many of her albums?
since into the groove You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: since into the groove
I don't know why some folks still feel the need to discuss it then. | |
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FunkyBrotha said: Madonna no 4 after 2 weeks, Mariah no 6 after 38 weeks. The Emancipation of Mimi is gonna be certified 5xplatinum very soon. Worldwide sales r over 8million, lets see who is the queen of pop.
Yeah, Mariah's album had to be rereleased. Madonna only had one album that tanked hard vs. Mariah's two ("Glitter" and "Charmbarclet"). It's this really a debate? | |
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VinnyM27 said: FunkyBrotha said: Madonna no 4 after 2 weeks, Mariah no 6 after 38 weeks. The Emancipation of Mimi is gonna be certified 5xplatinum very soon. Worldwide sales r over 8million, lets see who is the queen of pop.
Yeah, Mariah's album had to be rereleased. Madonna only had one album that tanked hard vs. Mariah's two ("Glitter" and "Charmbarclet"). It's this really a debate? Sorry, but since when is selling 1.1 million domestically a flop. Those aren't blockbuster numbers, but it's not a flop either. | |
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roundables said: VinnyM27 said: Yeah, Mariah's album had to be rereleased. Madonna only had one album that tanked hard vs. Mariah's two ("Glitter" and "Charmbarclet"). It's this really a debate? Sorry, but since when is selling 1.1 million domestically a flop. Those aren't blockbuster numbers, but it's not a flop either. If the album in question costs $28 million, it's a flop! | |
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VinnyM27 said: roundables said: Sorry, but since when is selling 1.1 million domestically a flop. Those aren't blockbuster numbers, but it's not a flop either. If the album in question costs $28 million, it's a flop! You really need to check facts before posting. The 28 million budget came w/ the Glitter album on Virgin. Pearlnecklace sold 1.1 million and was her first album on IDJ. I can assure you there was no 28 million budget for that album. So, that again leaves Glitter as Mariah's only huge flop. Pearlnecklace like I said was no blockbuster, but it wasn't a flop either. | |
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asg said:[quote] DavidEye said: Davideye i must have seen u in san jose i remember u used to hangout in downtown san jose [Edited 12/1/05 10:17am] stalker alert!  , | |
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asg said: DavidEye said: here we go again
Both Mariah and Madonna write the majority of their own lyrics.They also compose melodies.Contrary to what you may think,songwriting is a part of the whole music-making process. They are both in total control of what their music sounds like.Producers don't tell them what to do,how to sing,or what their lyrics should be about.Do not confuse them with "Prince puppets" like Vanity or Apollonia. I can write a song too even when i know nothing about music what makes a song a hit is the whole production!! i am sure if mariah or madonna did the whole song it would be so horrible that listenin to it would be a pain!!! The melodies r selected: just like a tailor would tell u which styles r current and u select the style which u like That is selection and not composition That is exactly what is wrong with the music industry talentless ppl having hits Davideye i must have seen u in san jose i remember u used to hangout in downtown san jose So,you're basically saying that it takes no talent to write lyrics? 
Yes,the other things are very important too (the production,the instruments,etc),but so are the words and the melody! All of these elements contribute to the making of the song.I just don't see how you can dismiss Madonna and Mariah as being "talentless". | |
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GangstaFam said: Has anyone noticed that Madonna gets produer credit on many of her albums?
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Diskery stock spikes on higher '05 sales By Steven Zeitchik Madonna is helping Warner Music get into the groove The company's stock price on Thursday spiked to its highest point since going public in May after it reported strong sales and robust digital growth in its fiscal fourth quarter ended Sept.30. The Material Girl,Green Day,Faith Hill and Staind were among the artists whose sales goosed revenue in the fourth quarter by $107 million,or 13%,to $905 million.Analysts had expected revenue to rise only about $15 million. Losses at Warner Music also fell drastically,to $30 million from $137 million. Comparisons are tempered because 2004 was an especially poor year for the recorded music industry. Company's stock price rose $1 to close at $19.05. The news offers hope for a music industry that has been battered in recent years and suggests that a company that keeps a lid on costs,remains flexible on digital formats and relies on a smaller number of tentpole albums can flourish. In addition to Madonna,whose "Confessions On A Dancefloor" has so far sold more than 4 million copies worldwide,the label was helped by an impressive comeback for Green Day.Lackluster sales for previous albums from the pop-punk band were quickly forgotten with "American Idiot",which has sold more than 10 million copies worldwide since coming out in late 2004. Madonna's sales were keyed in part by a promotional strategy that saw the label roll out the album in stages,such as promotions and sales through iTunes and downloadable ringtones. | |
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