Janfriend said:

Please. I looked whiter than that at the same age. Now I'm about the complexion of Eric Benet-- damn I need a better example.

Anyway, those kids aren't MJ's biologically. You've got to remember MJ pre-Thriller. There's simply no trace of him in any of those kids and believe me there would be something.

whodknee said:

i know what you mean and i agree. when i was a baby i looked like prince did in that first picture, blonde hair, pale skin.


now that im 16 my hair and complexion is brown and i have fairly dark skin


HOWEVER, i dont believe these are his kids, because they have no features of michaels anywhere, NOTHING that remotely looks like him. them being white has nothing do do with them not being michaels.

Ok..not one but TWO of MJ's kids look pure caucasian. My mother had two more children ..one with acaucasian/french/black guy, and my sister has a black father..

THEY HAVE FEATURES of black EVEN THOUGH my mom is probably only 20% black....They don't even have curly hair! Come on now Michael.

But u know what I don't care though...what about the 3rd child? Isnt that one's mother a black woman? THis one may have the signs after all..we'll wait n see.

sosgemini said:

Well, say dark skin or black man...Darkie is a derogatory word...cool?

hellomoto said:

Great point Katty...I think people have it twisted a little bit...It's not so much the ultra light complextion of the kids, it's the fact that they share none of MJ's features...You've hit it right on the head....

hellomoto said:

As usual? I don't thik I ever do. Notice that I said fanatics. I know that fan is derived from the word fanatics, but I'm talking about the loons.

RipHer2Shreds said:

i didnt mean you literally, i meant 'you' as in people in general, but i get what you are saying now, although i still dont remeber anyone saying that

hellomoto said:

Admit it - you did mean me! I wasn't referring to anyone in particular. If I did, I would surely have referenced the post. We've had several threads on this topic in the past and often it becomes an argument that they are his biological kids. This time, it didn't...yet. I'm an MJ fan, and have been for 20+ years now, but it can sometimes be a bit much here in the MJ/Madonna/Janet forum. I've limited my visits to MJ-related threads because they can get out of control (as can others, I realize). Perhaps I will work on my not so positive MJ comments.

How could Michael think that people were going to believe that these are his kids?


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Look at Princ' eyes. They look like Jackson-eyes. Could be a coincidence.
But what about Boris Becker's third child. She looks exactly like him. Light skin, red hair. But her mother is black. No one in public would say that this kid has a black mother. So it's absolutley possible that the children are completley white. Beacuse Michael has also white genes in his DNA.

Invincible1958 said:

Your name gives you away

No surprises here.None of us truly believed that those kids are really Michael's.It's obvious that he bought those kids,just like he "bought" Debbie Rowe as his wife.I don't even know he still tries to pretend anymore,lying about all his surgeries,etc.The truth is out.


Why is there always some controversy surrounding MJ,Janet and their "children"? Why can't they just have children (with no mystery or drama) like everyone else? If you believe the tabloids,Janet has an 18-year old daughter,lol.


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DavidEye said:

:confused:

why are we blaming janet for tabloid fodder? lets not forget she gave a detailed interview disproving the daughter rumor many many years ago.

should madge be held accountable for all the horrid rumors said about her? should she be forced to continue to discuss it and refute it years and years latter?

potroastpony said:

Do you think MJ really cares what people think?
I think he wanted kids & he got them.
He doesn't really care if the public believes
their his biological kids or not - to him they are his kids.
period.
He paid for them.
Stop fixating on their skin color & hair & eyes.

sosgemini said:

I think that is exactly what DavidEye was saying. Why can't they just have children and be left alone? Does it really make a difference? I laugh, because MJ does seem to imply that those are his biological children, but I don't think he needed to make an issue of it in the first place. He doesn't owe the tabloids an explanation. If he wanted white kids, it's his business, however silly that may be.

thedoorkeeper said:

Oh, but I DO think MJ cares what people think. If he didn't, he just woulda said "yeah, I wanted white kids so I got a sperm donor. What's it to ya?". Instead, he tried to claim that the children were conceived naturally by him and Rowe. If he DIDN'T care what people thought, he wouldn't be making an issue of it.

JediMaster said:

When I say MJ doesn't care what people think I mean MJ put forth the "story" that he is the natural father to these children & he is sticking to that story & if you don't believe it then thats your problem.

JediMaster said:

i re-read his post and i still see it as a dig on mj and janet...cant wait for his clarification.

Somebody call social services!

As far as I know, Debbie TESTIFIED at court during recent child abuse alegations that MJ IS the biological father of the children. Why would she wanna go to tabloids now and claim something else?

dag said:

we really dont read all posts within these threads, do we?

somebody already mentioned this is a bogus story.

no I don´t, sorry. Don´t have that much time to be online.

RipHer2Shreds said:

no, no i REALLY WASNT meaning you literally, i REALLY DID mean people in general here like to stereotype them all. REALLY

TotalAlisa said:

Tell'em girl!!! Talk the truth...

sosgemini said:

Unlees Debbie's as big a fibber as Michael, then we'd never knwo for sure...

whodknee said:

I wasn't talking about complexion. I have people in my family who have passed for white. Those kids ain't black

Invincible1958 said:

That child's mother, Angela Ermakova, is half Russian, so it's not surprising the child came out looking the way she did

The jury will always be out. I dont think MJ should have to legitimise his children to the world, but if he is, as I would suspect, dying his kids hair, he has to be prepared for the Q's to be asked.

There is a shot in the Martin Bashir documentary where Prince's hair looks like its been straightened and dyed (spookily to look a little like Macauly Culkins when he was a kid).

Then again, what are the chances that all 3 of his kids are produced with predominantly white features??? I dont know anything about genetics, so im guessing here, but i would have thought it highly unlikely.

Since those kids don't have any of his blood, I bet he's doing something to that boy.

sosgemini said:

Madonna has two children.We know who their fathers are.Their race is no mystery.How they were conceived is no mystery.She has never tried to hide them,or lie about them during interviews.No mystery,so no news story.See how easy that is?

My point is: MJ creates all this media nonsense by lying and shielding his children.He's making it more of an issue than it has to be.Lots of celebrities have children,they raise them,and go about their business.Why can't he do the same? Just be honest and upfront and no one will care anyway.


As for Janet,she simply needs to issue a STRONG denial and even threaten to sue the DeBarges if they keep spreading those rumors.I guarantee there would be no more mystery and no more rumors if she did this.