prettymansson said:

how exactly is he lowering his stantards? whats so bad about john legend?

Takes Mansoon's ashes and makes dust cloud out of them.

here's more superior standard moments of Prince:




Keep it nice and quiet, keep it nice and quiet

What the hell was that?

(Hey y'all, I thought we bust this new hype before)
All across the land
(New dance commercial take 2)
Rio, Marbella - we gettin' stupid
ha, Germany, Paris France - we gettin' stupid
yeah, Stockholm Sweden, we love ya

Let me shed, it's easier said code red
Bust the new groove just hyped 4 the jughead
Bass thumpin' everybody's doin the bumpin'
Oops, I slipped on a move
I think it's time 2 bust somethin'
Sleazy, but cool and easy
("Is this the right one?")
Yeah - this is 4 the hood
Better keep it greasy
Better yet on a smooth tip
I don't wanna sweat
I want my slimmie 2 get with this
Move your head and shoulders from side 2 side
Take your back foot, and then u let it slide
Yo, in a fade motion, lots of attitude, coast 2 coast
Then u're floatin' homeboys boastin' -
U made his skeeze freeze
U've been chosen, P
Ladies and gentlemen, NPG introduces the...

Jughead (Jughead)
Yeah, we gettin' funky in the house tonite
Kickin' the jughead (Doin' the jughead)
Come on, get stupid, get stupid
Kickin' the jughead (jughead)
Oh yeah, we gettin' funky in the house tonite
Kickin' the jughead, yeah (Doin' the jughead)

Wait a minute, what's he doin'? (get stupid, get stupid)

Well, Mack daddy in the house over there
What u doin' dawg?
("Gettin' busy G, kickin' the jughead")
Yeah, baby's gettin' busy in my face
Cold housin' a future
Everything has been well placed
This daddy's 2 fly
He bust the jughead as he floats to the other side
U watch the rotation, there's a bit of hesitation
This is some new hype stuff u're facin'

U gotta come with a new git
The J-U-G-H-E-A-D, and I'm flowin' with it
U could say I'm on a roll
NPG and y'all, and we're gettin' bold, oh
Yes - bold steps must be taken
2 bump a nation their scrutiny is what I'm facin'
As u pump the volume to what I'm sayin'
U'd catch me dead before you catch me
Doin' anything but the...

Jughead (Jughead)
Yeah, we gettin' funky in the house tonite
Kickin' the jughead (Doin' the jughead)
Get stupid, get stupid
Kickin' the jughead (jughead)
Yo, yo, we gettin' funky in the house tonite
Kickin' the jughead, ha ha (Doin' the jughead)

(get stupid, get stupid)

Don't worry if you're lookin' silly
Look over here at me, workin' 4 Willie (check it out man, check it out)
Gettin' busy in the corner (Oh yes, is that Levi?!)
Holdin' my own - u think I'm posin'
I'm just frozen on an upbeat
Clockin' a freak in a low pro
U know - discreet
Baby was laughing
But before a "no" was even said
She's on the dance floor
Next beat kickin' the jughead (jughead)

Yeah - (get funky in the house tonight)
Get funky
Kickin' the jughead (Doin' the jughead)
(come on, come on)
Get stupid, get stupid
Kickin' the jughead (well, jughead)
What's up with that?
(Dis one's mine, T) (get funky in the house tonite)
Huh, I thought so, yeah (jughead)
(get stupid, get stupid)
Yo - Margaya (jughead)
Yeah - we gettin' funky (get funky in the house tonite)
Yeah - say Rio - yeah, (doin' the jughead)
What about New York? - yeah (get stupid, get stupid)
LA? - yeah (well, jughead)
get funky - yeah (get funky in the house tonite)
Atlanta, G.A. - yeah (doin' the jughead)
We gettin' funky in the house tonight (get stupid, get stupid)

Yeah, homey, kick it just like that
Yeah, homey, kick it just like that
Yeah, homey, kick it just like that (yeah)
Yeah, homey, kick it just like that
Yeah, homey, kick it just like that (go)
Yeah, homey, kick it just like that (go)
Yeah, homey, kick it just like that
Yeah, homey, kick it just like that

(jughead)
Boy, we gettin' international
In the house (gettin' funky in the house tonight)
That's right
We gettin' international
In the house

We want this one 2 go worldwide
Huh, that's right worldwide
Not state-side

Give it up...

M... P... L... S...
Who turn the mother out?

M... P... L... S
Who turn the mother out?

and the classic outtake that never got to radio or the clubs M.c. Prince
Work the P

Tevin, wake up! (What?)
Telephone – U (Who is it?)
One of your friends, I don't know, come on (Tell'em I got a con…)
Get up, son! (I… I can't talk now, I'm sleepy… I… I just wanna sleep)
Psyche! {x2}
T.E.V.I.N. in the Lion's Den
And we ain't gonna stop till we bust it in - dance!

Oh! {x3}

Midnight – the bewitching hour
My fantasies – now we got the power
And the car keys so I'm asking U please
How many ways can U work the P?
Sound man, could U pump the bass?
I need some walkin' music while I'm scopin' this place
Oh! This is a funky room
Oh! I think I see the boom
But some cuties like it when U tell the truth
So I waste no time when I take her 2 the booth
I say - "Oh, U wanna be with me
How many ways can U work the P?"

How many ways can U work the P?
Oh!
How many ways can U work the P? {x2}

I see another cutie lookin' straight at me
She got more boom that a little bit – see?
And I ain't with that cuz she 2 fat
So I give her 2 my buddy cuz it's like that
5 foot 3 or 4 is much better
And if she wanna dance, then I'm a go-getter
And work that, work that – see?
How many ways can U work the P?

Oh! How many ways can U work the P? {x2}

Baby got a brother won't leave her alone
I pay the sound man, say he's wanted on the phone
That's all the funky time I need
My car got gas and it's built 4 leanin'
Questions about protection – please!
I gotta be in love before I get knee deep
Real love takes time 2 satisfy
But if U can work the P, then we'll try

We'll try
How many ways can U work the P?
Oh! Yeah
3 minutes – work out
Ebony American coppin' all the hoes!
[Edited 11/3/05 11:58am]

let's add some more. did you know he's the bone ranger?
another great standard moment in Prince superior standard history

how about 18 n over

8 & over, I wants 2 bone ya (yeah, baby)
18 & over (oh yeah, this is gonna be good)
18 & over, I wants 2 bone ya (yeah, baby)
18 & over (oh yeah, this is gonna be good)

Now wait a minute

This ain�t nothin� but a little funky mac song
All I�m sayin� is that I wanna smack it all night long
On and on until the early morn�
Givin� up all u need so u can get your groove on
And as long as I got your attention (yeah)
There�s a couple of new positions that I�d like 2 mention
Did u ever hear the one about the pinwheel? (no)
That�s the one where I put your legs behind your head
And real dirty like, i�ma spin u around
And grab u by the waist and pump u �til I hear my baby say
"oww!"
That�s what I know u like
I�m your nigga now about 2 read your rights
And as sure as I�m a nasty boy (what? )
My girl, u know u got the right 2 make plenty noise (oh!)
Cuz this is your night and I�m gonna do u real good
Just like a kimosabi, bone ranger should
Come

18 & over, I wants 2 bone ya
18 & over (oh yeah, this is gonna be good)
Come
18 & over, I wants 2 bone ya
18 & over (oh yeah, this is gonna be good)

And [arrive]

That�s what we layin� 4 in the 9 5
As long we know it�s safe, we ain�t riskin� no lives (yeah)
My doctor�s name is feelgood, makin� it so I do
And if your name is "healthy" then it�s cool with me
and u
Just come - yeah baby, u should do all that
Come - yeah baby

(oh yeah, this is gonna be good)
18 & over, I wants 2 bone ya
18 & over

Hi yo silver, it�s the bone ranger, I�ll freak u 2 the marrow
With a little somethin� that I call the wheelbarrow
Walkin� up on your hands while I straddle your thighs
In goes the truth and out goes the lie
And before the beach gets 2 sandy (uh oh)
We�ll call a wet towel, w.c. is handy
And it�s all nice, comin� one, comin� twice
And if the johnny�s sick, we�ll have 2 take the trip 2
electricity
And check out the sights (check out the sights)
And check out the sights

When I blow that mind, baby (all night, alright)
I�m gonna drive u crazy (all night, alright)

(oh yeah, this is gonna be good)
18 & over, I wants 2 bone ya
18 & over

Electricity (electricity)

Plug it in if u dare, plug it in if u dare
This motherf**ker�s so fast, it eats underwear
So there, my little sweet sugar bear
If that ain�t enough 2 make u throw your hands in the air
Then I�m all gone like the horns in this song (oh oh oh oh!)
Cuz I gots 2 keep u comin� �til the early morn�
And if u like that, then u can come back
And if u don�t smack and I�m out

18 & over, I wants 2 bone ya

When I blow that mind, baby (all night, alright)
I�m gonna drive u crazy (all night, alright)

18 & over, I wants 2 bone ya
18 & over (oh yeah, this is gonna be good)
18 & over, I wants 2 bone ya

"bone ranger"

kisscamille said:

I'd take tacky over bland any day.

CalhounSq said:

It does 2 me . What's wrong with his original name "John Stephens" ?!
Calling himself "Legend" started 4 him as a joke ... then he seriously thought 2 use it 4 real :

"I originally was given the name John Legend by a friend from Chicago because he thought I sounded so much like an old school artist ," John confesses . "At first, I thought it was funny to be called 'Legend' but then a lot of my friends started calling me that and it really caught on so much that more people were calling me 'Legend' than my real name . So I started to consider using it as my stage name .I knew it sounded a little presumptuous, but I figured it would definitely make me stand out from the pack .I figured it would make people pay attention to me . And once I havetheir attention , I hope to make them fall in love with my music . By being "John Legend". I put some pressure on myself but I'm gonna try to live up to it and I hope my music will live up to it ."

http://www.sing365.com/mu...33000EE60C

Talented guy indeed and proved to be a good composer too , but that presumptous attitude won't get me lifted .

He gave a concert sometime ago in a venue around here . Started to play some famous recent urban-hits from other artists . After every intro he shouted things like "That was me !" or "That was me too !".....

... whatever . How about some modesty ?
[Edited 11/3/05 14:16pm]

sosgemini said:

I think u fail to realize that Prince actually worked with people he could write pop music for. After all, prince was a pop artist last time i checked.


John legend is nothing but a stevie wonder clone. A dull one at that. So called soul indeed. It ain't sophisticated, it ain't clever, and can be seen in many a small club.

BlaqueKnight said:

Um, no.

thesexofit said:

and werent people initially calling prince a clone? give the guy some time...at least he isnt being overly hyped like alicia keyes and josh stone.

sosgemini said:

I hate alicia even more then john. U heard her interviewed, what a twat. She spouts typical drivle that i dont even need to find a quote. Shit like "i want to connect so deeply to all my fans" "i want them to feel the songs" kinda shit. As for her music, well, again its aimed squarely at snobs who love to ponder about the technical side of music in small jazz clubs. Failing to realize again, that her shit is over 20 years old.

Nothing wrong in liking her, but her, john, jose...all of them have that hype that they are so above pop music.

CalhounSq said:

I don't either. Maybe I'm too old skool, but as a woman who grew up in a musical household, and a person who still tries to venture out musically once in a while, I'M JUST HAPPY TO SEE SOME OF THESE YOUNG FOLKS PLAY ACTUAL MUSIC...I saw the young man on the Video Awards in Lisbon and I was so pleased to see him there as a person with an ability to sing, proficiently play his instrument, harmonize with band members and the like...I'm just over having to endure all this "crunk" madness...dance music is one thing (I can even tolerate pop songs like Madonna's ABBA-esque "Hung Up") but so much of R&B is so lifeless for me now, I was about to give up on these children with the exception of people like Legend and few others...

CalhounSq said:

sorry y'all: double post
[Edited 11/3/05 15:39pm]

sosgemini said:

those people sucked too...

Trickology said:[quote]Takes Mansoon's ashes and makes dust cloud out of them.

u sure sound stupid ...I stand behind what i said...as a man that knows JL has worked with and for him and a man that hates YES HATES !!!! all r&b (today) and all the people that make it...u try to hang out with kanye west for 5 mins and u will know why i said what i said about JL...(they are best buds) ...make your ignorant ashes jokes about the people here that believe the hype...or are too musically ignorant to know that JL couldnt even shine a real old school singer /songwriters shoes...ala bill withers,stevie wonder,curtis mayfield....and YES i too am very aware that prince has made many stupid choices in people to work with....but it seems to me at least he was getting some ass for his efforts...there aint a damn thing prince could gain from working with JL..
[Edited 11/3/05 16:45pm]

prettymansson said:[quote]

Trickology said:

bad day today?

JL is tight period. His sound has been heard before - that much is true. But that shouldn't stand to tarnish his talent. In an era when so many new artists can't even play an instrument, nevermind write their own songs, he is a throwback. You can criticize his voice, name, or whatever but dude has skillz.

Great debut album and I'm sure he'll bring more to the table in the future. Time has a way of revealing true talent. I would hate to see a similar forum discussion on Prince following his debut album. He didn't become the Prince we all appreciate with one album. Polled back then, most people here would say that that Prince dude is aiiight, nothing special though. Hell I've heard several people on this forum state that they didn't get turned on to Prince until his 3rd, 4th, or 5th album.

Give ol' boy a little time my people before we trash him completely.

sosgemini said:[quote]

prettymansson said:

[Edited 11/3/05 17:29pm]

BlaqueKnight said:

The name is just icing on the crapcake. I just find his music very lifeless and dull and his voice ear-splitting. So he can play the piano. So can Jamie Cullum.

Moonbeam said:

Me, too. Dude makes me

Moonbeam said:

You f'd up my punchline.

Why didn't you say lifeless and plain instead?


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

theAudience said:

OK then. I just find his music lifeless and plain...

I won't "hate" on John Legend because I think he is talented. But IMO he's the male counterpart to Alicia Keys. His album is very sample-heavy. I can't acknowledge him as a saviour of modern R&B just because he plays piano and can sing a nice hook. I can't get past Ordinary People being a bite off of D'Angelo's 'Africa'... if you've heard the acoustic piano version of 'Africa' then you should know what I'm talking about.

But hopefully he along with Ms. Keys will get some of that artist development that's so lacking in all music right now. We all get so caught up in trying to spot the next big thing that we never give the artist room to grow. I'm gonna give him a chance because one day he might do something that's a masterpiece.

MarcusGreen395 said:

co sign. IMO the prince and for u albums are not the shit, they're ok. i think for u is wayyyyy better than prince - but dirty mind shits on them both. give the boy sometime

Moonbeam said:

Then I could say...



..."Motherf*ck him and John Wayne!"

See, now it's not funny.




Just joking of course.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

theAudience said:

Yes it is!!!!! I don't know why I didn't see that coming.
[Edited 11/3/05 18:37pm]

100MPH said:

I can't throw him out for the name. He blew me away opening for Jill Scott... dude has me

psykosoul said:

Well said Soul.

I haven't listened to much of his music but what i've heard hasn't really touched me.
Listening to his performance on the BET Anniversary show, his voice became annoying to me at times.

As you said though, growth over time might bring some surprises.
Maybe writing, instead of performing, is his forte.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

BlaqueKnight said:

THAT is my song!! So High really grabs me too.

I think y'all are being some picky muthafuckas, probably don't like much R&B anyway. John is cool w/ me

CalhounSq said:

Yup, I love R&B. I just don't love John.