GangstaFam said:

WB r paying payola where do u think the 20mil in promotion budget is goin to!!

The problem is with the video with her pale ass!! it just doesnt click


releasing a physical single doesnt help it counts the same as a download and alot few ppl r goin to buy a physical single!!

The current formula is each download is equal to 2000 audience
[Edited 11/3/05 10:53am]

newpower99 said:

um...

CinisterCee said:

sorry..the non- hard core fans.

count mein as one of the freaks

ehuffnsd said:

Clear Channel already got its payola in the form of the tour last year.

ehuffnsd said:

that's so true and so pathetic. as if young people have a one-track mind and can't decide what to like. that's clear channel for you.

I clicked the sample on ITunes & clicked that shit off within 3 seconds

CalhounSq said:

Sounds like you're the only who did that because the song is still #1 in almost every country (except the USA) according iTunes.

ok...can someone tell me what constitutes an official #1 nowadays?

Billboard
Airplay
Sales
iTunes
Downloads (pay per song)
Downloads (stealing)

or is it a combination of all?

amit1234 said:

Yea, people have bad taste

CalhounSq said:

Yeah, those who don't like "Hung Up".

CHIC0 said:

included
Radio airplay
physical single sales
paid downloads

physical sales and paid downlaods r the same value
each song sold equals to 2000 audience for airplay

not included
song sharing (stealing) - although this data is also complied by someone out there but not billboard
subscirption downloads- thru the monthly subcription on yahoo or napster this data is also compilted by billbaord callin it something like taddered downloads

Moonbeam said:

And you call John Legend "lifeless & plain"???

CalhounSq said:

Now now. Be nice kids.

CalhounSq said:

Call it what you want, but Madonna isn't boring.

Madonna will be top 10 number i don't know... but clubs are picking this song up for sure

Moonbeam said:

asg said:

thank you asg.

The album which is coming out on nov 15 will most likely not debut at #1

50cents soundtrack album is projected to sell 1million just one week before

and even if it declines substantial madonna is unlikely to have a #1 album

asg said:

that sucks.

Still havent heard it 2 this day

GangstaFam said:

We shall see. with Itunes and Amazon and record stores she might have a chance. i know people who are to embarassed to walk into a store and buy a Madonna album but they will buy it online.

ehuffnsd said:

Actually the album has already leaked so there must be ppl gettin it illegally
WB might release it faster becasue of this

physical cd sales thru amazon are only included in the internet albums chart
i dont think the itunes albums sales r included.

American life had first week sales of 241k
[Edited 11/4/05 9:40am]

asg said:

according to who?

asg said:

If she would have released a good maxi single by now...That is just a damn shame is what it is. I don't know the future of the song for sure, but it would help if it was available on places other than Itunes, wouldn't it? I think this was sort of a failed opportunity and the single might come back slightly, but I have to doubt a Top ten at this point.

Let's just say that old white women don't beneift from Affrimative Action like they used to! She is not getting the love on radio she used to.

ehuffnsd said:

I don't think she is releasing a normal single, is she?

asg said:

iTunes album sales are counted in Billboard charts.

asg said:

If twenty million is truly being spent promothing this album, somone is pocketing like $17 million. Unless the occasional appearance and performance costs all that much money, the money is not being spent!

asg said:

I think 50 Cent's days at the top are numbered. The lastest album sold incredibly in it's first week, but people got sick of it not to long after. I would be shocked if the album sells a million in the first week. I think Clear Channel O'ded on him...and maybe his last payola check bounced becuase surprisingly I haven't heard his new song on the hit music station (sadly haven't heard Madonna's either).

VoicesCarry said:

i dont know if it counts towards to the main album top 200 album charts


but at this moment its inconsequential because albums just contribute 2% of total money spend on itunes. and singles have a 98% share.

itunes have contributed to the demise of the album sales already down 10% this year alone


however the sale thru amazon might be counted becoz soundscan counts sale to retailers!!
[Edited 11/4/05 15:15pm]

VinnyM27 said:

yes 50s first single came and went very fast and didnt have any success
but the second single window shopper is just a copy of candy shop!! its just as boring but its doin better but nothing to talk about


hung up is being released as a normal physical single

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hung_Up

boston globe reported WB is spending 20million for marketin this album
[Edited 11/4/05 15:24pm]