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lastdecember

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Mariah to take Top Selling CD of the year

As of Right now Mariah stands about 1.1 Million behind 50 Cents Massacre as the top selling CD of 2005. However with the Xmas season approaching AND the Re Issue of the Emancipation Of Mimi, which will count as the same CD, Although the DVD Deluxe Version will not, the Version Without the DVD will, which is about 3 dollars cheaper but Mariahs Longtime Fans will want the DVD for Unreleased Videos not shown in the USA. The XMAS season tends to be more favorable towards Artists like Mariah, Elton, Rod Stewart, etc.. and not Kind to Rap artists at all, Im not really sure why they still continue to push out Rap CDs right at the wire and they get lost in the shuffle. I talked to a Universal Rep and as of Right now the Preorder on the Emancipation of Mimi is almost to ship 1.1 Million first week, and since its about 2 weeks before the holiday kick off, Emancipation should be the seasons Strongest Seller, and with The Single Dont FOrget About us, moving quickly with airplay, I think Mariah is a sinch to beat 50 cent (thank god!) and most likely finish the year out over 5 million sold, not bad for someone that "experts" were calling FINISHED!

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Reply #1 posted 10/23/05 4:42am

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Mariah is a scamming the chart system agian!! she did it with 64cents singles which made billboard to change the rules.

Persoanlly i think she isnt very talented she is a oppurtuniust at every turn of the way.

If she hadnt married mattola she wouldnt would have gone away long time back
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Reply #2 posted 10/23/05 4:47am

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asq - Would you like some sour grapes to go along with your whine?
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Reply #3 posted 10/23/05 6:43am

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asg said:

Mariah is a scamming the chart system agian!! she did it with 64cents singles which made billboard to change the rules.

Persoanlly i think she isnt very talented she is a oppurtuniust at every turn of the way.

If she hadnt married mattola she wouldnt would have gone away long time back


Now now, Mariah is an amazing vocalist, well at least she was.

The thing with her is that she's a cookie cutter radio artist and has her songs in heavy rotation because of it. Which is why she does so well in the US. US radio tends to love uninspired r&b.
Also having a rapper on all your songs helps sells your albums.

So yes she is indeed an opportunitist. If the musical climate in the US was techno, god knows Mariah would be in there with the best of em.
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Reply #4 posted 10/23/05 11:01am

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I am so sick and tired of Mariah constantly using that singy-songy-rappy thing to carry her melodies such as she did back in '97 with Bone Thugs n Harmony.
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Reply #5 posted 10/23/05 11:11am

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asg said:

Mariah is a scamming the chart system agian!! she did it with 64cents singles which made billboard to change the rules.

Persoanlly i think she isnt very talented she is a oppurtuniust at every turn of the way.

If she hadnt married mattola she wouldnt would have gone away long time back


I don't understand how she can scam with the album. The cheap singles were absurd, I agree! I don't like all these Deluxe/Special/Nifty edtions much either, but why not make them count toward the total. I don't think it's going to sell as well as she or anyone else thinks....
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Reply #6 posted 10/23/05 11:51am

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I think it's so wrong to top the sales because 1 fan buys 3 different editions when the product is almost the same.

I love her, don't get me wrong, but she herself could buy the cd's and unfortunately that would count anyways.


Now, the question is: How many people have bought the cd?

Something's wrong with the numbers eek
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Reply #7 posted 10/23/05 2:09pm

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Just for everyone to also remember, 50 CENT who has the top selling cd of this year also has a Re-issue recently which is why that CD all of sudden flew into the top 10 again for a few weeks. And another note would be that Soundscan does not track what the Consumer buys, it tracks what stores order and re order, there is no method to track what the "public" is actually buying, Labels also give stores discounts to buy certain CDs too, which is a form of "payola" when u look at it.

I think with the Lack-of of releases this season it clearly shows why Universal is banking on a Re-issue being one of its strongest sellers. All in all the industry is forecasting a 10-15% drop between this year and last year, but thats there own faults

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Reply #8 posted 10/23/05 4:27pm

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lets not forget the world picture here, worldwide MIMI is already the top selling album this year with sales approaching 7million, im guessing with the re-issue, the xmas season and a lot of awards coming mariahs way that could easily reach 9million by the end of the year!
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Reply #9 posted 10/23/05 5:01pm

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Give my man Ricky Martin some time. It is only October and his new CD is selling like hotcakes. We'll see who's ahead at the end of the year.
All good things they say never last...
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Reply #10 posted 10/23/05 5:04pm

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No. James Blunt is the top selling CD of the year.

Oh sorry, I guess you were assuming the world worships US sales!
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Reply #11 posted 10/23/05 5:05pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

No. James Blunt is the top selling CD of the year.

Oh sorry, I guess you were assuming the world worships US sales!


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Reply #12 posted 10/23/05 6:57pm

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Well as U can tell with my Favorite CDs right now, the USA is last on my list with knowing whats good.

Top Rotation For me Right Now

SIMPLE MINDS Black N White
HOWARD JONES Revolution
BERLIN 4play
MAGNE F past Present Future Tense
A-ha Celice (cd single)
DEPECHE MODE playing

And in a few weeks With the New A-ha CD, the New DUran Duran, the New Eurythmics, Danni Minogue, Bananarama


All of these releases will do Good worldwide numbers, especially the Danni and A-ha, and Eurythmics releases, only the Duran and Eurythmics will be released in the USA, as for my top rotation, the Simple Minds disc isnt coming here, the Howard Jones Disc is impossible to find here, A-ha, MAGNE F are imports only, and BERLIN is only available through their website, only Depeche is available here and will probably not sell much in the USA, kind of Like REM in that respect 100,000-200,000.

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Reply #13 posted 10/25/05 2:24pm

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GottaLetitgo said:

Give my man Ricky Martin some time. It is only October and his new CD is selling like hotcakes. We'll see who's ahead at the end of the year.


Uh, no. It sold like 70,000 copies. I think it needs some prayer before it gets to 3 million, let alone a million. Again, not an artist that I wish harm to, it's just this CD is not going to be a huge seller (not here anyway).
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Reply #14 posted 10/25/05 2:26pm

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lastdecember said:

Well as U can tell with my Favorite CDs right now, the USA is last on my list with knowing whats good.

Top Rotation For me Right Now

SIMPLE MINDS Black N White
HOWARD JONES Revolution
BERLIN 4play
MAGNE F past Present Future Tense
A-ha Celice (cd single)
DEPECHE MODE playing

And in a few weeks With the New A-ha CD, the New DUran Duran, the New Eurythmics, Danni Minogue, Bananarama


All of these releases will do Good worldwide numbers, especially the Danni and A-ha, and Eurythmics releases, only the Duran and Eurythmics will be released in the USA, as for my top rotation, the Simple Minds disc isnt coming here, the Howard Jones Disc is impossible to find here, A-ha, MAGNE F are imports only, and BERLIN is only available through their website, only Depeche is available here and will probably not sell much in the USA, kind of Like REM in that respect 100,000-200,000.



In a few weeks Dannii is relasing a new one? Will Ultra (a US dance label that released "Neon Nights" after the fact) be releasing it hopefully close to the time it comes out in Europe?
A lot of these new releases sound very good.....
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Reply #15 posted 10/25/05 2:39pm

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asg said:

Persoanlly i think she isnt very talented she is a oppurtuniust at every turn of the way.


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Reply #16 posted 10/25/05 2:54pm

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VinnyM27 said:

lastdecember said:

Well as U can tell with my Favorite CDs right now, the USA is last on my list with knowing whats good.

Top Rotation For me Right Now

SIMPLE MINDS Black N White
HOWARD JONES Revolution
BERLIN 4play
MAGNE F past Present Future Tense
A-ha Celice (cd single)
DEPECHE MODE playing

And in a few weeks With the New A-ha CD, the New DUran Duran, the New Eurythmics, Danni Minogue, Bananarama


All of these releases will do Good worldwide numbers, especially the Danni and A-ha, and Eurythmics releases, only the Duran and Eurythmics will be released in the USA, as for my top rotation, the Simple Minds disc isnt coming here, the Howard Jones Disc is impossible to find here, A-ha, MAGNE F are imports only, and BERLIN is only available through their website, only Depeche is available here and will probably not sell much in the USA, kind of Like REM in that respect 100,000-200,000.



In a few weeks Dannii is relasing a new one? Will Ultra (a US dance label that released "Neon Nights" after the fact) be releasing it hopefully close to the time it comes out in Europe?
A lot of these new releases sound very good.....


Dannii's album won't be out until 2006.
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Reply #17 posted 10/25/05 3:07pm

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Moonbeam said:

VinnyM27 said:




In a few weeks Dannii is relasing a new one? Will Ultra (a US dance label that released "Neon Nights" after the fact) be releasing it hopefully close to the time it comes out in Europe?
A lot of these new releases sound very good.....


Dannii's album won't be out until 2006.


In American or elsewhere?
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Reply #18 posted 10/25/05 3:09pm

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VinnyM27 said:

Moonbeam said:



Dannii's album won't be out until 2006.


In American or elsewhere?


Anywhere. I think they are going to release another single beforehand. "Perfection" only hit number 11 in the UK, so they better come up with a plan...

Apparently "I Can't Sleep At Night" was prepped to be the single but was yanked for "Perfection." God only knows why. lol I think the next single will be out early next year and the album will follow- perhaps in spring.
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Reply #19 posted 10/25/05 3:15pm

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lastdecember said:

As of Right now Mariah stands about 1.1 Million behind 50 Cents Massacre as the top selling CD of 2005. However with the Xmas season approaching AND the Re Issue of the Emancipation Of Mimi, which will count as the same CD, Although the DVD Deluxe Version will not, the Version Without the DVD will, which is about 3 dollars cheaper but Mariahs Longtime Fans will want the DVD for Unreleased Videos not shown in the USA. The XMAS season tends to be more favorable towards Artists like Mariah, Elton, Rod Stewart, etc.. and not Kind to Rap artists at all, Im not really sure why they still continue to push out Rap CDs right at the wire and they get lost in the shuffle. I talked to a Universal Rep and as of Right now the Preorder on the Emancipation of Mimi is almost to ship 1.1 Million first week, and since its about 2 weeks before the holiday kick off, Emancipation should be the seasons Strongest Seller, and with The Single Dont FOrget About us, moving quickly with airplay, I think Mariah is a sinch to beat 50 cent (thank god!) and most likely finish the year out over 5 million sold, not bad for someone that "experts" were calling FINISHED!



Man, you are so anti rap and 50 it reeks (and I don't even like rap. you got me so mad that I'm sticking up for 50)
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Please get Mariah out of your ass please.
'Christmas is not kind to rap at all'
'a sinch to beat 50 (thank god!)'

If you are going to bring God into the mix, the G is upper case

50 re-released his cd with a video for every track on the cd (a creative first)and now Mariah is re-releasing hers, and for really no good reason. There are still good singles to release from Mimi. Is this just to rip fans for more money like Usher did? And who cares who sales the most? Remember that the movies that sell the most tickets, do not walk away with the most Oscars.


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[Edited 10/25/05 15:17pm]
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Reply #20 posted 10/25/05 3:39pm

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Moonbeam said:

VinnyM27 said:



In American or elsewhere?


Anywhere. I think they are going to release another single beforehand. "Perfection" only hit number 11 in the UK, so they better come up with a plan...

Apparently "I Can't Sleep At Night" was prepped to be the single but was yanked for "Perfection." God only knows why. lol I think the next single will be out early next year and the album will follow- perhaps in spring.


Is there anywhere I can hear part of "Perfection". I refuse to pay $13 for a song I haven't even heard, especially since I'll probably buy the album, too.
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Reply #21 posted 10/25/05 3:43pm

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jthad1129 said:

lastdecember said:

As of Right now Mariah stands about 1.1 Million behind 50 Cents Massacre as the top selling CD of 2005. However with the Xmas season approaching AND the Re Issue of the Emancipation Of Mimi, which will count as the same CD, Although the DVD Deluxe Version will not, the Version Without the DVD will, which is about 3 dollars cheaper but Mariahs Longtime Fans will want the DVD for Unreleased Videos not shown in the USA. The XMAS season tends to be more favorable towards Artists like Mariah, Elton, Rod Stewart, etc.. and not Kind to Rap artists at all, Im not really sure why they still continue to push out Rap CDs right at the wire and they get lost in the shuffle. I talked to a Universal Rep and as of Right now the Preorder on the Emancipation of Mimi is almost to ship 1.1 Million first week, and since its about 2 weeks before the holiday kick off, Emancipation should be the seasons Strongest Seller, and with The Single Dont FOrget About us, moving quickly with airplay, I think Mariah is a sinch to beat 50 cent (thank god!) and most likely finish the year out over 5 million sold, not bad for someone that "experts" were calling FINISHED!



Man, you are so anti rap and 50 it reeks (and I don't even like rap. you got me so mad that I'm sticking up for 50)
confused
Please get Mariah out of your ass please.
'Christmas is not kind to rap at all'
'a sinch to beat 50 (thank god!)'

If you are going to bring God into the mix, the G is upper case

50 re-released his cd with a video for every track on the cd (a creative first)and now Mariah is re-releasing hers, and for really no good reason. There are still good singles to release from Mimi. Is this just to rip fans for more money like Usher did? And who cares who sales the most? Remember that the movies that sell the most tickets, do not walk away with the most Oscars.


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I don't think releasing a video for every song is all the unique. I think Olvia Newton JOhn, someone who obviously influenced 50, did it with one of her eighties albums (I believe "Physical"). It was mentioned here. I like the fact that 50's rerelease is justifed and Mariah's isn't. 50 could have released a DVD only to fans and not make them buy the album again! How convienant that they will inflate the album sales! Didn't he say he would die if this album didn't sell as much as the last...well, even Clear Channel's few months of only 50 couldn't make it bigger than his last one! I almost think that's worse than what Mariah is doing. Almost...
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Reply #22 posted 10/25/05 5:32pm

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VinnyM27 said:

Moonbeam said:



Anywhere. I think they are going to release another single beforehand. "Perfection" only hit number 11 in the UK, so they better come up with a plan...

Apparently "I Can't Sleep At Night" was prepped to be the single but was yanked for "Perfection." God only knows why. lol I think the next single will be out early next year and the album will follow- perhaps in spring.


Is there anywhere I can hear part of "Perfection". I refuse to pay $13 for a song I haven't even heard, especially since I'll probably buy the album, too.


I think you can still find the video here.
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Reply #23 posted 10/25/05 7:13pm

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Moonbeam said:

VinnyM27 said:



Is there anywhere I can hear part of "Perfection". I refuse to pay $13 for a song I haven't even heard, especially since I'll probably buy the album, too.


I think you can still find the video here.
[Edited 10/25/05 17:42pm]



Thanks but it doesn't seem to be working....ah...let me try Explorer!

NOt a very good song...Even worse video. That dance will not catch on in a million....ever!
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Reply #24 posted 10/25/05 8:12pm

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Everyone re releases albums, her label is doing it because they want it to compete in the christmas market. Madonna already has 2 versions of her album planned with extra track before it is released. If people don't want the new one, they won't buy it, no big deal.
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Reply #25 posted 10/26/05 12:37am

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jthad1129 said:

lastdecember said:

As of Right now Mariah stands about 1.1 Million behind 50 Cents Massacre as the top selling CD of 2005. However with the Xmas season approaching AND the Re Issue of the Emancipation Of Mimi, which will count as the same CD, Although the DVD Deluxe Version will not, the Version Without the DVD will, which is about 3 dollars cheaper but Mariahs Longtime Fans will want the DVD for Unreleased Videos not shown in the USA. The XMAS season tends to be more favorable towards Artists like Mariah, Elton, Rod Stewart, etc.. and not Kind to Rap artists at all, Im not really sure why they still continue to push out Rap CDs right at the wire and they get lost in the shuffle. I talked to a Universal Rep and as of Right now the Preorder on the Emancipation of Mimi is almost to ship 1.1 Million first week, and since its about 2 weeks before the holiday kick off, Emancipation should be the seasons Strongest Seller, and with The Single Dont FOrget About us, moving quickly with airplay, I think Mariah is a sinch to beat 50 cent (thank god!) and most likely finish the year out over 5 million sold, not bad for someone that "experts" were calling FINISHED!



Man, you are so anti rap and 50 it reeks (and I don't even like rap. you got me so mad that I'm sticking up for 50)
confused
Please get Mariah out of your ass please.
'Christmas is not kind to rap at all'
'a sinch to beat 50 (thank god!)'

If you are going to bring God into the mix, the G is upper case

50 re-released his cd with a video for every track on the cd (a creative first)and now Mariah is re-releasing hers, and for really no good reason. There are still good singles to release from Mimi. Is this just to rip fans for more money like Usher did? And who cares who sales the most? Remember that the movies that sell the most tickets, do not walk away with the most Oscars.


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No Actually Im just Anti-Crap. 50 cent is Crap, anyone who likes "real Rap" doesnt even consider 50 cent a real voice in Rap. Also in my CRAP mix would be bands like Nickelback, Good Charolette and all these 80's rip off bands like the Bravery etc. Also 50 CENT was not the First to Release a video for every track, Billy Joel did it back in 1979 for Glass Houses, and he didnt wait till his album came out and then rerelease it to rip off his fans.

True I could care less who sells the most, actually I hate it when anything i like sells, I was just sticking up for Mariah because everyone cashed her in a few years ago and everyone is on her shit again.

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