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Reply #120 posted 10/21/05 10:50am

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nod i think he's the only person who can really dish it back to her and gets her sense of humour. they should host a show together. lol

My entire day would revolve around a show like that!
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Reply #121 posted 10/21/05 10:55am

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I missed last night but they always have an interesting chemistry. Mentally, she seems to return to New York when she's with Letterman, yknow? Even if it makes her squirm a bit.
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Reply #122 posted 10/21/05 11:27am

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badujunkie said:

Bedtime stories rules.

Sassy...you say "Love Tried to Welcome me" is BEAT??? WHAT THE FUCK????? Top 5 best Madonna ballads, easily. And "Forbidden Love" and "Sanctuary" are better that "Ok"...both album track classics.

And I love "Survival." "Inside of Me" is one of her best songs period.

I love that record too. Especially when you factor in some of the other material assosciated with it like "I'll Remember", "I Want You", "You'll See" and "Let Down Your Guard". I think her batch of songs from '94/'95 is among the best of her career.


You're my new best friend. Someone sees the light! So many Madonna fans even diss Bedtime Stories. And I agree--94/95 was her creative peak as far as her reperatoire. Although Erotica is still my fave. It's too bad she cancelled her tour in 95...that woulda been the shit.

Anyone who doesn't know her cover of "I want you" is missing Madge at her best.
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Reply #123 posted 10/21/05 11:29am

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Anyone who doesn't know her cover of "I want you" is missing Madge at her best.

Among my top 5 Madonna songs. wink
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Reply #124 posted 10/21/05 11:34am

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Word.. Madonna with Massive Attack in 1995... smile
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Reply #125 posted 10/21/05 11:51am

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GangstaFam said:

badujunkie said:

Bedtime stories rules.

Sassy...you say "Love Tried to Welcome me" is BEAT??? WHAT THE FUCK????? Top 5 best Madonna ballads, easily. And "Forbidden Love" and "Sanctuary" are better that "Ok"...both album track classics.

And I love "Survival." "Inside of Me" is one of her best songs period.

I love that record too. Especially when you factor in some of the other material assosciated with it like "I'll Remember", "I Want You", "You'll See" and "Let Down Your Guard". I think her batch of songs from '94/'95 is among the best of her career.

I agree! Even though there are a few songs on Bedtime Story that I don't care for (Survivor is one that comes to mind - never a favorite), I love that whole period. Let Down Your Guard is a really fun, pseudo-TLC track, and her reworking of I Want You with Massive Attack is brilliant. Love those house mixes, too!
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Reply #126 posted 10/21/05 12:03pm

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I agree! Even though there are a few songs on Bedtime Story that I don't care for (Survivor is one that comes to mind - never a favorite), I love that whole period. Let Down Your Guard is a really fun, pseudo-TLC track, and her reworking of I Want You with Massive Attack is brilliant. Love those house mixes, too!
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I even love Survival! The only songs from that whole batch that I don't have much use for are "One More Chance" and sometimes "Love Tried To Welcome Me" is a drag in that stretch of ballads. Other than that, I at least like everything else. Most of it I love.
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Reply #127 posted 10/21/05 12:09pm

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love Bedtime Stories love
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Reply #128 posted 10/21/05 12:20pm

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Oh and I love Music too.
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Reply #129 posted 10/21/05 12:37pm

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Reply #130 posted 10/21/05 1:21pm

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I missed it! What happened????


I didn't see all of it, but she just seemed really stiff and uncomfortable, especially when Letterman made her ride a horse (which was kind of funny). I don't know, there was just something very off about her. Sassy, can you explain it better?

the impression i got was she could not remember which "madonna" she was going to be for the interview. its not secret that she is the queen of reinvention and thaat everything she says or does should be taken somewhat with a grain of salt. that said, i think she's begun to belive her own bullshit. one second she's telling us that even thinking about sex is equal to having sex because "you are what you think" (a play, apparantly, on you are what you eat). the next second she's showing her cleavage to the camera. she was very flaky and jumped from topic to topic (as is usual on letterman because he's such a lazy host) while saying very little at all.

without actually seeing her jump from personality to personality and character to character its difficult to explain. nonetheless, we sat here wondering what in the world she was trying to do. it was like she went on there determined to be the "new and improved" madonna whom she's been peddling in recent years but deep down she knows people want the old madonna. so instead of being herself she changed personas every few seconds to keep everyone happy. it was just all very odd.

makes me wonder if madonna really knows who she is. it left me a little sad for her (rthough i did enjoy the whole bit).
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Reply #131 posted 10/21/05 1:53pm

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the impression i got was she could not remember which "madonna" she was going to be for the interview. its not secret that she is the queen of reinvention and thaat everything she says or does should be taken somewhat with a grain of salt. that said, i think she's begun to belive her own bullshit. one second she's telling us that even thinking about sex is equal to having sex because "you are what you think" (a play, apparantly, on you are what you eat). the next second she's showing her cleavage to the camera. she was very flaky and jumped from topic to topic (as is usual on letterman because he's such a lazy host) while saying very little at all.

without actually seeing her jump from personality to personality and character to character its difficult to explain. nonetheless, we sat here wondering what in the world she was trying to do. it was like she went on there determined to be the "new and improved" madonna whom she's been peddling in recent years but deep down she knows people want the old madonna. so instead of being herself she changed personas every few seconds to keep everyone happy. it was just all very odd.

makes me wonder if madonna really knows who she is. it left me a little sad for her (rthough i did enjoy the whole bit).

I didn't get ANY of that.
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Reply #132 posted 10/21/05 2:14pm

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GangstaFam said:

SassyBritches said:

the impression i got was she could not remember which "madonna" she was going to be for the interview. its not secret that she is the queen of reinvention and thaat everything she says or does should be taken somewhat with a grain of salt. that said, i think she's begun to belive her own bullshit. one second she's telling us that even thinking about sex is equal to having sex because "you are what you think" (a play, apparantly, on you are what you eat). the next second she's showing her cleavage to the camera. she was very flaky and jumped from topic to topic (as is usual on letterman because he's such a lazy host) while saying very little at all.

without actually seeing her jump from personality to personality and character to character its difficult to explain. nonetheless, we sat here wondering what in the world she was trying to do. it was like she went on there determined to be the "new and improved" madonna whom she's been peddling in recent years but deep down she knows people want the old madonna. so instead of being herself she changed personas every few seconds to keep everyone happy. it was just all very odd.

makes me wonder if madonna really knows who she is. it left me a little sad for her (rthough i did enjoy the whole bit).

I didn't get ANY of that.



Me neither. All I picked up on was what ehuffnsd said, the same nervous tension they always have where they're both pretty on guard and letting it down to throw a barb at the other one. The interaction seemed pretty typical of all their other interviews. I thought it was great.
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Reply #133 posted 10/21/05 2:34pm

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SassyBritches said:

MendesCity said:



I didn't see all of it, but she just seemed really stiff and uncomfortable, especially when Letterman made her ride a horse (which was kind of funny). I don't know, there was just something very off about her. Sassy, can you explain it better?

the impression i got was she could not remember which "madonna" she was going to be for the interview. its not secret that she is the queen of reinvention and thaat everything she says or does should be taken somewhat with a grain of salt. that said, i think she's begun to belive her own bullshit. one second she's telling us that even thinking about sex is equal to having sex because "you are what you think" (a play, apparantly, on you are what you eat). the next second she's showing her cleavage to the camera. she was very flaky and jumped from topic to topic (as is usual on letterman because he's such a lazy host) while saying very little at all.

without actually seeing her jump from personality to personality and character to character its difficult to explain. nonetheless, we sat here wondering what in the world she was trying to do. it was like she went on there determined to be the "new and improved" madonna whom she's been peddling in recent years but deep down she knows people want the old madonna. so instead of being herself she changed personas every few seconds to keep everyone happy. it was just all very odd.

makes me wonder if madonna really knows who she is. it left me a little sad for her (rthough i did enjoy the whole bit).


WOW. That's a bit scary, if that's what u truly derive from
the Letterman Interview. If I hadn't read u b4 (on this forum),
I'd say it's as if u almost don't have a sense of humour, at all.
[Edited 10/21/05 14:35pm]
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Reply #134 posted 10/21/05 3:29pm

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SassyBritches said:

MendesCity said:



I didn't see all of it, but she just seemed really stiff and uncomfortable, especially when Letterman made her ride a horse (which was kind of funny). I don't know, there was just something very off about her. Sassy, can you explain it better?

the impression i got was she could not remember which "madonna" she was going to be for the interview. its not secret that she is the queen of reinvention and thaat everything she says or does should be taken somewhat with a grain of salt. that said, i think she's begun to belive her own bullshit. one second she's telling us that even thinking about sex is equal to having sex because "you are what you think" (a play, apparantly, on you are what you eat). the next second she's showing her cleavage to the camera. she was very flaky and jumped from topic to topic (as is usual on letterman because he's such a lazy host) while saying very little at all.

without actually seeing her jump from personality to personality and character to character its difficult to explain. nonetheless, we sat here wondering what in the world she was trying to do. it was like she went on there determined to be the "new and improved" madonna whom she's been peddling in recent years but deep down she knows people want the old madonna. so instead of being herself she changed personas every few seconds to keep everyone happy. it was just all very odd.

makes me wonder if madonna really knows who she is. it left me a little sad for her (rthough i did enjoy the whole bit).



Are you serious ? I think we're reading into things too much.
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Reply #135 posted 10/21/05 4:22pm

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I finally heard "Hung Up" on the radio about an hour ago and it's even better. I find that songs, especially dance songs, sound better on the radio and this is a clear example of that. I can't wait to Confess!
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Reply #136 posted 10/21/05 4:38pm

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MendesCity said:

SassyBritches said:

just watched ol' girl on david letterman.

is she schizophrenic? just wonderin'.


riight? that was weird. and sad.


I didn't think it was a terrible appearance. If this is the worst appearance she does, she'll be fine.
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Reply #137 posted 10/21/05 4:41pm

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Has anybody noticed the line from Lovesong on Hung up?
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Reply #138 posted 10/21/05 4:44pm

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SassyBritches said:

MendesCity said:



I didn't see all of it, but she just seemed really stiff and uncomfortable, especially when Letterman made her ride a horse (which was kind of funny). I don't know, there was just something very off about her. Sassy, can you explain it better?

the impression i got was she could not remember which "madonna" she was going to be for the interview. its not secret that she is the queen of reinvention and thaat everything she says or does should be taken somewhat with a grain of salt. that said, i think she's begun to belive her own bullshit. one second she's telling us that even thinking about sex is equal to having sex because "you are what you think" (a play, apparantly, on you are what you eat). the next second she's showing her cleavage to the camera. she was very flaky and jumped from topic to topic (as is usual on letterman because he's such a lazy host) while saying very little at all.

without actually seeing her jump from personality to personality and character to character its difficult to explain. nonetheless, we sat here wondering what in the world she was trying to do. it was like she went on there determined to be the "new and improved" madonna whom she's been peddling in recent years but deep down she knows people want the old madonna. so instead of being herself she changed personas every few seconds to keep everyone happy. it was just all very odd.

makes me wonder if madonna really knows who she is. it left me a little sad for her (rthough i did enjoy the whole bit).


You were concerned because Madonna gave a cleavage shot. You are gay!

I thought that was great (her body looks better than ever!). She was a little bit of out of it, but no, she didn't go Farah. I've seen about six dozen other woman who looked a hellvu more uncomfotable than Madonna did.
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Reply #139 posted 10/21/05 4:45pm

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purplecam said:

I finally heard "Hung Up" on the radio about an hour ago and it's even better. I find that songs, especially dance songs, sound better on the radio and this is a clear example of that. I can't wait to Confess!


Still waiting to hear it on radio. I don't think it will happen here!
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Reply #140 posted 10/21/05 4:54pm

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SassyBritches said:

MendesCity said:



I didn't see all of it, but she just seemed really stiff and uncomfortable, especially when Letterman made her ride a horse (which was kind of funny). I don't know, there was just something very off about her. Sassy, can you explain it better?

the impression i got was she could not remember which "madonna" she was going to be for the interview. its not secret that she is the queen of reinvention and thaat everything she says or does should be taken somewhat with a grain of salt. that said, i think she's begun to belive her own bullshit. one second she's telling us that even thinking about sex is equal to having sex because "you are what you think" (a play, apparantly, on you are what you eat). the next second she's showing her cleavage to the camera. she was very flaky and jumped from topic to topic (as is usual on letterman because he's such a lazy host) while saying very little at all.

without actually seeing her jump from personality to personality and character to character its difficult to explain. nonetheless, we sat here wondering what in the world she was trying to do. it was like she went on there determined to be the "new and improved" madonna whom she's been peddling in recent years but deep down she knows people want the old madonna. so instead of being herself she changed personas every few seconds to keep everyone happy. it was just all very odd.

makes me wonder if madonna really knows who she is. it left me a little sad for her (rthough i did enjoy the whole bit).


it's Madonna on Letterman.
She was that way when she appeared with Sandra in 89
She was that way when she appeared in 1994
She was that way when she appeared in 2001
She was that way when she appeared in 2003

he took jabs at her before she came out about her being clean and taking showers. Jokes that go back to the Fincident.

she always comes clothes to saying a curse word or to sexual to make him uncomfatable.

it's what they do. Madge and Letterman have always been just really random. Alot of it is inside jokes. Hell Madge probably called up yesterday said she was in town and wanted to appeared and they scrapped the show they had planned. alot of it is inside jokes and carry over from previous interviews so if you've missed on it's hard to follow along.
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Reply #141 posted 10/21/05 6:40pm

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SassyBritches said:

VinnyM27 said:



You don't like "Bedtime Stories"....that is almost worse than being a Republican. No, atually, it is worse!


"Bedtime Stories" did a have a lot of samples but they were subtle. The book claims she samples Aaliyah's "Back and Forth" on "Secret" but I can't hear it! I do like the Abba sample (I'm not familar with the song but I bet I know what the sample is) but it does sound like overkill by sampling very well known songs. Some make sense like "I Feel Love" (Donna deserves the check!). But I mean, "Can You Feel It". That's going to be really good or really bad!

lol

there's too much filler on that record for my liking. survival is a lame ass opening track. don't stop is beat. love tried to welcome me is beat. i'd rather be your lover is kinda lame.

basically the album gives us secret, bedtime story, take a bow, and human nature. forbidden love is ok. sanctuary is ok. human nature is ok. all in all, its a weak follow up to erotica.

this is, of course, all in my opinion. innocent



I think it's a bit underrated. It's a very slow album save a few tracks...but at the same time lush and organic. Very short sweet and to the point I think. It's not a powerhouse album but it's not supposed to be.

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Reply #142 posted 10/21/05 6:42pm

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GangstaFam said:

badujunkie said:

Bedtime stories rules.

Sassy...you say "Love Tried to Welcome me" is BEAT??? WHAT THE FUCK????? Top 5 best Madonna ballads, easily. And "Forbidden Love" and "Sanctuary" are better that "Ok"...both album track classics.

And I love "Survival." "Inside of Me" is one of her best songs period.

I love that record too. Especially when you factor in some of the other material assosciated with it like "I'll Remember", "I Want You", "You'll See" and "Let Down Your Guard". I think her batch of songs from '94/'95 is among the best of her career.


I personally think her entire 90's out put was her best so far.

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Reply #143 posted 10/21/05 6:44pm

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GangstaFam said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

I agree! Even though there are a few songs on Bedtime Story that I don't care for (Survivor is one that comes to mind - never a favorite), I love that whole period. Let Down Your Guard is a really fun, pseudo-TLC track, and her reworking of I Want You with Massive Attack is brilliant. Love those house mixes, too!
dancing jig

I even love Survival! The only songs from that whole batch that I don't have much use for are "One More Chance" and sometimes "Love Tried To Welcome Me" is a drag in that stretch of ballads. Other than that, I at least like everything else. Most of it I love.


Survival sets the TONE of that album. If you don't like that song...you're probably not going to like the album.

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Reply #144 posted 10/21/05 6:46pm

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variety1317 said:

SassyBritches said:


the impression i got was she could not remember which "madonna" she was going to be for the interview. its not secret that she is the queen of reinvention and thaat everything she says or does should be taken somewhat with a grain of salt. that said, i think she's begun to belive her own bullshit. one second she's telling us that even thinking about sex is equal to having sex because "you are what you think" (a play, apparantly, on you are what you eat). the next second she's showing her cleavage to the camera. she was very flaky and jumped from topic to topic (as is usual on letterman because he's such a lazy host) while saying very little at all.

without actually seeing her jump from personality to personality and character to character its difficult to explain. nonetheless, we sat here wondering what in the world she was trying to do. it was like she went on there determined to be the "new and improved" madonna whom she's been peddling in recent years but deep down she knows people want the old madonna. so instead of being herself she changed personas every few seconds to keep everyone happy. it was just all very odd.

makes me wonder if madonna really knows who she is. it left me a little sad for her (rthough i did enjoy the whole bit).



Are you serious ? I think we're reading into things too much.


co-sign. they banter all the time. it's their schtick.

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Reply #145 posted 10/21/05 6:47pm

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JackofallTrades said:

Has anybody noticed the line from Lovesong on Hung up?


yeah somewhere rond here someone mentioned it. she also uses Love song on another song on the album.

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Reply #146 posted 10/21/05 8:01pm

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superspaceboy said:

JackofallTrades said:

Has anybody noticed the line from Lovesong on Hung up?


yeah somewhere rond here someone mentioned it. she also uses Love song on another song on the album.


Do you really think she uses it in "I Love New York". I think the interviewer screwed up and meant "Hung Up" and Madonna, who is kind of flaky about detials sometimes, didn't catch it.
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Reply #147 posted 10/21/05 8:48pm

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GangstaFam said:


I even love Survival! The only songs from that whole batch that I don't have much use for are "One More Chance" and sometimes "Love Tried To Welcome Me" is a drag in that stretch of ballads. Other than that, I at least like everything else. Most of it I love.


Survival sets the TONE of that album. If you don't like that song...you're probably not going to like the album.

Not for me. That is to say, I don't like Survival, but the Bedtime Stories album, as a whole, is one of my favorites of hers. So many good songs on there. It was sort of her R&B experiment, and it worked. That I'd Rather Be Your Lover outtake with the rap by Tupac is odd, but I even like that!
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Reply #148 posted 10/21/05 9:07pm

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The documentary was fantastic!
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Reply #149 posted 10/21/05 9:18pm

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The documentary was fantastic!



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