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Reply #90 posted 10/05/05 6:28am

CrozzaUK

DavidEye said:

The song has been building momentum for weeks.The ringtone is available,and the song is featured in a commercial and on her official website.In addition,the song's producer (Stuart Price) has just "leaked" a lengthy instrumental version.I suspect that the previous leaks were intentionally done by Madonna's camp,to hype up the fanbase.This is all part of a strategy to build momentum for the song.When it officially debuts on radio October 17,the hype will be tremendous.The video is being shot today through October 8,and will premiere everywhere on October 24.I think Warners is making all the right decisions this time around.


I agree, the gradual release of info and clips has been very well manouvered by Warner. Everything from the initial clips to the tracklisting to the production info and the front cover. Warner Bros seem a lot more confident about this record than they did AL, that practically had a cloud over it before it was released.

Im enjoying the hype of the record, and i think the signs are much better than AL, but only time will tell if the product lives up to the hype.....I've a feeling it will.
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Reply #91 posted 10/05/05 6:43am

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CrozzaUK said:

DavidEye said:

The song has been building momentum for weeks.The ringtone is available,and the song is featured in a commercial and on her official website.In addition,the song's producer (Stuart Price) has just "leaked" a lengthy instrumental version.I suspect that the previous leaks were intentionally done by Madonna's camp,to hype up the fanbase.This is all part of a strategy to build momentum for the song.When it officially debuts on radio October 17,the hype will be tremendous.The video is being shot today through October 8,and will premiere everywhere on October 24.I think Warners is making all the right decisions this time around.


I agree, the gradual release of info and clips has been very well manouvered by Warner. Everything from the initial clips to the tracklisting to the production info and the front cover. Warner Bros seem a lot more confident about this record than they did AL, that practically had a cloud over it before it was released.

Im enjoying the hype of the record, and i think the signs are much better than AL, but only time will tell if the product lives up to the hype.....I've a feeling it will.



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Reply #92 posted 10/05/05 9:10am

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stevenpottle said:

BRAND NEW TRACK INCLUDED ON LIMITED EDITION!!!

According to the current listings of Warner Music Group, the bonus track will be called "FIGHTING SPIRIT".

Details about the Limited Edition have not been announced yet, but it is understood that it will contain a one-month introductory membership to Madonna's fan club.

Warner has also changed the release date for the album's Limited Edition, that is now set for December 13 2005.

"Confessions" will be released as CD, LP, Limited Edition CD and Digital Music Download.
The album will receive a massive TV and print advertising campaign, and street, online and club marketing will be extensive.




This is great news! I was really disappointed with the Limited Edition of 'American Life'.....who needs some silly postage stamps and a large fold-out poster of the boring album cover art? Fans want a bonus track or two.I'm sure the packaging will be lavish and nice too.


For the record her special editions normally are just better packaging, at least from what I have seen. She's gonna have to have something REALLY special to get me to buy it twice. Although I will be getting the vinyl regardless boxed

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Reply #93 posted 10/05/05 9:12am

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I don't get the promotional angle they are taking, the album is out in 1 month and the song has not even hit airwaves?? They are not allowing enough time for the song to build momentum before the album is released?


I heard she delayed the single release because the video had to be delayed due to her injuries.

And who releases 2 singles before an album comes out anymore?

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Reply #94 posted 10/05/05 9:14am

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twink69 said:

I don't get the promotional angle they are taking, the album is out in 1 month and the song has not even hit airwaves?? They are not allowing enough time for the song to build momentum before the album is released?



The song has been building momentum for weeks.The ringtone is available,and the song is featured in a commercial and on her official website.In addition,the song's producer (Stuart Price) has just "leaked" a lengthy instrumental version.I suspect that the previous leaks were intentionally done by Madonna's camp,to hype up the fanbase.This is all part of a strategy to build momentum for the song.When it officially debuts on radio October 17,the hype will be tremendous.The video is being shot today through October 8,and will premiere everywhere on October 24.I think Warners is making all the right decisions this time around.


I have to agree. Shit even I am excited...and I've never been really excited about a Madge release...even though I have gotten her last few within the week they came out

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Reply #95 posted 10/05/05 9:16am

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CrozzaUK said:

DavidEye said:

The song has been building momentum for weeks.The ringtone is available,and the song is featured in a commercial and on her official website.In addition,the song's producer (Stuart Price) has just "leaked" a lengthy instrumental version.I suspect that the previous leaks were intentionally done by Madonna's camp,to hype up the fanbase.This is all part of a strategy to build momentum for the song.When it officially debuts on radio October 17,the hype will be tremendous.The video is being shot today through October 8,and will premiere everywhere on October 24.I think Warners is making all the right decisions this time around.


I agree, the gradual release of info and clips has been very well manouvered by Warner. Everything from the initial clips to the tracklisting to the production info and the front cover. Warner Bros seem a lot more confident about this record than they did AL, that practically had a cloud over it before it was released.

Im enjoying the hype of the record, and i think the signs are much better than AL, but only time will tell if the product lives up to the hype.....I've a feeling it will.



DOes anyone feel that had Madonna released the original video for AL, things would have been different or do videos not matter much in terms of making or breaking sales.

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Reply #96 posted 10/05/05 9:39am

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CrozzaUK said:



I agree, the gradual release of info and clips has been very well manouvered by Warner. Everything from the initial clips to the tracklisting to the production info and the front cover. Warner Bros seem a lot more confident about this record than they did AL, that practically had a cloud over it before it was released.

Im enjoying the hype of the record, and i think the signs are much better than AL, but only time will tell if the product lives up to the hype.....I've a feeling it will.



DOes anyone feel that had Madonna released the original video for AL, things would have been different or do videos not matter much in terms of making or breaking sales.


not with me..i havent seen a video in ages. but then, im not gay.

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Reply #97 posted 10/05/05 9:43am

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twink69 said:

I don't get the promotional angle they are taking, the album is out in 1 month and the song has not even hit airwaves?? They are not allowing enough time for the song to build momentum before the album is released?


I heard she delayed the single release because the video had to be delayed due to her injuries.

And who releases 2 singles before an album comes out anymore?



to my knowledge the only thing that was deleyed was the date of the video shoot. everything else is on schedule.
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Reply #98 posted 10/05/05 9:45am

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sosgemini said:

superspaceboy said:




DOes anyone feel that had Madonna released the original video for AL, things would have been different or do videos not matter much in terms of making or breaking sales.


not with me..i havent seen a video in ages. but then, im not gay.

wink



SOS, since you are more lesbionic in your music i think you can qualify as Bi.
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Reply #99 posted 10/05/05 10:07am

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And who releases 2 singles before an album comes out anymore?


Dannii Minogue.
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Reply #100 posted 10/05/05 10:14am

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Moonbeam said:

superspaceboy said:


And who releases 2 singles before an album comes out anymore?


Dannii Minogue.



dannii is plauged by bad record deals though. Around the World records has butchered any momentum Dannii had coming off of Neon NIghts.
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Reply #101 posted 10/05/05 10:15am

CHIC0

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Does anyone feel that had Madonna released the original video for AL, things would have been different or do videos not matter much in terms of making or breaking sales.


yes. but perhaps not by much. the American Life video that was aired, was as basic as a video can get. something i think most people don't expect from Madonna. i mean here was nothing to it. i'm pretty sure the 'controversial' version would have gotten more people talking about it, and more people wanting to see and hear it which = more sales. shrug i'm not sure how important music videos are today, being that music video stations really don't play music videos anymore. lol and with people just downloading it almost seems pointless (as far as sales are concerned). though with Madonna; when she makes a music video, it's not necessarily another venue to push the album/songs, it's an entity within itself. lol
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Reply #102 posted 10/05/05 10:16am

CHIC0

Moonbeam said:

superspaceboy said:


And who releases 2 singles before an album comes out anymore?


Dannii Minogue.





lol

she was being interviewed about Kylie's condition and her new album on television last night. did u catch it? wink
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Reply #103 posted 10/05/05 10:27am

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CHIC0 said:

Moonbeam said:



Dannii Minogue.





lol

she was being interviewed about Kylie's condition and her new album on television last night. did u catch it? wink


Missed it! What'd she say?
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Reply #104 posted 10/05/05 10:37am

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superspaceboy said:


And who releases 2 singles before an album comes out anymore?

Technically Madonna for her last album. And Destiny's Child for "Survivor" and "Destiny Fulfilled". I can't think of others right now.
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Reply #105 posted 10/05/05 11:48am

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TRON said:

superspaceboy said:


And who releases 2 singles before an album comes out anymore?

Technically Madonna for her last album. And Destiny's Child for "Survivor" and "Destiny Fulfilled". I can't think of others right now.


The only reason we had 2 singles from AL is because she decided to add the Bond track onto it.

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Reply #106 posted 10/05/05 12:02pm

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superspaceboy said:

The only reason we had 2 singles from AL is because she decided to add the Bond track onto it.

It's still a good idea, any way you cut it.
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Reply #107 posted 10/05/05 12:39pm

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TRON said:

superspaceboy said:

The only reason we had 2 singles from AL is because she decided to add the Bond track onto it.

It's still a good idea, any way you cut it.


Cuz if she hadn't added it, it wouldn't have had any hits on it. biggrin

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Reply #108 posted 10/05/05 12:44pm

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superspaceboy said:

TRON said:


It's still a good idea, any way you cut it.


Cuz if she hadn't added it, it wouldn't have had any hits on it. biggrin



it has the club hits
Die Another Day
American Life
Hollywood
Nothing Fails
Nobody Knows Me
and Love Profusion
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Reply #109 posted 10/05/05 1:04pm

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ehuffnsd said:

superspaceboy said:



Cuz if she hadn't added it, it wouldn't have had any hits on it. biggrin



it has the club hits
Die Another Day
American Life
Nothing Fails
Nobody Knows Me
and Love Profusion


No those were the singles...not hits. biggrin

She released Nothing Fails and Nobody Knows Me? I saw the latter as a video...it was very well done.

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Reply #110 posted 10/05/05 1:24pm

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CHIC0 said:

superspaceboy said:

Does anyone feel that had Madonna released the original video for AL, things would have been different or do videos not matter much in terms of making or breaking sales.


yes. but perhaps not by much. the American Life video that was aired, was as basic as a video can get. something i think most people don't expect from Madonna. i mean here was nothing to it. i'm pretty sure the 'controversial' version would have gotten more people talking about it, and more people wanting to see and hear it which = more sales. shrug i'm not sure how important music videos are today, being that music video stations really don't play music videos anymore. lol and with people just downloading it almost seems pointless (as far as sales are concerned). though with Madonna; when she makes a music video, it's not necessarily another venue to push the album/songs, it's an entity within itself. lol


When I saw the original video(thanx to Kazaa), I was dumbfounded. It was such a good video. Nevermind the controversy or politics over it. It was well shot, well thought up, well choreographed, everything that the piece of shit 2nd version wasnt.

Would sales have been better had she stuck to her guns with the original video? Maybe. It might have made people curious, though I have a feeling that the album would have sold low regardless. But it might have made a bit of a difference.

Remember, alone, "American Life" is a mediocre Madonna song. Yet put through a remix or a badass visual behind it, the sky's the limit.

Also, though the singles off the album were not mainstream hits(save for Die Another Day), most of them, if not all, were MAJOR dance hits. The dance community will go crazy for anything with the name Madonna attached to it. And there's a video for Nobody Knows Me? Wow. I didn't like the original version much, but the remix of the song on "Remixed and Revisited" was great.
[Edited 10/5/05 13:28pm]
[Edited 10/5/05 13:29pm]
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Reply #111 posted 10/05/05 1:32pm

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CHIC0 said:

superspaceboy said:

Does anyone feel that had Madonna released the original video for AL, things would have been different or do videos not matter much in terms of making or breaking sales.


yes. but perhaps not by much. the American Life video that was aired, was as basic as a video can get. something i think most people don't expect from Madonna. i mean here was nothing to it. i'm pretty sure the 'controversial' version would have gotten more people talking about it, and more people wanting to see and hear it which = more sales. shrug i'm not sure how important music videos are today, being that music video stations really don't play music videos anymore. lol and with people just downloading it almost seems pointless (as far as sales are concerned). though with Madonna; when she makes a music video, it's not necessarily another venue to push the album/songs, it's an entity within itself. lol


Releasing the video would have had her albums burned like the Dixie Chicks (God has it been that long we've been at war?) For the first time I felt Madonna cow under the pressure. It was interesting because she made such a fuss over the video to begin with.

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Reply #112 posted 10/05/05 1:35pm

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superspaceboy said:

ehuffnsd said:




it has the club hits
Die Another Day
American Life
Hollywood
Nothing Fails
Nobody Knows Me
and Love Profusion


No those were the singles...not hits. biggrin

She released Nothing Fails and Nobody Knows Me? I saw the latter as a video...it was very well done.


all of them hit number one on the maxi sales, dance air play and club play charts except for Nobody Knows Me and it was kept out by Nothing Fails, because it was a double A promo to clubs.

Nothing Fails and NKM were released together. No Video for NOthing Fails though. The video for NKM was put together by Adiva i believe is his professional name and he was given a copy of Madonna's work journal. Which gave the exact date and time and what she wore for everything Madonna has done professionally. He used that to put the clips together in exact choronogilcal order to make the video. Madonna herself was impressed by it. It was going to be used as the part of the Opening Segment for the VMA's 2003 while Mads perfomred NKM, but at the last minunte changed to the LAV/Hollywood thing.
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Reply #113 posted 10/05/05 1:39pm

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CHIC0 said:



yes. but perhaps not by much. the American Life video that was aired, was as basic as a video can get. something i think most people don't expect from Madonna. i mean here was nothing to it. i'm pretty sure the 'controversial' version would have gotten more people talking about it, and more people wanting to see and hear it which = more sales. shrug i'm not sure how important music videos are today, being that music video stations really don't play music videos anymore. lol and with people just downloading it almost seems pointless (as far as sales are concerned). though with Madonna; when she makes a music video, it's not necessarily another venue to push the album/songs, it's an entity within itself. lol


When I saw the original video(thanx to Kazaa), I was dumbfounded. It was such a good video. Nevermind the controversy or politics over it. It was well shot, well thought up, well choreographed, everything that the piece of shit 2nd version wasnt.

Would sales have been better had she stuck to her guns with the original video? Maybe. It might have made people curious, though I have a feeling that the album would have sold low regardless. But it might have made a bit of a difference.

Remember, alone, "American Life" is a mediocre Madonna song. Yet put through a remix or a badass visual behind it, the sky's the limit.

Also, though the singles off the album were not mainstream hits(save for Die Another Day), most of them, if not all, were MAJOR dance hits. The dance community will go crazy for anything with the name Madonna attached to it. And there's a video for Nobody Knows Me? Wow. I didn't like the original version much, but the remix of the song on "Remixed and Revisited" was great.
[Edited 10/5/05 13:28pm]
[Edited 10/5/05 13:29pm]


I do agree with much of this. I know for one that if there is a video and a remix and even a remix video...all the gay clubs and video bars will play it non stop. I don't fequent gay dance bars anymore, so I am not sure of the HIT potential these songs might have had in the CLUBS.

As for Americal Life the song...I thought it wasn't that mediocre and was a departure for Madonna in terms of song structure and lyrics. I liked that song.

The Nobody Knows me video is a remix and was probably used to tout the remix album. The video single handedly features ALL of Madonna's important moments caught on video. After watching it, one cannot deny the power she has had over almost everything in fashion, music, photography etc. It's a pretty amazing video even for a video montage,

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Reply #114 posted 10/05/05 1:43pm

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ehuffnsd said:

superspaceboy said:



No those were the singles...not hits. biggrin

She released Nothing Fails and Nobody Knows Me? I saw the latter as a video...it was very well done.


all of them hit number one on the maxi sales, dance air play and club play charts except for Nobody Knows Me and it was kept out by Nothing Fails, because it was a double A promo to clubs.

Nothing Fails and NKM were released together. No Video for NOthing Fails though. The video for NKM was put together by Adiva i believe is his professional name and he was given a copy of Madonna's work journal. Which gave the exact date and time and what she wore for everything Madonna has done professionally. He used that to put the clips together in exact choronogilcal order to make the video. Madonna herself was impressed by it. It was going to be used as the part of the Opening Segment for the VMA's 2003 while Mads perfomred NKM, but at the last minunte changed to the LAV/Hollywood thing.


Damn, are you gonna bust my chops for almost anything I say? lol I was being facetious.

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Reply #115 posted 10/05/05 1:46pm

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VinnyM27 said:

I'm not asking for the MP3 or anything...well not really but I'm just wondering, how many people have heard the full "Hung Up"? I've heard the chorus (Madonna's site is plays it) and know the music but other than "Time goes by so slowly" I have no idea what the verses sound like unless that's it? Is there more to it? If that is it, I really like it but expected more.



these are the lyrics that were posted on the web about a month ago.

remember Music and Can't Get You Outta My Head didn't have alot of lyrics.
Time goes by so slowly (x6)

Every little thing that you say or do
I'm hung up
I'm hung up on you
Waiting for your call
Baby night and day
I'm fed up
I'm tired of waiting on you

Time goes by so slowly for those who wait
No time to hesitate
Those who run seem to have all the fun

I'm caught up
I don't know what to do
Time goes by so slowly
Time goes by so slowly
Time goes by so slowly
I don't know what to do

Every little thing that you say or do
I'm hung up
I'm hung up on you
Waiting for your call
Baby night and day
I'm fed up
I'm tired of waiting on you

Every little thing that you say or do
I'm hung up
I'm hung up on you
Waiting for your call
Baby night and day
I'm fed up
I'm tired of waiting on you

Ring ring ring goes the telephone
The lights are on but there's no-one home
Tick tick tock it's a quarter to two
And I'm done I'm hanging up on you

I can't keep on waiting for you
I know that you're still hesitating
Don't cry for me
'cause I'll find my way
you'll wake up one day
but it'll be too late

Every little thing that you say or do
I'm hung up
I'm hung up on you
Waiting for your call
Baby night and day
I'm fed up
I'm tired of waiting on you

Every little thing that you say or do
I'm hung up
I'm hung up on you
Waiting for your call
Baby night and day
I'm fed up
I'm tired of waiting on you




I'm happy. I know I'm wrong but I almost wish that I was right about the chorus having the line "Every damn thing that you say or do" instead of little. Oh well.
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Reply #116 posted 10/05/05 1:47pm

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DavidEye said:

stevenpottle said:

BRAND NEW TRACK INCLUDED ON LIMITED EDITION!!!

According to the current listings of Warner Music Group, the bonus track will be called "FIGHTING SPIRIT".

Details about the Limited Edition have not been announced yet, but it is understood that it will contain a one-month introductory membership to Madonna's fan club.

Warner has also changed the release date for the album's Limited Edition, that is now set for December 13 2005.

"Confessions" will be released as CD, LP, Limited Edition CD and Digital Music Download.
The album will receive a massive TV and print advertising campaign, and street, online and club marketing will be extensive.




This is great news! I was really disappointed with the Limited Edition of 'American Life'.....who needs some silly postage stamps and a large fold-out poster of the boring album cover art? Fans want a bonus track or two.I'm sure the packaging will be lavish and nice too.



A bonus track to two....give us bonus tracks and some damn remixes!
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Reply #117 posted 10/05/05 1:49pm

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superspaceboy said:

ehuffnsd said:



all of them hit number one on the maxi sales, dance air play and club play charts except for Nobody Knows Me and it was kept out by Nothing Fails, because it was a double A promo to clubs.

Nothing Fails and NKM were released together. No Video for NOthing Fails though. The video for NKM was put together by Adiva i believe is his professional name and he was given a copy of Madonna's work journal. Which gave the exact date and time and what she wore for everything Madonna has done professionally. He used that to put the clips together in exact choronogilcal order to make the video. Madonna herself was impressed by it. It was going to be used as the part of the Opening Segment for the VMA's 2003 while Mads perfomred NKM, but at the last minunte changed to the LAV/Hollywood thing.


Damn, are you gonna bust my chops for almost anything I say? lol I was being facetious.


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Reply #118 posted 10/05/05 1:50pm

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CHIC0 said:

Moonbeam said:



Dannii Minogue.





lol

she was being interviewed about Kylie's condition and her new album on television last night. did u catch it? wink


I had Extra on and say that they where going to talk to her but I missed it (it must have been their first story). What did she say about both?
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Reply #119 posted 10/05/05 1:52pm

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CHIC0 said:



yes. but perhaps not by much. the American Life video that was aired, was as basic as a video can get. something i think most people don't expect from Madonna. i mean here was nothing to it. i'm pretty sure the 'controversial' version would have gotten more people talking about it, and more people wanting to see and hear it which = more sales. shrug i'm not sure how important music videos are today, being that music video stations really don't play music videos anymore. lol and with people just downloading it almost seems pointless (as far as sales are concerned). though with Madonna; when she makes a music video, it's not necessarily another venue to push the album/songs, it's an entity within itself. lol


Releasing the video would have had her albums burned like the Dixie Chicks (God has it been that long we've been at war?) For the first time I felt Madonna cow under the pressure. It was interesting because she made such a fuss over the video to begin with.



On the radio here, she was banned anyways, so it couldn't have hurt. She could have been a liberal hero! Changed this whole thing around. She was treated like crap anyway so just let it loose. I'm shocked the video is still under wraps! Next time she releases a video set, it's coming out or I'm done with her crappy DVDs!
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