Newjack is wack.


But i ain't down with that. Both genres have little to do with eachother, but both did come out of various "harder edged" black music. Disco came from funk, and newjack came from hiphop (amongst other things)

I know alot of u people love disco, and it must be ur age . I find it soft, and not funky enough to dance too.


I can take a few disco cuts, but newjack wins easily for me. It was slick, funky, and could be furious. Mixing the best of pop and hiphop and funk. And with smooth harmonies most the time.

I think alot of u people hate the snares that came with newjack. I love 'em

disco came from more than just funk.

BSK3478 said:

So, u gonna answer me

I know i simplified it, infact, u cant define newjackswing at all.

But disco is so trendy is sucks. Radio still plays it non stop.

Is newjack too black for those old radio stations? (in UK it sure is)

BSK3478 said:

New Jack came from more than hiphop.

i liked newjackswing

rushing07 said:

exactly.

Stuff like Guy and the stylings of TLC's debut, I dig, but otherwise...

BSK3478 said:

Yes, who cares.

So ur gonna answer me?


Newjack came from many things. Funk (cameo got them big ass snares before teddy ever did), pop (the melodical side of newjack) etc....


Newjack was strictly black artists in theory, but heck, if glenn mederios and jermey jordan can do newjack, albiet more commercial, then it can scope more then u think. Newjack is more then a teddy riley production to me. Newjack pop I call it.

To be honest I like both. Disco is funky too. MAybe not Donna Summer disco but diana ross gets funky sometimes.

What I like about NEw JAck is shuffled rhythm and crazy sounds in the background (Ohhhh on the TLC tip...). Hard to say which one I like more. Depends on my mood.
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thesexofit said:

guess.

BSK3478 said:

Hmmmm, i'll say u prefer neither.

But yeah u like disco over newjack

rushing07 said:

Ohhh on a tlc tip was later newjack, which is my preferred "era". Dallis austin did some good stuff back then. |Even better then that album was ab's "another bad creation". The production is off the chain.


Thats the thing, newjack is all about production. But infact, disco is too. Lyrically, neither genre is important, its dance music.


I always fucking hear chic "good times" every time i go into a old club. Give it a fucking rest. I hate that stupid song.

This mix CD starts with some newjackswing, have you seen it? It's Canadian.


Baby Blue Soundcrew Urban Nostalgia


Boyz II Men - Motownphilly
Bell Biv Devoe - Poison
Johnny Kemp - Just Got Paid
Tony! Toni! Tone! - Feels Good
Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock - It Takes Two
DJ Mark & The 45 King - 900 Number
De La Soul - Me, Myself and I
Lisa Lisa & The Cult Jam - I Wonder If I Take You Home
Cameo - Candy
Mary J Blige - Real Love [Remix]
LL Cool J - Doin’ It
Ol Dirty Bastard - Shimmy Shimmy Ya
Black Sheep - The Choice Is Yours
EPMD - Crossover
Jade - Don’t Walk Away
BVSMP - I Need You
Lionel Richie - All Night Long

CinisterCee said:

Nope. UK did have a series called mastercuts (though I lived inUS then and was too young to buy mix cd's anyway)

I do like remixes, but newjack remixes are hit and miss


Guy remixes are the bees knees though.

"we can, we can, we can we can we can we can, we can spend the night....."

Newjack gave birth to remix cd's i guess.

thesexofit said:

CinisterCee said:

I bought that album brand new. I liked it at the time.

Diddy was the new hammer.

Hmmm, if davideye replies, me thinks he'll go for d-i-s-c-blow.

rushing07 said:

Not so fast! There was definitely some jazz and funk influence on Donna Summer's early work. I'm thinking specifically of the Love to Love You Baby album (the keyboard work on Need a Man Blues) and Four Seasons of Love album. Yeah, it disappeared in later albums, but it was there from the beginning.

I liked a lot of New Jack and I love disco, primarily early disco. I think the problem with New Jack is that it never really got a chance to fully develop before it got washed out. Disco lasted a good long while before it became a joke.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Newjack got turned into hiphop soul which thus got turned into (shudder) Neo soul. Newjack did get played out. By 1993, if u were still doing newjack, u wern't gonna sell. It was that quick. Bobby Brown left it too late with his excellent "bobby" album (by far his best album).

It didn't help that some major rnb star cashed in on it, and virtually all failed.

Diana ross
Gladys knight
Ray parker jr
Kashif
Ready for the world (sort of)
Glenn medeiros (complete change from MOR adult contemp ala luther vandross to deliberatley urban sounding tracks like "she ain't worth it" with Bobby Brown.

Like disco, it had its dances. Disco dancing is shit. John travolta disco duck pansy dancing.

Compare that to the running man (i know, the movwe itself was not made for newjack), but it was perfect for the layered beats and heavy kryboards and snares.

Surprisenly, most newjack was recorded on AAD mixing, not DDD or even ADD. As newjack was so programmed, u would think the final mix would be digital.

CinisterCee said:

Excatly. New Jack Swing was great but it breeded....well. Not that disco can brag about influecning some very numbing dance pop.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Back to Donna....can you really say that "Hot Stuff" isn't funky? Again, a little more obscure but "Once Upon A Time" had some really good funk on there. "If You Got It, Flaunt It" is prehaps her funkiest song ever!

VinnyM27 said:

Interesting thing about donna, during the late 80's, she went the worst route possible and hooked up with brit producers stock aiken and waterman, who are perhaps, the worst factory churning hitmakers of all time. I c her video on sometimes. Its very funny. She is doing some weird ass running man move. Down a dark street. Very contrived, but fun and funny

I like 2 songs by stovk aiken and waterman-

"Respectable" by mel and kim (awesome song and funny video) and the all dancing "never gonna give you up"



That video is so funny. I cannot copy his moves

I like New Jack...it reminds me of high school. I used to have all those albums (on cassette). I need to get them on CD. Never got into disco--I was a bit too young.

Disco rules! The lush orchestration on many disco hits are mindblowing,and this style of music gave us some of the most influential songs of all time (Donna Summer's "I Feel Love"...Chic's "Good Times",etc).


New Jack Swing was basically just R&B music with a hip-hop beat....a merging of the two styles.It paved the way for the bland R&B music that we hear nowadays.

DavidEye said:

NEW JACK for me,


that made me want to dance.

i dislike 75% of DISCO, i mean i hate the BEE GEES so thats how Bias i am.

Disco over New Jack by 10 miles. Disco was my first love and actually, I never really left disco. When disco "died", I was not about to change my listening habits because of it. Rock and new wave took over the pop scene. That's when I started exploring R&B radio and discovered funk, which was fast paced and for the dance floor just like disco. In fact, early 1980s funk sounds better to me than earlier funk because of the influence that disco had left on it earlier. Even with rap songs like "Planet Rock" and "Egypt, Egypt", I hear the influence of disco. It's when rap songs lost their disco edge, that I started hating rap.

During the entire new jack era, I was listening to house music, which was a modern reincarnation of disco.
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Cloudbuster said:

so,does this mean that you agree?

New jack swing for me all the way, I loved that era of music. It didn't last long enough for me, and I miss it.

I don't like disco at all, but then again, I tend to hate on most things from the 70's, because that decade was so sucky.

Disco vs. Newjack

suck vs. blow

it's hard to say