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the people there are there because they didn't want to leave. It costs money to leave. It costs money for gas, food, and a motel/hotel for who knows how long. If I lived in New Orleans, I probably would have been one of those that went to the Superdome because I wouldn't have had that kind of money to get out. Yes, there are a few that refused to leave because they didn't believe it was going to be so bad but the majority didn't have the money to leave. As for Bush taking so long to respond, if it was rich white Republicans that were stupid enough to vote for his sorry ass, he would have been there the very next day. The only reason he's sending people in there now is because it would look bad if he didn't. If he had his way, he wouldn't do anything. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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way to focus on the wrong part of the sentence, people.  way to focus on the wrong part of the post, actually. kanye has no couth. thats my beef.now i know what this is all about. now i know exactly what i am. | |
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Just for this, Im buying a copy of Late Registration! WTG, Kanye for having the balls to say what too many are afraid to say. | |
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SleezyG said: way to focus on the wrong part of the sentence, people.
way to focus on the wrong part of the post, actually. kanye has no couth. thats my beef.Ok, dude Im done with you because you clowened yourself, ya big dummy. | |
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Kanye I hate your music, you suck!
BUT Good for you!  I totally agree with you!
Someone needs to break through the Paid Off/Asleep at the wheel TV Media. 
How dare he say that, how dare he see unfilter photos of victims bodies on the streets getting eating by rats! ( yes there is photos like this, I have seen them online)  | |
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vainandy said: SleezyG said:
the people there are there because they didn't want to leave. It costs money to leave. It costs money for gas, food, and a motel/hotel for who knows how long. If I lived in New Orleans, I probably would have been one of those that went to the Superdome because I wouldn't have had that kind of money to get out. Yes, there are a few that refused to leave because they didn't believe it was going to be so bad but the majority didn't have the money to leave. As for Bush taking so long to respond, if it was rich white Republicans that were stupid enough to vote for his sorry ass, he would have been there the very next day. The only reason he's sending people in there now is because it would look bad if he didn't. If he had his way, he wouldn't do anything. I remember a quote that went " It's not a problem until it becomes our problem"... Don't know who said it but damn aint it the truth! 5 days and now people are just getting "relief" Pleeaze! Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Hate to be cynical, but he's only saying this to sell a few more albums. | |
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jtgillia said: Hate to be cynical, but he's only saying this to sell a few more albums.
I know this post is Kanye but this topic aint about Kanye. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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SleezyG said: what the fuck does slavery have to do with fucking anything? "black slaves"? please. those people weren't forced to do anything- they could have left if they wanted to. your tone shows you're not listening. kanye's fucking stupid rock-star ego got in the way, emotion took over, and he said something completely stupid in that situation. he's turning the louisiana problem into the bush problem. you want to point fucking fingers? how about waiting for everyone to be taken care of first.
the only people making this a racial problem are the people who are insisting its racial. this situation is a bunch of people teetering on starvation and death. there's no skin color when disaster strikes. its people dying. fuck you for making it your platform. get off your fucking high horse and do something other than bitch. could the us have cleared out the city? fuck yeah- if they used the chinese government's method- forcing everyone the hell out. the people there are there because they didn't want to leave. [Edited 9/2/05 22:32pm] [Edited 9/2/05 22:33pm] You must be white & clueless....They could leave if they wanted to? G et in the game man...many of those people are POOR people without transporatation!! What in the fuck are you thinking? |
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PAPAROBBIE said: SleezyG said: what the fuck does slavery have to do with fucking anything? "black slaves"? please. those people weren't forced to do anything- they could have left if they wanted to. your tone shows you're not listening. kanye's fucking stupid rock-star ego got in the way, emotion took over, and he said something completely stupid in that situation. he's turning the louisiana problem into the bush problem. you want to point fucking fingers? how about waiting for everyone to be taken care of first.
the only people making this a racial problem are the people who are insisting its racial. this situation is a bunch of people teetering on starvation and death. there's no skin color when disaster strikes. its people dying. fuck you for making it your platform. get off your fucking high horse and do something other than bitch. could the us have cleared out the city? fuck yeah- if they used the chinese government's method- forcing everyone the hell out. the people there are there because they didn't want to leave. Agreed! Ya know I'm white but I sho' aint clueless and so what if my english is a little broken, I'm pissed! Once again I think this issue will divide people and that's all right. Right is right and wrong is wrong. It's that simple. 5 days... [Edited 9/2/05 22:32pm] [Edited 9/2/05 22:33pm] You must be white & clueless....They could leave if they wanted to? G et in the game man...many of those people are POOR people without transporatation!! What in the fuck are you thinking? Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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jtgillia said: Hate to be cynical, but he's only saying this to sell a few more albums. I totally agree and I am not a fan of his music by no means. However, what he said is true and it needed to be said. More people need to be saying it. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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PAPAROBBIE said: SleezyG said: what the fuck does slavery have to do with fucking anything? "black slaves"? please. those people weren't forced to do anything- they could have left if they wanted to. your tone shows you're not listening. kanye's fucking stupid rock-star ego got in the way, emotion took over, and he said something completely stupid in that situation. he's turning the louisiana problem into the bush problem. you want to point fucking fingers? how about waiting for everyone to be taken care of first.
the only people making this a racial problem are the people who are insisting its racial. this situation is a bunch of people teetering on starvation and death. there's no skin color when disaster strikes. its people dying. fuck you for making it your platform. get off your fucking high horse and do something other than bitch. could the us have cleared out the city? fuck yeah- if they used the chinese government's method- forcing everyone the hell out. the people there are there because they didn't want to leave. [Edited 9/2/05 22:32pm] [Edited 9/2/05 22:33pm] You must be white & clueless....They could leave if they wanted to? G et in the game man...many of those people are POOR people without transporatation!! What in the fuck are you thinking? Agreed! Ya know I'm white but I aint clueless. This situation is a class situation no matter what anybody wants to think. And that class is mostly black. If it was George Bush's family or most in the Government I guarantee it wouldn't took 5 days to get relief! Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said:
Agreed! Ya know I'm white but I aint clueless. This situation is a class situation no matter what anybody wants to think. And that class is mostly black. If it was George Bush's family or most in the Government I guarantee it wouldn't took 5 days to get relief! It's true that George Bush doesn't give a damn about anyone of any color unless they are rich but I still believe and have always believed that he is a racist. He's just not going to say he is. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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SleezyG said: way to focus on the wrong part of the sentence, people.
way to focus on the wrong part of the post, actually. kanye has no couth. thats my beef.Man...FUCK YOU !!! Youse got da right screenname [Sleezy] "Who gon' clean up all deez Flowers" ----Eddie Murphy as mr. clarence | |
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728huey said: I'm watching the telethon for the hurricane victims on the Gulf Coast, and Kanye West went off on how the media portays the black victims as looters while portraying the white victims as desperate. Then he talked about the war and yelled, "George Bush doesn't care about black people!" before the camera switched away.
  I saw that too. Kudos to Kanye for speaking the truth. Bush is an ass in every sense of the word. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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MadameS said: asg said: i saw bill mahers( formally from politocally incorrect) show on HBO it took so many swipes at bush.
You know bush was busy playing guitar ( they even had a picture) after the hurricane. He is a total moron i hope he gets impeached.I hope his approval goes to 30% I dont think u can blame poor ppl for not moving they dont have the resources. Its just the sad part of life  Agreed. Between shows like Bill Mahers and Kayne's protest, the revolution is being televised and I say dammit's about time. I remember PRINCE saying how much he liked Bill Mahers show a few Years back. Im sure PRINCE stopped watching BILL as soon as BILL pointed out how stupid Religion is and how people are Brainwashed into believing in it. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: MadameS said: Agreed. Between shows like Bill Mahers and Kayne's protest, the revolution is being televised and I say dammit's about time. I remember PRINCE saying how much he liked Bill Mahers show a few Years back. Im sure PRINCE stopped watching BILL as soon as BILL pointed out how stupid Religion is and how people are Brainwashed into believing in it. WTF? ""The Revolution will not be televised, the Revolution will be live..""  Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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728huey said: I'm watching the telethon for the hurricane victims on the Gulf Coast, and Kanye West went off on how the media portays the black victims as looters while portraying the white victims as desperate. Then he talked about the war and yelled, "George Bush doesn't care about black people!" before the camera switched away.
this is why i will never respect Kanye....ask him what is he doing to fight the war on terror??? I will say probably nothing...he will go on a telethon to promote his album, when will people wake up and see this man for what he is..a talented, self center prick!!! Kanye...shut up, unless you want to dip in to your on personal money for the people in N.O. or go over to Iraq and defend your country who protects your ass and give the life you brag about. All races are suffering down there, they need help. IMO they are doing was they think they need to do to survive, food and water, I totally understand, but tv's and electronics...come on now | |
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i don't see the big deal, he just said what everyday folk say all the time, he said it on T.V so what? | |
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psychodelicide said: 728huey said: I'm watching the telethon for the hurricane victims on the Gulf Coast, and Kanye West went off on how the media portays the black victims as looters while portraying the white victims as desperate. Then he talked about the war and yelled, "George Bush doesn't care about black people!" before the camera switched away.
I saw that too. Kudos to Kanye for speaking the truth. Bush is an ass in every sense of the word. I agree with you, Bush is an ass, but the bottom line the city of N.O. was not prepared, there was no plan. It very sad to see those children dying..breaks my heart. | |
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lastdecember said: SleezyG said: i'm sorry- whether mr. west is right (which i believe he is) or wrong, this is not the place to start this fight. how about helping those who need help? this isn't his platform- it's theirs. people who go on national television and play the race card in situations like this obviously have nothing pertinent to add to the situation. you want to say it on an album? please do. in an interview? absolutely. again, i agree with him. bush is an asshole- but don't take the focus off of those starving and dying due to a national disaster to say something off topic.
[Edited 9/2/05 20:49pm] [Edited 9/2/05 20:52pm] Exactly but that is what is wrong with this Country, if this happened in England there wouldnt be a "race" battle. Im not saying there shouldnt be talk of this, lets be honest, 98% of the area Hit the hardest were Black, and most of New Orleans live in Poverty, they make an average of 8,000 a year!! Had this been a wealthy "whiter" area like Florida, relief would have been there day one. The Biggest problem with this is nobody in GOVT will admit that the BIG reason why releif and the National Guard wasnt there, is because they are all in IRAQ fighting the MOST USELESS WAR in history! I think right now EVERY soldier over there should put there Guns away and say "F.U. Bush" and get on a Plane and desert the Army and get back here and Help. But i think a better POINT that was made by BILL MAHER and ERIC DYSON just a few moments ago, "people dieing are people dieing" whether they are Black, white, whatever or whatever country they are in. The point is in america its all "ME ME ME", we really dont care about the next person. doesn't hurt to have his brother as govenor in florida....Iraq is a mess and there is no way to get out fast enough without losing credibility | |
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thecableguy said: 728huey said: I'm watching the telethon for the hurricane victims on the Gulf Coast, and Kanye West went off on how the media portays the black victims as looters while portraying the white victims as desperate. Then he talked about the war and yelled, "George Bush doesn't care about black people!" before the camera switched away.
this is why i will never respect Kanye....ask him what is he doing to fight the war on terror??? I will say probably nothing...he will go on a telethon to promote his album, when will people wake up and see this man for what he is..a talented, self center prick!!! Kanye...shut up, unless you want to dip in to your on personal money for the people in N.O. or go over to Iraq and defend your country who protects your ass and give the life you brag about. All races are suffering down there, they need help. IMO they are doing was they think they need to do to survive, food and water, I totally understand, but tv's and electronics...come on now How do we know he's not dipping into his own money to help out? Would it be tackier if he sat around bragged about how much he donated? Isn't it good that he's calling out the root of the problem, racist politicans? And why is it so bad for an artist to want to succeed and, at the same time, have a political voice in the process? | |
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thecableguy said: psychodelicide said: I saw that too. Kudos to Kanye for speaking the truth. Bush is an ass in every sense of the word. I agree with you, Bush is an ass, but the bottom line the city of N.O. was not prepared, there was no plan. It very sad to see those children dying..breaks my heart. A friend of mine told me that there was a plan in place to repair the levies so that they wouldn't break in the event of a catastrophe like this. She told me that Bush cancelled the plan, and spent the money that would have been used for the repairs for (I think) the Iraqi war (not sure what she told me now, probably because I was pissed when she told me about it).RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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MendesCity said: thecableguy said: this is why i will never respect Kanye....ask him what is he doing to fight the war on terror??? I will say probably nothing...he will go on a telethon to promote his album, when will people wake up and see this man for what he is..a talented, self center prick!!! Kanye...shut up, unless you want to dip in to your on personal money for the people in N.O. or go over to Iraq and defend your country who protects your ass and give the life you brag about. All races are suffering down there, they need help. IMO they are doing was they think they need to do to survive, food and water, I totally understand, but tv's and electronics...come on now How do we know he's not dipping into his own money to help out? Would it be tackier if he sat around bragged about how much he donated? Isn't it good that he's calling out the root of the problem, racist politicans? And why is it so bad for an artist to want to succeed and, at the same time, have a political voice in the process? If he did he would say it..has he yet??? The problem will all these people in the music business today (dixie chicks/ p-diddy..) Is that the feel their voices are bigger than the problem. Would you listen to a Kanye if he was not in the music business I will go back well over 30 years with this, Elvis Presely was once asked about his views on the Vietnam war, his response "he is an entertainer, and rather keep his personal views to himself". Perfect. The bottom line if all the "entertainers" today want to express themselves which is fine, do something other than play "monday morning quaterback" and tell us what most of us seem to know all ready. Why not run for a political office, if they are popular as they say they should have no problem getting elected. They won't do it, for the obvious reason... | |
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thecableguy said: MendesCity said: How do we know he's not dipping into his own money to help out? Would it be tackier if he sat around bragged about how much he donated? Isn't it good that he's calling out the root of the problem, racist politicans? And why is it so bad for an artist to want to succeed and, at the same time, have a political voice in the process? If he did he would say it..has he yet??? The problem will all these people in the music business today (dixie chicks/ p-diddy..) Is that the feel their voices are bigger than the problem. Would you listen to a Kanye if he was not in the music business I will go back well over 30 years with this, Elvis Presely was once asked about his views on the Vietnam war, his response "he is an entertainer, and rather keep his personal views to himself". Perfect. WTF! The bottom line if all the "entertainers" today want to express themselves which is fine, do something other than play "monday morning quaterback" and tell us what most of us seem to know all ready. Why not run for a political office, if they are popular as they say they should have no problem getting elected. They won't do it, for the obvious reason... Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: thecableguy said: If he did he would say it..has he yet??? The problem will all these people in the music business today (dixie chicks/ p-diddy..) Is that the feel their voices are bigger than the problem. Would you listen to a Kanye if he was not in the music business I will go back well over 30 years with this, Elvis Presely was once asked about his views on the Vietnam war, his response "he is an entertainer, and rather keep his personal views to himself". Perfect. WTF! The bottom line if all the "entertainers" today want to express themselves which is fine, do something other than play "monday morning quaterback" and tell us what most of us seem to know all ready. Why not run for a political office, if they are popular as they say they should have no problem getting elected. They won't do it, for the obvious reason... WTF! Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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thecableguy said: MendesCity said: How do we know he's not dipping into his own money to help out? Would it be tackier if he sat around bragged about how much he donated? Isn't it good that he's calling out the root of the problem, racist politicans? And why is it so bad for an artist to want to succeed and, at the same time, have a political voice in the process? If he did he would say it..has he yet??? The problem will all these people in the music business today (dixie chicks/ p-diddy..) Is that the feel their voices are bigger than the problem. Would you listen to a Kanye if he was not in the music business I will go back well over 30 years with this, Elvis Presely was once asked about his views on the Vietnam war, his response "he is an entertainer, and rather keep his personal views to himself". Perfect. The bottom line if all the "entertainers" today want to express themselves which is fine, do something other than play "monday morning quaterback" and tell us what most of us seem to know all ready. Why not run for a political office, if they are popular as they say they should have no problem getting elected. They won't do it, for the obvious reason... What about being an entertainer relinquishes the right to speak politically? Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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psychodelicide said: thecableguy said: I agree with you, Bush is an ass, but the bottom line the city of N.O. was not prepared, there was no plan. It very sad to see those children dying..breaks my heart. A friend of mine told me that there was a plan in place to repair the levies so that they wouldn't break in the event of a catastrophe like this. She told me that Bush cancelled the plan, and spent the money that would have been used for the repairs for (I think) the Iraqi war (not sure what she told me now, probably because I was pissed when she told me about it).I will admit this, at the start of the war I supported it, i thought let's find those WMD's get Hussien out of there, but we still have found nothing, as an american I feel lied to, this is what our president said was there. When was the last time you ever heard about WMD's on the news??? Bush will try to put 9/11 on this war, but it was already proven that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. So we waste billions of dollars over there for a country that hates us, our soldiers are dying and for what??? We have people who live in poverty, an educational system that is failing, gas prices that are over $4. Our focus should be on the US, let us take a vacation from the rest of the world. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: Bfunkthe1 said: WTF! What?? | |
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