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PrintableSEXYMOFO said: LoveAlive said: and just likes its hard to learn an instrument, its hard to yep. yes it is. anyone can TALK. anyone can talk about yadda yadda. but rapping is not entirely talkin. if someones just talkin i'm not gonna feel what they sayin. u gotta flow, u gotta make it sound GOOD.
so u'r saying that it takes the same amount of skill to learn to rap well as it does to learn to play an instrument cogently? if thats indeed true, then why is it that more people would prefer to learn to rap than learn to play an instrument Most rappers are from the ghetto, they are surronded by Hip Hop culture and Rap music, so of course they're gonna want to rap instead of play instruments. Their heroes are people like Tupac and Biggie not Jimi Hendrix. Plus instruments can be expensive. oh lawd..... My cousin lives in the heart of the hood and plays classic violin. Another cousin listens to jazz.....lets not do the stereotyping of the kids in the hood...don't let the white tees and baggy jeans fool ya...there's some kids that are doing more that bangin' in the white tees.....  | |
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oh lawd.....
My cousin lives in the heart of the hood and plays classic violin. Another cousin listens to jazz.....lets not do the stereotyping of the kids in the hood...don't let the white tees and baggy jeans fool ya...there's some kids that are doing more that bangin' in the white tees..... THANK U the comment that person made was so stereotypical...and ignorant... | |
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TonyVanDam said: laurarichardson said: ----- No SexyMofo is not kidding. Lot's of people think rapping is a hard skill. When you can see the record industry grabbing anyone off the street corner now a days. Well if any of you think that being an rap artist...a MC/emcee is easy, then why the hell none of us are making money like the G-Unit or Cash Money Records right now? I can write some good poets, but I can't rap to save my own life!!! That's why I rather learn to be a DJ, Producer, and a beatmaker! I'll will not sample. I will try hard to build my tracks from the ground up.  ----- It is making money due to hype. G-Unit will not be around 5 years or even 10 years from now. We have seen this over and over again in the rap world. I can't believe people are still falling for it. | |
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laurarichardson said: TonyVanDam said: Well if any of you think that being an rap artist...a MC/emcee is easy, then why the hell none of us are making money like the G-Unit or Cash Money Records right now? I can write some good poets, but I can't rap to save my own life!!! That's why I rather learn to be a DJ, Producer, and a beatmaker! I'll will not sample. I will try hard to build my tracks from the ground up. ----- It is making money due to hype. G-Unit will not be around 5 years or even 10 years from now. We have seen this over and over again in the rap world. I can't believe people are still falling for it. BINGO...some people aint that bright..lol | |
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laurarichardson said: It is making money due to hype. G-Unit will not be around 5 years or even 10 years from now. We have seen this over and over again in the rap world. I can't believe people are still falling for it. Popular music in general suffers from here today, gone today. Rap music is no different. That said, there's a number of hip-hop"veterans" who are still kicking. Nas, LL, Snoop, Ice Cube, Dre, Jay-Z (retired my ass), heck even Outkast has been around for a minute now. . [Edited 8/28/05 13:39pm] | |
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LoveAlive said: Most rappers are from the ghetto, they are surronded by Hip Hop culture and Rap music, so of course they're gonna want to rap instead of play instruments. Their heroes are people like Tupac and Biggie not Jimi Hendrix. Plus instruments can be expensive.
WHAT A STEREOTYPICAL comment to make....just for ya knowledge...Im 24 and from the ghetto and who was my first musical hero....CHAKA KHAN of all people...then STEVIE WONDER...then at 12 I discovered a Man by the name of PRINCE and it was all over....[/quote] ok first off that isnt stereotypical, it has truth to it. second EVERYONE IS NOT U. people are influenced BY THEIR SURROUNDINGS. obviously if a person is surrounded by common, pac and big they're gonna be more inclined to rap. whereas if people are surrouned by jimi, janis and prince their gonna be more inclined to singer or pick up a guitar. 9 times out of 10 your in some way a product of ur environment Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Universaluv said: laurarichardson said: It is making money due to hype. G-Unit will not be around 5 years or even 10 years from now. We have seen this over and over again in the rap world. I can't believe people are still falling for it. Popular music in general suffers from here today, gone today. Rap music is no different. That said, there's a number of hip-hop"veterans" who are still kicking. Nas, LL, Snoop, Ice Cube, Dre, Jay-Z (retired my ass), heck even Outkast has been around for a minute now. . [Edited 8/28/05 13:39pm] ----- Nas -sucks ass. LL- does more acting then rapping. Thus still around Ice Cube same as LL. Dre- Producing not really rapping and trying to ride the Eminem train. Jay-Z sucks ass and does not have the education to run a lable. Outkast- Just starting to break-out into cross over success but we will see if the fuck up. ----- Rap has a higher failure rap then any of genre of music. [Edited 8/28/05 18:24pm] | |
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laurarichardson said: Universaluv said: Popular music in general suffers from here today, gone today. Rap music is no different. That said, there's a number of hip-hop"veterans" who are still kicking. Nas, LL, Snoop, Ice Cube, Dre, Jay-Z (retired my ass), heck even Outkast has been around for a minute now. . [Edited 8/28/05 13:39pm] ----- Nas -sucks ass. LL- does more acting then rapping. Thus still around Ice Cube same as LL. Dre- Producing not really rapping and trying to ride the Eminem train. Jay-Z sucks ass and does not have the education to run a lable. Outkast- Just starting to break-out into cross over success but we will see if the fuck up. ----- Rap has a higher failure rap then any of genre of music. [Edited 8/28/05 18:24pm] Well personal opinions about the merit of the particular artists aside, the point is there are rap artists who have managed to sustain relatively long careers. | |
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 I dunno....I'm not into rap myself, but can say there are some great "rap" tracks out there today, and from the past. I make a variety of music on my PC, and have had a go at a kinda rappin  and its not easy 
But maybe you could look at it this way. Is a graffiti artist less talented than a painter  He doesn't mix his paint, and is not aquainted with the delicate needs of a paint brush. That said, a picture or visual statement is made, which in essence tell the viewer something. This I would give credit for 
Todays rap could be seen as somewhat fashionable, as it seems to be everywhere. And people are buying it because they like it. I'm sure someone here could point the way to some more.... deeper rap music, which may be more to your liking
But as an artform itself, rap is carving out a destiny every day. I can say that I don't really like Country music, but I am sure someone, somewhere has a country song in there collection that I would love
Keep those ears open 
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Mada, Yeah thats me. AND WHAT | |
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AdamB said:
Goin' for the record, huh? "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: LoveAlive said: Most rappers are from the ghetto, they are surronded by Hip Hop culture and Rap music, so of course they're gonna want to rap instead of play instruments. Their heroes are people like Tupac and Biggie not Jimi Hendrix. Plus instruments can be expensive.
WHAT A STEREOTYPICAL comment to make....just for ya knowledge...Im 24 and from the ghetto and who was my first musical hero....CHAKA KHAN of all people...then STEVIE WONDER...then at 12 I discovered a Man by the name of PRINCE and it was all over.... ok first off that isnt stereotypical, it has truth to it. second EVERYONE IS NOT U. people are influenced BY THEIR SURROUNDINGS. obviously if a person is surrounded by common, pac and big they're gonna be more inclined to rap. whereas if people are surrouned by jimi, janis and prince their gonna be more inclined to singer or pick up a guitar. 9 times out of 10 your in some way a product of ur environment[/quote] well...it is still assuming that young ppl in the hood ONLY listen to hip hop.....I just disagree with that. | |
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Rhondab said: Moonwalkbjrain said: ok first off that isnt stereotypical, it has truth to it. second EVERYONE IS NOT U. people are influenced BY THEIR SURROUNDINGS. obviously if a person is surrounded by common, pac and big they're gonna be more inclined to rap. whereas if people are surrouned by jimi, janis and prince their gonna be more inclined to singer or pick up a guitar. 9 times out of 10 your in some way a product of ur environment well...it is still assuming that young ppl in the hood ONLY listen to hip hop.....I just disagree with that. I grew up listening to Hip Hop but I also listened to Calypso, soca, rock and classic music. I wanted to be a musician and play the guitar when I was little. I kept buggin my parents about gettin me one but they couldn't afford to buy me one or any instrument. I recently was able to buy my own acoustic guitar and learning how to play it now. So its not steroetypical at all as Moonwalk stated. There is truth to it. I know many kids that wanted to play an instrument but couldn't because at the time it was to expensive for their parents to get. Hence the creation of the beatbox. Hip Hop started, IMO, by kids who used what they had to make music. So when it really comes down to it, it really is an ART form. The progression of Hip Hop from back in the day to now....HONESTLY 
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