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Reply #30 posted 08/22/05 4:42am

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I like him..although I have to admit he is a little arrogant.
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Reply #31 posted 08/22/05 7:07am

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I'll probably buy his next cd.
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Reply #32 posted 08/22/05 7:21am

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West hopes to register with musical daring
By Steve Jones, USA TODAY
LANHAM, Md. — Kanye West is certain his Late Registration will ace the sales test Friday. What he wants to know is whether it will stand the test of time.

The never-shy producer/rapper says his newest album is sonically superior to last year's Grammy-winning debut, The College Dropout, and stacks up well against other classic albums.

"Music hasn't been taken this far in years — since Stevie (Wonder) did it. Since Prince did it," says West, 27, who enlisted Fiona Apple producer Jon Brion to help him go in a different direction.

"I'm not trying to compete with what's out there now. I'm really trying to compete with Innervisions and Songs in the Key of Life. It sounds musically blasphemous to say something like that, but why not set that as your bar?" (Related story: West, hip-hop's writer in residence)

West has had a good year. He won three Grammys and delivered a show-stopping Jesus Walks on the awards program, and he produced two of 2005's most acclaimed albums — John Legend's Get Lifted and Common's Be. But the real question was what would he do for an encore to Dropout.

On Registration, he talks about everything from politics to partying, and guest artists include Maroon 5's Adam Levine, Jamie Foxx, Common, The Game, Brandy, Nas, Cam'Ron and Jay-Z.

His most daring move was bringing in multi-instrumentalist Brion, who had scored such movies as Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Punch-Drunk Love. West, who came into prominence four years ago with Jay-Z's groundbreaking The Blueprint, was seeking a new plateau in production.

"Picture me, someone who likes cinematic-sounding stuff, having someone who actually scores movies to help produce the album," West says.

Brion says that although some might find their pairing odd, he and West shared a seriousness about making records and "a total obsession with lyrics." Brion's skill with orchestras and with such instruments as vibraphones and marimbas gave West a much broader spectrum of sounds to work with.

West showed a lot of courage, Brion says, by stepping out on an artistic ledge.

"If ever there was a time not to (mess) with the formula, this would be it," Brion says. "But he's fearless. A lot of people have a governor on themselves, usually peer pressure or fear of not being liked. This is a guy that is truly living by his tastes and his beliefs."

The result is "only the future of music itself," West says, laughing. "Only a Dr. Dre or a Pharrell (Williams) could even fathom accomplishing something like this, and they do it in their own way."

West, who likens himself to the Philadelphia Eagles' brash Terrell Owens, makes no apologies for talking smack.

"Are you supposed to be humble?" he says. "Honestly. If you've got a whole crowd of people singing your song and you've got one critic saying this song is OK, well, you know you're right."
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Reply #33 posted 08/22/05 7:37am

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anyone else spit up their water when reading the above article?
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Reply #34 posted 08/22/05 7:44am

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JackieBlue said:

West hopes to register with musical daring
By Steve Jones, USA TODAY
LANHAM, Md. — Kanye West is certain his Late Registration will ace the sales test Friday. What he wants to know is whether it will stand the test of time.

The never-shy producer/rapper says his newest album is sonically superior to last year's Grammy-winning debut, The College Dropout, and stacks up well against other classic albums.

"Music hasn't been taken this far in years — since Stevie (Wonder) did it. Since Prince did it," says West, 27, who enlisted Fiona Apple producer Jon Brion to help him go in a different direction.

"I'm not trying to compete with what's out there now. I'm really trying to compete with Innervisions and Songs in the Key of Life. It sounds musically blasphemous to say something like that, but why not set that as your bar?" (Related story: West, hip-hop's writer in residence)

West has had a good year. He won three Grammys and delivered a show-stopping Jesus Walks on the awards program, and he produced two of 2005's most acclaimed albums — John Legend's Get Lifted and Common's Be. But the real question was what would he do for an encore to Dropout.

On Registration, he talks about everything from politics to partying, and guest artists include Maroon 5's Adam Levine, Jamie Foxx, Common, The Game, Brandy, Nas, Cam'Ron and Jay-Z.

His most daring move was bringing in multi-instrumentalist Brion, who had scored such movies as Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Punch-Drunk Love. West, who came into prominence four years ago with Jay-Z's groundbreaking The Blueprint, was seeking a new plateau in production.

"Picture me, someone who likes cinematic-sounding stuff, having someone who actually scores movies to help produce the album," West says.

Brion says that although some might find their pairing odd, he and West shared a seriousness about making records and "a total obsession with lyrics." Brion's skill with orchestras and with such instruments as vibraphones and marimbas gave West a much broader spectrum of sounds to work with.

West showed a lot of courage, Brion says, by stepping out on an artistic ledge.

"If ever there was a time not to (mess) with the formula, this would be it," Brion says. "But he's fearless. A lot of people have a governor on themselves, usually peer pressure or fear of not being liked. This is a guy that is truly living by his tastes and his beliefs."

The result is "only the future of music itself," West says, laughing. "Only a Dr. Dre or a Pharrell (Williams) could even fathom accomplishing something like this, and they do it in their own way."

West, who likens himself to the Philadelphia Eagles' brash Terrell Owens, makes no apologies for talking smack.

"Are you supposed to be humble?" he says. "Honestly. If you've got a whole crowd of people singing your song and you've got one critic saying this song is OK, well, you know you're right."

When it's all said and done, it's just music. shrug It's been around for centuries, y'know.
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Reply #35 posted 08/22/05 7:47am

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sosgemini said:

anyone else spit up their water when reading the above article?


::cleaning water from keyboard::

He's right though. It does sound blasphemous to say such a thing. Just put the ish out. It'll be determined from there.
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Reply #36 posted 08/22/05 8:18am

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I like Kanye however what people FAIL to realize is KANYE WEST IS NOT A RAPPER HE IS A PRODUCER and they should have their own catagory Producers that wanna be rappers
Puffy
Timbaland
Jermaine Dupri
Teddy Riley (The Godfather of the shit)
Pharrell
-- Now we can see him in a whole new light! -- Is he the best in THIS catagory - because you can't compare him to a real rapper like Jay- Z or Talib Kwali

*For all who may ask -- I didn't include Missy even though she would fit into that catagory but Missy is a different thread all together because she was a talented artist first who discovered later on that she had an even bigger talent in producing*
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Reply #37 posted 08/22/05 8:45am

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sosgemini said:

i abore his rapping on common's cd..nothing person but the way he raps always makes my brain think, "bitch".

i've never ever ever reacted that way to someone rapping..its his natural god given voice...it just screams bitch...i get the same feeling when i hear fran dresher talk.



nod

Wow we actually agree on something. When I think of great rappers and great hip hop producers I think The Roots, he's no where near them. However, they are always overlooked by the new flavor of the month. Kanye West will be like Timbaland in a few years, we will remember he was "IT" once but I don't know how many people will still care.
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Reply #38 posted 08/22/05 10:36am

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JackieBlue said:

sosgemini said:

anyone else spit up their water when reading the above article?


::cleaning water from keyboard::

He's right though. It does sound blasphemous to say such a thing. Just put the ish out. It'll be determined from there.


i've heard it already, and his cd has taken music real far, like out of my cd player onto the self collecting dust. wacky
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Reply #39 posted 08/22/05 10:44am

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sinisterpentatonic said:

JackieBlue said:



::cleaning water from keyboard::

He's right though. It does sound blasphemous to say such a thing. Just put the ish out. It'll be determined from there.


i've heard it already, and his cd has taken music real far, like out of my cd player onto the self collecting dust. wacky



lol

I was wondering because the two singles I've heard or okay but nothing to write home about. Then I thought well maybe it's all the other tracks...

Too much talking leads to expectations that are often hard to meet. Even Be, while I love it, I didn't think it was earth-shattering. I don't run it repeatedly either. From my experience it's the thing I least expect that grabs my attention and keeps it.
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Reply #40 posted 08/22/05 11:00am

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JackieBlue said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



i've heard it already, and his cd has taken music real far, like out of my cd player onto the self collecting dust. wacky



lol

I was wondering because the two singles I've heard or okay but nothing to write home about. Then I thought well maybe it's all the other tracks...

Too much talking leads to expectations that are often hard to meet. Even Be, while I love it, I didn't think it was earth-shattering. I don't run it repeatedly either. From my experience it's the thing I least expect that grabs my attention and keeps it.


i think Kanye is just trying hard to create some hype over it, i'm sure he's aware of the power of suggestion. lol

It's not bad, but its not something i'd bang on the daily either. i've had a bootleg of this for the last 2 months and i'm starting to wonder if this is the official release, cuz i don't know what he hell he's going on about. falloff

it might not be official, i did buy it over seas and it is titled. "Freshman Adjustment", hmmm


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Reply #41 posted 08/22/05 11:47am

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Ithink the doctors should have given Kanye a brain scan when he was in his car accident. I think part of his jawbone got pushed into the common sense section of his brain.... lol

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Reply #42 posted 08/22/05 12:15pm

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"I was sick about awards
Couldn’t nobody cure me
Only playa that got robbed but kept all his jewelry
Alicia Keys tried to talk some sense to them
30 minutes later seems there’s no convincing them
What more can you ask for?
The international awards? nah
Who complains about when he is old?
And throw a tantrum like he’s 3 years old
You gotta love it though somebody still speaks from his soul
And wouldn’t change by the change, or the game, or the fame, when he came, in the game, he made his own name"
-----Kanye West: Diamonds Are Forever


I'm not a fan of his production work AT ALL, but I have to give it to him; he's honest. I have a lot of respect for someone who can profess his shortcomings on record like that. That was one of the things I liked about Prince back in the day, too. In his song "All Falls Down" he spoke of his own materialism and I thought that was RARE for a rapper to do. Kanye is ARROGANT. Not confident, ARROGANT. There's no mistaking that. He admits it himself. He even admitted his disloyalty to Dame Dash in a recent interview. I had a great deal of respect for him, evemn though I don't like his work that much nor do I care for his attitude. I do respect his honesty. He's not fake like Doody's six-times-a-day-name-changing ass.
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Reply #43 posted 08/22/05 10:55pm

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MadameS said:

Rinluv said:

Yeah, I think Ur right. I think Kanye samples other artists music and beats 2 much, he should try makin' somethin' himself.

nod Agreed. His lack of orginality of is getting stale as fuck. I think he does better work behind the scences as a producer than solo. It was crime how he butchered up Chaka Khan's song Through The Fire.


eek wow. u REALLY think he butchered it????

i love it how ppl talk about rappers being so arrogant and yet we forget who this site is all about. Mr. Arrogant himself....


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Reply #44 posted 08/22/05 11:05pm

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JackieBlue said:

sosgemini said:

anyone else spit up their water when reading the above article?


::cleaning water from keyboard::

He's right though. It does sound blasphemous to say such a thing. Just put the ish out. It'll be determined from there.


nod however if he gonna say somethin like this he needs to be prepared to fail and prepared for the inevitable backlash. so he better bring it


"Music hasn't been taken this far in years — since Stevie (Wonder) did it. Since Prince did it," says West, 27, who enlisted Fiona Apple producer Jon Brion to help him go in a different direction.

"I'm not trying to compete with what's out there now. I'm really trying to compete with Innervisions and Songs in the Key of Life. It sounds musically blasphemous to say something like that, but why not set that as your bar?" (Related story: West, hip-hop's writer in residence
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Reply #45 posted 08/22/05 11:34pm

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terryfrancis said:

kayne west sucks

shit rapper

shit music

and thinks he's some sort of important musician

hes a piece of shit

diamonds are forever? what a shit song

ive heard more tuneful songs coming out of my arse when having a shit

i agree. Kanye west sucks
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Reply #46 posted 08/23/05 3:18am

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Rhondab said:

i love it how ppl talk about rappers being so arrogant and yet we forget who this site is all about. Mr. Arrogant himself....


I'm ambivalent as far as Kanye goes, but I agree with you. A lot of Prince fans like to hold our hero to a different standard than other artists, not so much in terms of talent, but in behaviour. Prince can be the most arrogant little bitch in the world, and he gets away with it because the same people who berate rappers like Kanye and others for being full of themselves don't object when P. does the same.

I can hear it now, "Prince is more talented.....been around longer.....could perform circles around Kanye....blah blah blah". rolleyes That's no excuse, is it?
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Reply #47 posted 08/23/05 5:23am

Rhondab

for the record....


I like Kanye....


lol....but i'm simple. shrug

he's entertaining at least...that's all I want from anyone....just make me look...maybe pop my fingas...and sing along....


but I'm simple...
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Reply #48 posted 08/23/05 6:16pm

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Rhondab said:

for the record....


I like Kanye....


lol....but i'm simple. shrug

he's entertaining at least...that's all I want from anyone....just make me look...maybe pop my fingas...and sing along....


but I'm simple...

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I'll give you mad props if you can pop your fingers to Diamonds. The song has absolutly no beat whatsoever. We are in a time when blackfolks have lost their ability to funk. neutral
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Reply #49 posted 08/23/05 6:17pm

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meow85 said:

Rhondab said:

i love it how ppl talk about rappers being so arrogant and yet we forget who this site is all about. Mr. Arrogant himself....


I'm ambivalent as far as Kanye goes, but I agree with you. A lot of Prince fans like to hold our hero to a different standard than other artists, not so much in terms of talent, but in behaviour. Prince can be the most arrogant little bitch in the world, and he gets away with it because the same people who berate rappers like Kanye and others for being full of themselves don't object when P. does the same.

I can hear it now, "Prince is more talented.....been around longer.....could perform circles around Kanye....blah blah blah". rolleyes That's no excuse, is it?
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You can talk shit when you can back it up with talent. Kanye does not have any talent. He can sample shit and that's all he can do.
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Reply #50 posted 08/23/05 10:54pm

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meow85 said:


I'm ambivalent as far as Kanye goes, but I agree with you. A lot of Prince fans like to hold our hero to a different standard than other artists, not so much in terms of talent, but in behaviour. Prince can be the most arrogant little bitch in the world, and he gets away with it because the same people who berate rappers like Kanye and others for being full of themselves don't object when P. does the same.

I can hear it now, "Prince is more talented.....been around longer.....could perform circles around Kanye....blah blah blah". rolleyes That's no excuse, is it?
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You can talk shit when you can back it up with talent. Kanye does not have any talent. He can sample shit and that's all he can do.

clapping Well Said Laura.
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Reply #51 posted 08/25/05 7:10pm

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laurarichardson said:

Rhondab said:

for the record....


I like Kanye....


lol....but i'm simple. shrug

he's entertaining at least...that's all I want from anyone....just make me look...maybe pop my fingas...and sing along....


but I'm simple...

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I'll give you mad props if you can pop your fingers to Diamonds. The song has absolutly no beat whatsoever. We are in a time when blackfolks have lost their ability to funk. neutral

not all of them though, lets not forget that...
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Reply #52 posted 08/27/05 3:05pm

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laurarichardson said:

meow85 said:


I'm ambivalent as far as Kanye goes, but I agree with you. A lot of Prince fans like to hold our hero to a different standard than other artists, not so much in terms of talent, but in behaviour. Prince can be the most arrogant little bitch in the world, and he gets away with it because the same people who berate rappers like Kanye and others for being full of themselves don't object when P. does the same.

I can hear it now, "Prince is more talented.....been around longer.....could perform circles around Kanye....blah blah blah". rolleyes That's no excuse, is it?
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You can talk shit when you can back it up with talent. Kanye does not have any talent. He can sample shit and that's all he can do.


falloff

I knew I'd get this kind of Purple kool-aid, ass-kissing response. Holy shit, Martha! I'm psychic!

There's never an excuse for acting like your shit don't stink, whether you're Prince or the guy down at the corner store mumbling about Jesus stealing his car.
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Reply #53 posted 08/27/05 8:16pm

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paisleypark4 said:

I Love Kanye but I recently lost some respect for him.


I was watchin MTV and Sway was interviewing him about his ego problem, and he berated! The man said, "well if im gonna pay such and such amount of money to per4m on stage then I should get an award!!!"

Then he said about the Scource.."I wanna be the one with the most interesting conversation about me having five mics, we all be sitting around the table and I can say, well u know i have a classic five mics album" booo hooo bitch PLEASE!

Now I know Im probably gonna be one of the first to run and grab that album when it come out, but now I am going to be critical of him because he shown me that he was an ego maniac.

I finally saw the interview on Thursday and some of the stuff coming out of his mouth had me going eek i shit you not. He got points on talking about gays, i was totally with him on that but when he started talking about awards and how he should be always get 5 stars on every critic poll, i was just shocked at how big his ego is. I hope the CD can live up to the hype and i'm willing to give him a chance.
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