TheCrucialExperience said:

Besides, all this waring is turn on for you isn't Q.

Hotlegs said:

Hey, how about u and me go and have a mudwrestling match!

sinisterpentatonic said:

Exactly! you took the words right out of Antonio's mouth baby

AntonioFargas said:

We could've been siamese twins or something.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Joined at the anus?

JediMaster said:

If both albums are crap, how is it 'Voodoo' was able to fool so many critics into giving it rave reviews (most recently Spin earlier this year) and not 'Newpower Soul'? I haven't read one positive review of NPS yet (except for a few orgers here naturally). Why don't people put on the same rose-colored glasses (or headphones in this case) when listening to the latter?

One of the 2 worst albums i've heard in my life , the other being bat Out Of hell 2 , albums so bad I literally was waiting for them to end ,*shivers*

TheCrucialExperience said:

TheCrucialExperience said:

Forget the mud how about some chocolate.

Prince did take the comments on Voodoo as a challenge by the way , he took "Untitled" and rerecorded it as (the superior) " U Make My Sun Shine " with Angie Stone , lots of people on the org at the time commented on the similarities between the 2 songs . As for it inspiring him to do TRC , dream on...

TheCrucialExperience said:

There is a big difference between our situation in this argument, You are tugging at Prince's nuts in every defence that one would think you wrote the music. I'm not defending ANYONe.. not D, or the "precious" prince. All i'm saying is what I See.. not you. I think your completely incapable of see'in any resemblance in the music anyway.. This is all subjective arguments.. Its not court room, nor am I a huge fan of eithers albums we're referring to. So cool it off brother.. Your one too many replies ahead of the game

I guess it was silly of me to bring this topic up in the first place.. This topic could have been about flushing a turd down the toilet.. and someone would pop up Prince and say that the toilet was a complete rip off of his 90's music...

Hotlegs said:

u can lick me and I lick u?

Sdldawn said:

Again, I find it HILARIOUS as to how people can say PRINCE WAS INFLUENCED BY AN ARTIST IN WHICH PRINCE INFLUENCED! That's just some DUMB, ASS BACKWARDS THINKING ALTOGETHER, and so far you're GREAT at being ASS BACKWARD. So Prince NOW needs D'Angelo TO MOTIVATE HIM, even though Prince had been in the game since 78. I guess Prince wasn't making ANY MUSIC while D'Angelo was doing butt naked videos. Prince was waiting around for THE GREAT D'ANGELO TO INSPIRE HIM! LOL! Go figure.
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TheCrucialExperience said:

How long prince has been in the "game" is irrelevant to how he is motivated in life. what does that matter? It doesnt.. It could have been anyone or anything that motivates a human being.. yes we are talking about a HUMAN here. I think thats the part you are actually missing.. the fact that D was inspired by Prince initally.. then created new records that inspired Prince, thus Prince becoming inspired. that is the irony in the situation.. and YES, its very possible

This isnt exactly the hardest concept to follow.

All in all it doesnt matter.. Some people are gonna see what their gonna see. and thats it.

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Sdldawn said:

No, Mr. IDONTKNOW, you're talking about one of the most PROLIFIC MUSICIANS OF OUR TIME, not some dude like Maxwell. You trying to argue up the fact that P needed motivation from someone who HE influenced ain't floatin' over here, kid.

TheCrucialExperience said:

I understand this is your Idol, and he is the "Bestest thing to ever come around since slice bread"
But please keep in mind that some people view him as a musician, and not a immortal. And regardless if u think he inspired, or uninspired by D.. That doesnt really matter.. cause its evident you are dead set on Prince finding self inspiration, and the idea of a newcomer creating something half as good as prince is totally out of the quesion. Very small minded son.
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Boring, weak, repetitive drum beats over sparse, uninteresting arrangements. This describes both of these craptacular albums.

I dunno...Spanish Joint had a nice rhythm to it. In fact, I dug alot of the rhythms found in Voodoo; I rather enjoy the "churchy" vibes. And sparse arrangements are just as interesting as elaborate ones. For example, I enjoy the arrangement of Parade as much as I do anything John McLaughlin. Didnt BB King say its not how many notes you play, its what you do with that one note?

Prince did take the comments on Voodoo as a challenge by the way , he took "Untitled" and rerecorded it as (the superior) " U Make My Sun Shine " with Angie Stone ,

Hmm...I didnt know that. Thats interesting.

As for it inspiring him to do TRC , dream on...

I dont think its a stretch to believe otherwise. I mean, that was the impression I had when I first heard TRC; I thought Prince wanted to show D how to really do a smoked out, star gazing R&B album.

Again, I find it HILARIOUS as to how people can say PRINCE WAS INFLUENCED BY AN ARTIST IN WHICH PRINCE INFLUENCED! That's just some DUMB, ASS BACKWARDS THINKING ALTOGETHER, and so far you're GREAT at being ASS BACKWARD. So Prince NOW needs D'Angelo TO MOTIVATE HIM, even though Prince had been in the game since 78. I guess Prince wasn't making ANY MUSIC while D'Angelo was doing butt naked videos. Prince was waiting around for THE GREAT D'ANGELO TO INSPIRE HIM! LOL! Go figure.

It isnt hard to figure out at all. I dont think its dumb either. History is full of artists who influenced other artists being influenced by that other artist. For example, Hendrix was influenced by Dylan; he covered Dylan all the time. Dylan heard Hendrix's version of "All Along The Watchtower" a tune penned by Dylan, now Dylan plays the song he wrote the way Hendrix did!

chuckaducci said:

Thank you very much.

chuckaducci said:

I also agree that this is perfectly believable.

sextonseven said:

These things happen all the time. and thats the Beauty of it!

Sdldawn said:

LOL! He can be an IDOL or a GOAT, I don't care, BUT WE DO KNOW HE'S A MUSICAL GENIUS AND HE DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A NEWBIE TO THE GAME TO INSPIRE HIM. Now go to bed, son.

PRINCE COMES TO ME FOR INSPIRATION !!!!

prettymansson said:

Oh Hell To The Nah. D Goes From Sexy To ODB Lawd Have Mercy!

"What's Wrong, Wrong With World Today. Things Just Got To Get Better."

Hotlegs said:

Oh Hell To The Nah.
u are silly as hell

prettymansson said:

Hey, I may be silly but I am a realist. Now, you can't fault me for that.

TheCrucialExperience said:

haha
I tell ya..there comes a point when you should ask yourself.. is there any point in replying..

and considering your replies have lowered to perhaps a 13 year old, this is where it ends my friend.
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Hotlegs said:

"Me and Mariah! Go back like babies and pacifiers. Old Dirt Dawg no liar!"

Sdldawn said:

This coming from the kid who said "TRC was a direct result of Voodoo...But I have NO PROOF." LOL! Go to bed, son!

man...when did this become a Prince versus D thing? I thought this was supposed to be about what elements of voodoo did we like most?

look...i am a lifelong Prince fan...been a fan since the beginning...actually got his first two records before they were available to the buying public. Prince has a catalogue that proves he can be a badass without a doubt. Much of his catalogue represents a milestone in music of the last 25 years. Much of his work is some of my favorite music to listen to..so yes, i consider myself a legitimate Prince fan.

but...

i am not blind. or deaf. i haven't sipped the purple kool aide to the point where i cant see that in spite of his incredible back catalogue and history of creating some undeniably classic innovative songs...he IS fallible...and he, like MANY great artists (insert other greats like Stevie Wonder, James Brown) he too CAN...and in my opinion for periods of time HAS...lost his own inner self inspiration...and the music suffers. So as great as his stuff can be, he HAS made his share of PURE & utter CRAPOO too. Those are the facts...

and at the time of Voodoos release...P WAS putting out some shall we say LESS than top o the line stuff...and thats being very kind.

as to whether TRC (an album which i also love) was inspired by Voodoo...whos to say...i don't know if it was a direct response to Voodoo or not...i'm not in Princes mind. But production-wise, yes i find it similar to voodoo in several ways...and, again, production-wise it was a complete left turn from everything P had been releasing up to that point...in fact, if i remember (i could be mistaken about this) initially P was going to release another record entirely...Voodoo comes out, prince pulls that project and next comes TRC instead...this could be a coincidence...maybe so, maybe not...in the end I DONT CARE...inspired by voodoo or not inspired by voodoo, i have the ability to enjoy them both on their own merits...

D has admitted that he is inspired by Prince. in fact, i have an interview somewhere where he & Quest say that at least two songs on Voodoo were INTENTIONALLY done as tributes to one of their favorite musical heroes Prince...'Untitled' was INTENTIONALLY created in honor & respect as a 'prince type slow jam'...they INTENTIONALLY and openly said that for "Africa" they tried their damdest to imitate the drum sound and feel of 'I wonder U'...I respect that they had respect to openly pay homage to one of their inspirations...and I DONT think that them paying homage in that manner takes ANYTHING away from their OWN undeniable creativity and style. Do i hear some elements of princes stuf in D's? yes, sometimes, but i ALSO hear many other elements of OTHER influences as well. I ALSO hear many interesting NEW and unique elements as well that are NOT in Princes stuff. and speaking of Prince's stuff, as great as we all think he is, lets be real here, in HIS stuff there are ALSO clearly influences from HIS OWN musical heroes as well...so if you are going to throw stones at Dangelo and others for having elements of their musical inspirations in their own music then throw those same stones at Prince too...

i guess thats what gets me...why does it always have to be an either / or when it comes to some folks? They are BOTH talented cats, theres plenty of room for bothe of em...and healthy competition between talents (if thats even whats really going on here) would be a GOOD and WELCOME thing in my opinion. In the old days when i was growing up, thats how it WAS...The Temptations would come out something smoking, and the Four Tops would say 'damn' and work hard to come out with something smoking too. The Chilites would drop a knockout and the Stylistics would say 'whoah' and come out with an upercut. Harold Melvin would kill em and the the Spinners would wow em. heheh then after that, The Dells would knock em outta the park (i love the Dells). Marvin would do this, and Stevie would do that. Nobody was 'stealing' from each other...not at all...everyone had their own take on whatever was going on...but at the same time everyone was 'inspired' or 'sparked' by each other...it encouraged the music to get better & better & better...it was a GOOD thing...a GREAT thing and some of the best music of all time came out of it...

but it WASN'T an "either/ or" thing...thats what drives my crazy these days...that folks are so defensive, so wrapped up their own immediate 'favorites' that they really don't seem to be able to appreciate ANY element out there that might also provide some similar level of enjoyment were they able to loosen the noose on their own perceptions and historical preferences just a bit...

but to them i say their loss...and i don't want to waste too much time trying to convince them otherwise...

i'd rather spend my time enjoying the music...
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