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PrintableTheCrucialExperience said: guitarslinger44 said: I dont' know where y'all bought your copy of Voodoo, but mine sounds NOTHING like Prince. Maybe Untitled, but other than that, I dont' hear ANY Prince on there at all. I guess you haven't heard Send It On then, eh?   I guess you haven't heard Kool & the Gang's Sea of Tranquility, huh? | |
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I like the whole jam session feel of the album, and there are songs I really dig like Africa and One Mo'gin | |
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Sdldawn said: TheCrucialExperience said: I know one thing, you sure the hell better be BLACK using that phrase.
What if he is half and half.. does that count? What's half and half? One drop makes you brotha, aint you know no history, son! "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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AntonioFargas said: TheCrucialExperience said: I guess you haven't heard Send It On then, eh? I guess you haven't heard Kool & the Gang's Sea of Tranquility, huh? No. But what does that have to do with D' sounding like Prince? "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: AntonioFargas said: I guess you haven't heard Kool & the Gang's Sea of Tranquility, huh? No. But what does that have to do with D' sounding like Prince?  [Edited 8/8/05 15:19pm] | |
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AntonioFargas said: TheCrucialExperience said: No. But what does that have to do with D' sounding like Prince?
[Edited 8/8/05 15:19pm] No response? LOL! But I just noticed you had to EDIT! EDIT WHAT? A SMILEY FACE? "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: AntonioFargas said:
[Edited 8/8/05 15:19pm] No response? LOL! But I just noticed you had to EDIT! EDIT WHAT? A SMILEY FACE? No... no response... I just wanna see if you're gonna do your homework. | |
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AntonioFargas said: TheCrucialExperience said: No response? LOL! But I just noticed you had to EDIT! EDIT WHAT? A SMILEY FACE? No... no response... I just wanna see if you're gonna do your homework. ? Homework? Where's school? LOL! I have my degree so I've BEEN done with homework. Now, I would love for YOU to answer MY question since I was respectful enough to answer yours. "What does Kool & The Gang have to with the fact that D'Angelo sounds like Prince on a few cuts on VooDoo?" "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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Hotlegs said: TheCrucialExperience said: It was a hoshposh of outtakes to me. Some shit he just threw together after he found another label after being gone for 5 years. A weak effort that ONLY generated heat due to his naked video.
 Well Said Brown Sugar was better written and arrranged.I gotta agree with this too. Voodoo just did not live up to the hype for me. Whereas, I enjoyed most of Brown Sugar. I only really liked one song on Voodoo and it wasn't that bucknaked video rip off of Jill Jones' "Baby You're A Trip." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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JediMaster said: Back to the frakin' topic:
I tried to like Voodoo, I really did, but I just LOATHE that album. I bought the album, having only heard a live performance of "Chicken Grease", so I really didn't know what to expect. I surely wasn't expecting the pseudo-funk sounds that he and ?uestlove were churning out on this disc. Still, so many people were saying "oh, you just have to listen to it some more, there are so many layers to it". Well, I just don't see it. Boring, tepid funk-lite that isn't as good as the crap P put on NPS (and I think everyone knows how much I detest that album). I think its pathetic when people say you HAVE to be stoned in order to appreciate an album. Hey, Dark Side of the Moon is better stoned, but it is also a masterpiece when you're sober. Without any drugs, Voodoo is just plain boring Thank you Jedi. Everytime someone brings up this album they always harp on the "deep down swamp funk" and "letting it marinate" and blah, blah, blah. Please... When I heard the album the first time all I could think about was 1) it's boring and 2) he's imitating about 3 different old school artists (Curtis Mayfield, Sly, Prince) without adding anything original to it, and 3) why the f*ck is his ass mumbling over damn near every song. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Ifsixwuz9 said: JediMaster said: Back to the frakin' topic:
I tried to like Voodoo, I really did, but I just LOATHE that album. I bought the album, having only heard a live performance of "Chicken Grease", so I really didn't know what to expect. I surely wasn't expecting the pseudo-funk sounds that he and ?uestlove were churning out on this disc. Still, so many people were saying "oh, you just have to listen to it some more, there are so many layers to it". Well, I just don't see it. Boring, tepid funk-lite that isn't as good as the crap P put on NPS (and I think everyone knows how much I detest that album). I think its pathetic when people say you HAVE to be stoned in order to appreciate an album. Hey, Dark Side of the Moon is better stoned, but it is also a masterpiece when you're sober. Without any drugs, Voodoo is just plain boring Thank you Jedi. Everytime someone brings up this album they always harp on the "deep down swamp funk" and "letting it marinate" and blah, blah, blah. Please... When I heard the album the first time all I could think about was 1) it's boring and 2) he's imitating about 3 different old school artists (Curtis Mayfield, Sly, Prince) without adding anything original to it, and 3) why the f*ck is his ass mumbling over damn near every song. EXACTAFUCKINLY! LOL! That half-speak murmur shit DROVE ME FUCKIN' CRAZY! "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: Sdldawn said: What if he is half and half.. does that count? What's half and half? One drop makes you brotha, aint you know no history, son! wait a minute.. so your telling me even if its his/her half brothers mothers cousin sisters half dad? | |
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Ifsixwuz9 said: JediMaster said: Back to the frakin' topic:
I tried to like Voodoo, I really did, but I just LOATHE that album. I bought the album, having only heard a live performance of "Chicken Grease", so I really didn't know what to expect. I surely wasn't expecting the pseudo-funk sounds that he and ?uestlove were churning out on this disc. Still, so many people were saying "oh, you just have to listen to it some more, there are so many layers to it". Well, I just don't see it. Boring, tepid funk-lite that isn't as good as the crap P put on NPS (and I think everyone knows how much I detest that album). I think its pathetic when people say you HAVE to be stoned in order to appreciate an album. Hey, Dark Side of the Moon is better stoned, but it is also a masterpiece when you're sober. Without any drugs, Voodoo is just plain boring Thank you Jedi. Everytime someone brings up this album they always harp on the "deep down swamp funk" and "letting it marinate" and blah, blah, blah. Please... When I heard the album the first time all I could think about was 1) it's boring and 2) he's imitating about 3 different old school artists (Curtis Mayfield, Sly, Prince) without adding anything original to it, and 3) why the f*ck is his ass mumbling over damn near every song.  Yeah, I tried to "let it marinate", but it still tasted like crap!
Oh, and co-sign on the "mumble rap". So fraking annoying! 
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two different albums with two different things going on, Brown Sugar is a song album, Voo Doo is more about a vibe, it tried to capture a mood and put you in a certain state of mind, hints the title of the album. Seems like it worked for some, others it may not have, everybody doesn't catch the holy ghost in church either, he said in a yahoo interview that he grew up in a black church where people would shout, and that it reminded him of voo doo or something along those lines. Different strokes for different folks. and so on and so on... | |
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Meloh9 said: two different albums with two different things going on, Brown Sugar is a song album, Voo Doo is more about a vibe, it tried to capture a mood and put you in a certain state of mind, hints the title of the album. Seems like it worked for some, others it may not have, everybody doesn't catch the holy ghost in church either, he said in a yahoo interview that he grew up in a black church where people would shout, and that it reminded him of voo doo or something along those lines. Different strokes for different folks. and so on and so on...
Interesting. Of course, I don't really get any kind of "black church" gospel vibe from the album at all.
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JediMaster said: Meloh9 said: two different albums with two different things going on, Brown Sugar is a song album, Voo Doo is more about a vibe, it tried to capture a mood and put you in a certain state of mind, hints the title of the album. Seems like it worked for some, others it may not have, everybody doesn't catch the holy ghost in church either, he said in a yahoo interview that he grew up in a black church where people would shout, and that it reminded him of voo doo or something along those lines. Different strokes for different folks. and so on and so on...
Interesting. Of course, I don't really get any kind of "black church" gospel vibe from the album at all. I think he was going for the mystery behind the idea of 'Voodoo', not to recreate the church atmosphere. | |
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sextonseven said: JediMaster said: Interesting. Of course, I don't really get any kind of "black church" gospel vibe from the album at all. I think he was going for the mystery behind the idea of 'Voodoo', not to recreate the church atmosphere. he claimed church inspired it, and how the shouting in church was like that of a voo doo ceremony this is the source of the statement, if you can get this link to work http://music.yahoo.com/ar...s--DAngelo he broke it down a lot better | |
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Meloh9 said: sextonseven said: I think he was going for the mystery behind the idea of 'Voodoo', not to recreate the church atmosphere. he claimed church inspired it, and how the shouting in church was like that of a voo doo ceremony this is the source of the statement, if you can get this link to work http://music.yahoo.com/ar...s--DAngelo he broke it down a lot better COULDNT SEE THE VID  | |
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JediMaster said: Meloh9 said: two different albums with two different things going on, Brown Sugar is a song album, Voo Doo is more about a vibe, it tried to capture a mood and put you in a certain state of mind, hints the title of the album. Seems like it worked for some, others it may not have, everybody doesn't catch the holy ghost in church either, he said in a yahoo interview that he grew up in a black church where people would shout, and that it reminded him of voo doo or something along those lines. Different strokes for different folks. and so on and so on...
Interesting. Of course, I don't really get any kind of "black church" gospel vibe from the album at all. Heh. Neither do I. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Meloh9 said: I like the whole jam session feel of the album, and there are songs I really dig like Africa and One Mo'gin
Africa's drum pattern is a straight rip from I Wonder U | |
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DiamondGirl said: Meloh9 said: I like the whole jam session feel of the album, and there are songs I really dig like Africa and One Mo'gin
Africa's drum pattern is a straight rip from I Wonder U Exactly. | |
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Hotlegs said: DiamondGirl said: Africa's drum pattern is a straight rip from I Wonder U Exactly.I'm glad somebody is paying homage to Prince, or stealing from him or whatever, better than all this other BS out these days, same with Andre 3000, he did the song Spread in the Camille voice, and they both openly acknowledge Prince as a influence. These artists keep the torch lit and they introduce these influences to a whole other generation of listeners. Prince sounds like Sly on all my dreams, he sounds like Sly on Make Yo Ma Ma Happy and like George Clinton and Sly on Erotic City, I got into sly and George Clinton because of Prince. I know a lot of people who started listening to Prince because of D’Angelo and OutKast. So if we are going to condemn people for sounding like their influences, then we should not be Prince fans. HouseQuake, Sexy MF and Musicology... James Brown, Reflection... Joni Mitchell.. On The Couch sounds a lot like Sly and The Family Stones cover of Que. Sera Sera So What? Who Cares? It’s still good. Just like Africa is still a good song. Maggot Brain is very Hendrix esq ( damn good ) some folks influences show, | |
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Meloh9 said: Hotlegs said: Exactly.I'm glad somebody is paying homage to Prince, or stealing from him or whatever, better than all this other BS out these days, same with Andre 3000, he did the song Spread in the Camille voice, and they both openly acknowledge Prince as a influence. These artists keep the torch lit and they introduce these influences to a whole other generation of listeners. Prince sounds like Sly on all my dreams, he sounds like Sly on Make Yo Ma Ma Happy and like George Clinton and Sly on Erotic City, I got into sly and George Clinton because of Prince. I know a lot of people who started listening to Prince because of D’Angelo and OutKast. So if we are going to condemn people for sounding like their influences, then we should not be Prince fans. HouseQuake, Sexy MF and Musicology... James Brown, Reflection... Joni Mitchell.. On The Couch sounds a lot like Sly and The Family Stones cover of Que. Sera Sera So What? Who Cares? It’s still good. Just like Africa is still a good song. Maggot Brain is very Hendrix esq ( damn good ) some folks influences show, I don't think anyone was condeming D' but moreso pointing it out. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: Meloh9 said: I'm glad somebody is paying homage to Prince, or stealing from him or whatever, better than all this other BS out these days, same with Andre 3000, he did the song Spread in the Camille voice, and they both openly acknowledge Prince as a influence. These artists keep the torch lit and they introduce these influences to a whole other generation of listeners. Prince sounds like Sly on all my dreams, he sounds like Sly on Make Yo Ma Ma Happy and like George Clinton and Sly on Erotic City, I got into sly and George Clinton because of Prince. I know a lot of people who started listening to Prince because of D’Angelo and OutKast. So if we are going to condemn people for sounding like their influences, then we should not be Prince fans. HouseQuake, Sexy MF and Musicology... James Brown, Reflection... Joni Mitchell.. On The Couch sounds a lot like Sly and The Family Stones cover of Que. Sera Sera So What? Who Cares? It’s still good. Just like Africa is still a good song. Maggot Brain is very Hendrix esq ( damn good ) some folks influences show, I don't think anyone was condeming D' but moreso pointing it out. Precisely. | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: Meloh9 said: I'm glad somebody is paying homage to Prince, or stealing from him or whatever, better than all this other BS out these days, same with Andre 3000, he did the song Spread in the Camille voice, and they both openly acknowledge Prince as a influence. These artists keep the torch lit and they introduce these influences to a whole other generation of listeners. Prince sounds like Sly on all my dreams, he sounds like Sly on Make Yo Ma Ma Happy and like George Clinton and Sly on Erotic City, I got into sly and George Clinton because of Prince. I know a lot of people who started listening to Prince because of D’Angelo and OutKast. So if we are going to condemn people for sounding like their influences, then we should not be Prince fans. HouseQuake, Sexy MF and Musicology... James Brown, Reflection... Joni Mitchell.. On The Couch sounds a lot like Sly and The Family Stones cover of Que. Sera Sera So What? Who Cares? It’s still good. Just like Africa is still a good song. Maggot Brain is very Hendrix esq ( damn good ) some folks influences show, I don't think anyone was condeming D' but moreso pointing it out. D got thrashed so bad in this thread I think it put me on the defense, I mean this thread turned racial and everything | |
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Meloh9 said: TheCrucialExperience said: I don't think anyone was condeming D' but moreso pointing it out. D got thrashed so bad in this thread I think it put me on the defense, I mean this thread turned racial and everything LOL! I feel ya, playa. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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Meloh9 said: TheCrucialExperience said: I don't think anyone was condeming D' but moreso pointing it out. D got thrashed so bad in this thread I think it put me on the defense, I mean this thread turned racial and everything Don't take my comment as a dig at D'angelo. I think Voodoo was an instant clasic. | |
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Meloh9 said: TheCrucialExperience said: I don't think anyone was condeming D' but moreso pointing it out. D got thrashed so bad in this thread I think it put me on the defense, I mean this thread turned racial and everything You're right about that... what trips me out is that some of the same folks who are so concerned with D'Angelo ripping off Prince will be in the Prince forum trying to "school" somebody on how unoriginal Prince was and how he stole ideas from Shadrack, Meshack and Abednego. In addition, if I started a Richard Pryor tribute thread right now I betcha wouldn't see any disgruntled folks about the word "nigga" | |
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AntonioFargas said: Meloh9 said: D got thrashed so bad in this thread I think it put me on the defense, I mean this thread turned racial and everything You're right about that... what trips me out is that some of the same folks who are so concerned with D'Angelo ripping off Prince will be in the Prince forum trying to "school" somebody on how unoriginal Prince was and how he stole ideas from Shadrack, Meshack and Abednego. In addition, if I started a Richard Pryor tribute thread right now I betcha wouldn't see any disgruntled folks about the word "nigga" LOL! I'm STILL waiting on YOU to tell me what did Kool & The Gang have to do with D' sounding like Prince? "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: AntonioFargas said: You're right about that... what trips me out is that some of the same folks who are so concerned with D'Angelo ripping off Prince will be in the Prince forum trying to "school" somebody on how unoriginal Prince was and how he stole ideas from Shadrack, Meshack and Abednego. In addition, if I started a Richard Pryor tribute thread right now I betcha wouldn't see any disgruntled folks about the word "nigga" LOL! I'm STILL waiting on YOU to tell me what did Kool & The Gang have to do with D' sounding like Prince? My response to you was in regards to the song Send it On. The entire song was a replayed version of Kool & the Gang's "Sea of Tranquility" ...a falsetto voice and a few howls doesn't always make a carbon copy of Prince. [Edited 8/9/05 23:13pm] | |
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