What's really surprising is that Voodoo won a Grammy award for Best R&B Album.

SweetKreme said:

"I Come To Bring The Pain."

SweetKreme said:

Ok! OUCH! Sheesh!

Sdldawn said:

I totally feel you on this. I downloaded Voodoo but loved it so much that I actually bought a copy. Brown Sugar is a great record, but it's a pop album. Voodoo goes a lot deeper than that. The sound, the mix, the jam session vibe, and the undercurrent of danger that are on Voodoo make it a better record because it's more than just a bunch of love songs (not that there's anything wrong with love songs). It shows growth in D'Angelo as an artist. Plus the album is great for so many situations-you could put it on in the background at a party, you could put it on for seduction purposes, it's good for after hours.....

AQnd those of you who said you didnt' listen to it more than twice, well, that's the thing about Voodoo. It's not an album you will get into the first time. It's quite a bit like Bitches Brew in the sense that you really have to listen to it a lot and give it a chance to seep in before you'll get it and enjoy it I think.

Well, obviously Untitled, but also Spanish Joint (highlight of the album, great Latin-Jazz influence), Send It On, Africa, The Root and The Line. I don't like the hip-hop-like songs like Left & Right.
Unlike Brown Sugar, wich I instantly loved, Voodoo 's getting better by the year.

its got some jams...spanish joint is mine

BT11 said:

That's what turned me off about this album.

Hotlegs said:

Yeah, I believe D' was one of the 1st R&B artists to do a joint with the rappers ALREADY on it as opposed to them coming in on a remixed version of the single that never had a rap verse on it in the 1st place, so THAT'S what irked the fuck outta me as well. Now it's common place for that shit and really a slap in the face of R&B artists who now NEED a rapper on their single in order to sell their records. Truly sad.

Hotlegs said:

Yes, but that is the only track that is like that...

so the rest of the album is pure gold

Sdldawn said:

Maybe ,In your opinion, it is but not in mine. There's only few cuts that I like on it.

TheCrucialExperience said:

-- You liked it!

SweetKreme said:

What's up with his new one?

calldapplwondery83 said:

That's a good question.

calldapplwondery83 said:

Well, he is due out...it's been about 5 YEARS since his DooDoo, and that was 5 years after he dropped "Sugar" so he's RIGHT ON TIME IF IT COMES OUT THIS YEAR!

"Left And Right" was previously released before Voodoo, but had to be included so people peeped the album. Same with "Devil's Pie" (from the Belly soundtrack). The album isn't even about the rap vibe at the beginning; those are the weakest links actually.


Tell me "Send It On" isn't brilliant.

Hotlegs said:

never meant that as a fact.. its purely just how I feel about it..

But this album does seperate D's capability in both albums.. which split both sides of his fan base in half.. the one's who prefer the polished debut.. to the more abstract soul album..

I dont consider his album neo soul.. simply because I never hear albums such as abstract and soulful as this one.. it truely seperates itself from the rest.. at least in the last 15 years.

It's highly ironic to me how any self-proclaiming "ologist" of funk can deny the power of this album... but whatever. If Brown Sugar set a precedent for neo-soul, then Voodoo set a precedent for the hopes of what soul music could become again: uninhibited, unrestricted and unlimted. Voodoo is a masterpiece and will be one of those albums that will always be a reference point to any future artist who claims to make soul music.

AntonioFargas said:

I'm sorry but Voodoo was Doo Doo as far as I am concerned.There's only few decent cuts on it that I like. It lacks constitnecy and flow.
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AntonioFargas said:

Actually, soul was never REALLY "uninhibited" as much as some of you pseudo-intellects wanna claim. I think some of you are falling in love with certain "words" and are just posting just to post. Calling Voodoo a "masterpiece" is SO OPINIONATED and not even CLOSE to "WELL DOCUMENTED."

Hotlegs said:

So be it. Different strokes right? I'm just suprised that someone so well learned in funk would dismiss an album with so many funky influences. Many are so quick to dismiss Voodoo as a boring bland Prince copy, but miss the subtle influences of tracks like the Ohio Players "Players Ballin'", Kool & the Gang's 'Sea of Tranquility', Sly's 'Poet'.

AntonioFargas said:

That's exactly what it was shit that turn me off.

TheCrucialExperience said:

that's cool... like Sly said Different Strokes...
my opinion that it's a masterpiece is no more valid than your less than flattering opinion of the LP.

Some folks said the same shit about Sly after he released Riot. He lost many with that album and even more after the release of Fresh. But some 30 years later both albums are heralded as undisputed classics. Time will be the ultimate factor. The fact that Voodoo is an album that is still worthy of discussion after 5 years should leave you open to believe that maybe the album isn't as bad as you think it is.
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AntonioFargas said:

Just because something is still being discussed many years later doesn't mean the project in discussion was a GOOD project. They talk about Slavery still too...was Slavery not as bad as we all thought it was?

TheCrucialExperience said:

apples... oranges...

oppression of a race of people vs. the credibilty of an album...
somebody's about to put their foot in their mouth.
[Edited 8/6/05 12:13pm]

AntonioFargas said:

Apples and Oranges - BOTHgrow on TREES. TREES = PRINCIPLE. The PRINCIPLE is what the issue is, not the subjects you chose. Someone's about to get a foot broken off in that ass, I'm the last cat you wanna tussle with in a debate.

TheCrucialExperience said:

Like a dull knife just ain't cuttin...

Look chief, I was about to discuss time being the a major factor in determining what makes an album classic and somehow you made a wrong turn into a poorly devised analogy regarding slavery. Two entirely different subjects that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Unless you can make it more plain for a "pseudo-intellect" like myself, I don't think you should tackle that subject.

Apples, oranges, fruit, trees, priniciple and breaking feet off in asses? I think someone is either over-stimulated or just "posting to be posting."

Now your point is what?

I think the reasons I dig this album is the amount of time it took for me to understand it.. and I never once considered it boaring.. it was an abstract soul sound I've never really heard.. most of the stuff I have/heard are too locked into the structure of the ways of the past soul/pop or whatever.. the forumlas thats been here. Not thats a bad thing.. but D dropped his debut album.. and then came out with this experimental disk that pretty much would turn the mass away from it..

I think the fact that he didnt release an album like the brown sugar is what turns alot of people off.. they were craving more of that style from him, and suprisingly D stuck to his guns and released a whopper of an album.. for many to appreciate.. I appreciated the eclectic definitions he presents in his music (Voodoo).. it wasn't your ordinary walk in the park.

Sdldawn said:

Does the LP sound like a Prince imitation to you? I know personally, I hear touches of Prince in 4 songs only: Left & Right, Chicken Grease, Untitled and Africa. But out of 13 songs I don't think that constitutes a "Prince copy"

AntonioFargas said:

This is what

YOU typed:

Now, I can name about 50 albums that people STILL talk about TODAY from 5-50 years ago that ARE CRAP. THAT was my point: Discussing an album doesn't make it "A CLASSIC" nor "NOT AS BAD AS ONE THINKS IT IS."

Just because people still talk about VooDoo TODAY, 5 years later, IN NO WAY DOES THAT MEAN IT "COULD" BE A CLASSIC OR ISN'T "AS BAD AS ONE THINKS IT IS."

Your statement was false. F-A-L-S-E. Because it makes no sense. Case closed.
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