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Printableshygirl said: I think the black community should give MJ the same support he has given them, which isn't a whole hell of a lot.
Maybe MJ can tour the country and pass out free bleach and plastic surgery coupons to the black community so we can f*ck up our faces just like he did. But more to the point, why should you support someone who you feel is a criminal? OJ was found not guilty by a jury, but I still believe he murdered two people. Obviously the opinion of the jury was more important to OJ, but my opinion didn't change cause 12 people said not guilty. And because 12 people said MJ's not guilty didn't change my opinion one iota. I believe he is a child molester and he got away with it. Truth is, MJ doesn't give people of any race a whole lot to support. He's just a pathetic character who did himself in. I don't want to rehash the trial,but I'm not so sure that Michael was guilty or these charges or is a child molester. I saw that last part of an Oprah episode today on pedophiles, and true some stuff "fits" Michael's m/o, but some key elements do not. Like this one major point: children victimized by pedophiles more often than not try to "avoid" or "escape" them. Even though the children have been "groomed," and "manipulated," they still feel uncomfortable with the abuser even though the abuser WANTS to be in their company. I thought that was an interest point that started me thinking about the accusations against Michael. To my knowledge NONE of the alleged victims of present or past ever wanted to "avoid" Michael. The mother in this case wanted to leave Neverland, but not so much the kids, ya know?? I don't AGREE with slumber parties as I previously stated much earlier, but I'm not so sure that Michael is actually a pedophile. Some of the MOST OBVIOUS criteria that Oprah discussed "matched-up," but there was some more subtle that didn't. | |
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Isel said: shygirl said: I think the black community should give MJ the same support he has given them, which isn't a whole hell of a lot.
Maybe MJ can tour the country and pass out free bleach and plastic surgery coupons to the black community so we can f*ck up our faces just like he did. But more to the point, why should you support someone who you feel is a criminal? OJ was found not guilty by a jury, but I still believe he murdered two people. Obviously the opinion of the jury was more important to OJ, but my opinion didn't change cause 12 people said not guilty. And because 12 people said MJ's not guilty didn't change my opinion one iota. I believe he is a child molester and he got away with it. Truth is, MJ doesn't give people of any race a whole lot to support. He's just a pathetic character who did himself in. I don't want to rehash the trial,but I'm not so sure that Michael was guilty or these charges or is a child molester. I saw that last part of an Oprah episode today on pedophiles, and true some stuff "fits" Michael's m/o, but some key elements do not. Like this one major point: children victimized by pedophiles more often than not try to "avoid" or "escape" them. Even though the children have been "groomed," and "manipulated," they still feel uncomfortable with the abuser even though the abuser WANTS to be in their company. I thought that was an interest point that started me thinking about the accusations against Michael. To my knowledge NONE of the alleged victims of present or past ever wanted to "avoid" Michael. The mother in this case wanted to leave Neverland, but not so much the kids, ya know?? I don't AGREE with slumber parties as I previously stated much earlier, but I'm not so sure that Michael is actually a pedophile. Some of the MOST OBVIOUS criteria that Oprah discussed "matched-up," but there was some more subtle that didn't. don't mind shygirl, every post I've read from her is the same, pre-trial or post, she is a hater. Why respond to someone who thinks you can achieve MJ's skin color by using retail bleaching cream  | |
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Michaels best support IS the black community, which the black stations are the ony ones left who still plays his catologue i will never dance | |
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sirnozedevoidofunk said: Michaels best support IS the black community, which the black stations are the ony ones left who still plays his catologue
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Michaels best support IS the black community, which the black stations are the ony ones left who still plays his catologue
Uhh no. I live in Cincinnati and there are lots of radio stations that have tons of white people who run the station and who are djs and they play his music a lot. Like the oldies channel this one dj who said that he loves Michael Jackson and plays him all the time. I am sick of this "oh only the black community supports MJ. Not true they are many white people that support Michael. In fact most of his fans in the U.S. are white females and black males. | |
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I think the black community should give MJ the same support he has given them, which isn't a whole hell of a lot.
Maybe MJ can tour the country and pass out free bleach and plastic surgery coupons to the black community so we can f*ck up our faces just like he did. But more to the point, why should you support someone who you feel is a criminal? OJ was found not guilty by a jury, but I still believe he murdered two people. Obviously the opinion of the jury was more important to OJ, but my opinion didn't change cause 12 people said not guilty. And because 12 people said MJ's not guilty didn't change my opinion one iota. I believe he is a child molester and he got away with it. Truth is, MJ doesn't give people of any race a whole lot to support. He's just a pathetic character who did himself in. Michael Jackson transcends race. You have got to be kidding about the amount of the support Michael has given back to the black community. He was the first African American on MTV. He broke down that barrier so black singers, rappers could be able to be recognized and played on mtv, vh1 and mainstream radio.If it wasn't for him, black singers/rappers wouldn't be played on mtv,vh1 or mainstream radio today. What Michael wants to do with his face is his own business, not yours, not the world. I believe Michael Jackson is innocent. I don't feel sorry for him for this whole ordeal because he got himself into this situation by sharing his bed with children. I was molested when I was young and I don't believe that teenage boy. There is no set profile for a child molester. Look at all those catholic priests who are molesting young boys. You wouldn't think that they would do anything like that but they do. | |
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Krytonite said: R+B producer JERMAINE DUPRI is urging his fellow African Americans to offer his future brother-in-law MICHAEL JACKSON all the support they can because he deserves more respect.
The Atlanta, Georgia-based mogul, who is dating JANET JACKSON, admits he was appalled with the way America's black population turned their backs on the King of Pop when he needed them most - at the height of his child molestation trial. He says, "It's clear that Michael was set up... What's foolish about it is that our own community jokes about it (trial). If ELVIS (PRESLEY) were still alive, they would never let anything happen to him. "What I hate about the black community is we don't protect our own... He's the only living legend that touched all our lives." source contactmusic Jermaine Dupri needs to get his head out of Michael Jackson's ass. Screw that self-hating freak. Oh, he's 'black' now? Please. I've had enough of these BWC(Black When Convenient) celebrities & athletes. They all come running back when they get in trouble, or when their careers are in the toilet. Y'all know who I'm talking about. Speaking for myself. f--k them. [Edited 8/2/05 21:33pm] |
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Jermaine Dupri needs to get his head out of Michael Jackson's ass. Screw that self-hating freak. Oh, he's 'black' now? Please. I've had enough of these BWC(Black When Convenient) celebrities & athletes. They all come running back when they get in trouble, or when their careers are in the toilet.
What? You don't think he's black because he don't fit the stereotypical black person profile. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Michaels best support IS the black community, which the black stations are the ony ones left who still plays his catologue
Uhh no. I live in Cincinnati and there are lots of radio stations that have tons of white people who run the station and who are djs and they play his music a lot. Like the oldies channel this one dj who said that he loves Michael Jackson and plays him all the time. I am sick of this "oh only the black community supports MJ. Not true they are many white people that support Michael. In fact most of his fans in the U.S. are white females and black males. Here in Minneapolis we only have one real black station called "KMOJ - Soul Of The Cities", the only one which plays Michael Jackson and back catologues to this day. The others are 2 exact copies of eachother - B96 (from Chicago) and KDWB whom both are owned and operated by Clear Channel. The other stations are either Alternative, Lite Rock, or Country. Even AM. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Ahh, the power of the pussy... make a muufucka say some crazy shit!
   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: Ahh, the power of the pussy... make a muufucka say some crazy shit!
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Krytonite said: R+B producer JERMAINE DUPRI is urging his fellow African Americans to offer his future brother-in-law MICHAEL JACKSON all the support they can because he deserves more respect.
The Atlanta, Georgia-based mogul, who is dating JANET JACKSON, admits he was appalled with the way America's black population turned their backs on the King of Pop when he needed them most - at the height of his child molestation trial. He says, "It's clear that Michael was set up... What's foolish about it is that our own community jokes about it (trial). If ELVIS (PRESLEY) were still alive, they would never let anything happen to him. "What I hate about the black community is we don't protect our own... He's the only living legend that touched all our lives." source contactmusic JERMAINE DUPRI  You Yellow Teeth, Balding Midget.
WE ALL now know 100% for sure MJ is a molester-pedophile. The 1993 errect penis description & drawings matched! IF they didn't match, then Tom Mez would have begged for the photos to come into this trial to help destroy the 1993 part of the 1108 evidence. But thats not what Tom Mez did, he fought his hardest to keep those photos out of this case! Very simple, case closed. Michael Jackson is a Child Molester-Pedophile. Not in with this 2003 Victim. But clearly in 1993. Does Johnnie Cocharan look like the kind of Lawyer that would fight for his client to settle! NO, less then one year later.. he took on a case with OJ Simpson where OJ's Blood was everywhere at the crime scene. That tells you allot about Cocharan his guts and drive. It also tells us allot of what kind of Evidence was in that 1993 Sex Case against Michael Jackson. The Errect photos & description are the nail in MJ's coffin. Tom Mez fighting to keep them out,tells everyone everything you need to know! Everything thing else you hear is SPIN from crazy delusional fans, MJ Public Relations Department & now Jermaine Dupri Simple as this: If the photos didn't match. Tom Mez would have BEGGED for the photos to come in! Because that would destroy the 1993 victim & the 1993 Section of the 1108 Evidence. Tom Sneddon fought his hardest for the photos to COME IN. Tom Mez fought his hardest for the photos to STAY OUT. Case closed- MJ is a Pedophile-Molester. | |
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ElectricBlue said: Krytonite said: R+B producer JERMAINE DUPRI is urging his fellow African Americans to offer his future brother-in-law MICHAEL JACKSON all the support they can because he deserves more respect.
The Atlanta, Georgia-based mogul, who is dating JANET JACKSON, admits he was appalled with the way America's black population turned their backs on the King of Pop when he needed them most - at the height of his child molestation trial. He says, "It's clear that Michael was set up... What's foolish about it is that our own community jokes about it (trial). If ELVIS (PRESLEY) were still alive, they would never let anything happen to him. "What I hate about the black community is we don't protect our own... He's the only living legend that touched all our lives." source contactmusic JERMAINE DUPRI You Yellow Teeth, Balding Midget.
WE ALL now know 100% for sure MJ is a molester-pedophile. The 1993 errect penis description & drawings matched! IF they didn't match, then Tom Mez would have begged for the photos to come into this trial to help destroy the 1993 part of the 1108 evidence. But thats not what Tom Mez did, he fought his hardest to keep those photos out of this case! Very simple, case closed. Michael Jackson is a Child Molester-Pedophile. Not in with this 2003 Victim. But clearly in 1993. Does Johnnie Cocharan look like the kind of Lawyer that would fight for his client to settle! NO, less then one year later.. he took on a case with OJ Simpson where OJ's Blood was everywhere at the crime scene. That tells you allot about Cocharan his guts and drive. It also tells us allot of what kind of Evidence was in that 1993 Sex Case against Michael Jackson. The Errect photos & description are the nail in MJ's coffin. Tom Mez fighting to keep them out,tells everyone everything you need to know! Everything thing else you hear is SPIN from crazy delusional fans, MJ Public Relations Department & now Jermaine Dupri Simple as this: If the photos didn't match. Tom Mez would have BEGGED for the photos to come in! Because that would destroy the 1993 victim & the 1993 Section of the 1108 Evidence. Tom Sneddon fought his hardest for the photos to COME IN. Tom Mez fought his hardest for the photos to STAY OUT. Case closed- MJ is a Pedophile-Molester. please, first of all, the drawing didnt match up, second of all even if it did there are ways he could of seen his private without michael showing it to him, ever heard of peeping toms, peeping to see someone naked? or walking in on people accidently, but then again why am i even saying this as it didnt match up. thirdly no one knows hes 100 percent guilty, thats your opinion, dont go pinning it on the rest of us. michael and t mez fought them out because he didnt want people seeing his penis, who the fuck would? everyone knows how shy michael is and it would be the worst thing in the world for him to have anymore people see it. and why the hell would a peadophile only molest 1 boy on 1 occasion his whole entire life thats not what peadophiles do.
and lastly you are a fucking pathetic loser - cased closed [Edited 8/3/05 2:42am] | |
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Ha, they didn't match up at all. Find me a man with vitiligo and I'll guess they'll have "markings" on parts of their body I've never seen and likely be right. Seen the drawing and the description? That was it, just an allegation that he has markings - oh, and that he was circumcised, which was incorrect.
Funny thing is with haters is that they don't believe MJ has vitiligo when it's convenient to them, despite all the evidence, his dermatologist testifying with a waiver about his medication under oath etc. but when they wanna believe that shite match-up story they'll forget their other arguments. For the record, the Grand Jury members in 1994 all came out and said they had no incriminating evidence presented to them to indict. That case was as weak as the 2003 one, only concocted by more intelligent people and that civil preceeding criminal law on their side which has since changed. | |
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Ellie said: Ha, they didn't match up at all. Find me a man with vitiligo and I'll guess they'll have "markings" on parts of their body I've never seen and likely be right. Seen the drawing and the description? That was it, just an allegation that he has markings - oh, and that he was circumcised, which was incorrect.
Funny thing is with haters is that they don't believe MJ has vitiligo when it's convenient to them, despite all the evidence, his dermatologist testifying with a waiver about his medication under oath etc. but when they wanna believe that shite match-up story they'll forget their other arguments. For the record, the Grand Jury members in 1994 all came out and said they had no incriminating evidence presented to them to indict. That case was as weak as the 2003 one, only concocted by more intelligent people and that civil preceeding criminal law on their side which has since changed.  Well Said Ellie. | |
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Remember the allegation/rumour that Michael had a tattoo of a strawberry on his butt?  | |
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If I were MJ I would pretend this whole trial ordeal never happened.
Not give interviews to anyone concerning the trial. Be upfront before the any interview & say I'm not talking about the trial or anything pertaining to it or any other legal issues or my personal life. I will only talk about my music. Its over & he should let it be. If he refuses to talk about it the talk will die down. If he talks about it the whole shit will start again. Its over - let it die. | |
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Ellie said: Ha, they didn't match up at all.
why even bother, we showed him that stupid drawing and he's still saying the same shit. | |
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ya know...i aint even finish reading this LONG ASS thread. but it seems that ALL the blame is being put on mj. what about the parents? these dumb muthafuckas are the ones that ALLOWED their children to share the room, bed, floor or whatever. they should recieve just as much blame, shame, dismissal, etc... as mike does Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Moonwalkbjrain said: ya know...i aint even finish reading this LONG ASS thread. but it seems that ALL the blame is being put on mj. what about the parents? these dumb muthafuckas are the ones that ALLOWED their children to share the room, bed, floor or whatever. they should recieve just as much blame, shame, dismissal, etc... as mike does
I totally agree.Mike has had his trial.Now,let's put the neglectful parents on trial! | |
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MsLegs said: CalhounSq said: Ahh, the power of the pussy... make a muufucka say some crazy shit!
Preach
"Pussy Control"
ahahahahahhaha.....that midget neva had it so good. | |
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Here in Minneapolis we only have one real black station called "KMOJ - Soul Of The Cities", the only one which plays Michael Jackson and back catologues to this day.
That sucks. Well there is a 100.9 the wiz...and that is a black owned station and they play all thug crap. They play him on old school lunch and played him the whole lunch hour when he was vindicated. There are a ton of white owned radio stations where I live that play his music so you can't say that all white people don't support him. | |
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please, first of all, the drawing didnt match up, second of all even if it did there are ways he could of seen his private without michael showing it to him, ever heard of peeping toms, peeping to see someone naked? or walking in on people accidently, but then again why am i even saying this as it didnt match up. thirdly no one knows hes 100 percent guilty, thats your opinion, dont go pinning it on the rest of us. michael and t mez fought them out because he didnt want people seeing his penis, who the fuck would? everyone knows how shy michael is and it would be the worst thing in the world for him to have anymore people see it. and why the hell would a peadophile only molest 1 boy on 1 occasion his whole entire life thats not what peadophiles do.
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I'm glad I'm not in America. Our radio stations are never that picky about demographics all all that crap, cos airplay doesn't count in the charts. I like our Radio 1's All Request days where they have to play anything asked for, even old skool TV themes
Man, we went out clubbing the night of the verdict and they were playing his music everywhere we went. Then again, most people out clubbing that time on that Monday night would have been Jacko fans  | |
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Ellie said: I'm glad I'm not in America. Our radio stations are never that picky about demographics all all that crap, cos airplay doesn't count in the charts. I like our Radio 1's All Request days where they have to play anything asked for, even old skool TV themes
Man, we went out clubbing the night of the verdict and they were playing his music everywhere we went. Then again, most people out clubbing that time on that Monday night would have been Jacko fans | |
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hellomoto said: and lastly you are a fucking pathetic loser - cased closed
[Edited 8/3/05 2:42am] Why is he a loser? You may not agree with him, but folks are allowed to express their opinions. |
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Why is he a loser? You may not agree with him, but folks are allowed to express their opinions.
Yes but he said this WE ALL now know 100% for sure MJ is a molester-pedophile
That's what set her off. He's trying to pin his opinion on everyone and say that we all feel that way which is not true. | |
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laurarichardson said: jjhunsecker said: But I still want to know why we as a community should just automatically stand behind people who may have fucked up ? I understand the impulse, guven the history that we as Black people in this country have faced. It's natural to try to rally around folks when they're down. But in this day and age, I think that this "reflexive" support does the Black community more harm than good. It's almost like saying to the rest of America : "Black people don't care about facts, or the truth, or Right and Wrong. They only care about their image ." Me personally, if someone does something I think is wrong, I'll criticize for it. I wouldn't care if it was my own parents. Fucked up behavior is fucked up behavior, no matter who did it or how much you liked their last CD ----- "automatically stand behind people who may have fucked up ? " We don't stand behind everyone. I don't know anybody black who really cared about O.J. we just wanted him to get a fair trail. There is so much history in the USA of discrimination that we still need to stand together. You don't want the divide and conquer technique to start becoming effective. At the same time we also need to correct people when they are wrong. You could blame Mike's family for some of is behavior. We in the Black Community need to THINK first, then if the cause is just , Stand Together. We can't just automatically jump the gun, and support people for faulty reasons. Elsewise, we look like idiots. As for Michael, I have great respect for his talent, and I'd never take that away from him. But I definitely think he has some psychological problems. Maybe his upbringing is to blame, but he is definitely disturbed . And I also think he's done something improper with children over the years. He paid $15-20 million to one boy, and $2 million to another. That's a hell of a lot of money to pay out if you were "innocent" !! And then to go TV and say there's nothing wrong with sharing your bed with a child that is not your own, shows how out of touch he is with societal norms. He probably truly believed that was appropriate behavior #SOCIETYDEFINESU | |
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Erm, he didn't pay a penny of that $15m in '94. It was an insurance company. | |
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