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Printablelilgish said: LittleBLUECorvette said: I have yet to see promotion on this record.
what the fuck you think this is!!!  | |
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Looks like Papa Joe has adopted a marketing tool from 50 Cent:
Promotion by intimidation instilling fear if you DON'T buy the album.  | |
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CalhounSq said: jn2 said:
 "whas so funneh!!??" 
oooooh u in trouble! Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records. | |
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MJ looks great on the album cover, but Enough with the greatest hits albums already!!!!.i already have History, Number ones + the ultimate collection + all the other albums. lets have some new material ! "Americans consume the most fast food than any nation on Earth and the stupid motherfuckers wonder why they are so fat? " - Oprah Winfrey | |
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thesexofit said: krayzie said: Sly is so overrated, very sad... so is that man in ur av.
[Edited 7/31/05 16:02pm] neither is and sly is, if anything UNDER rated. | |
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as always, the simple news that this album is NOT selling, which
even made our local newspaper here in Holland, will increase the sales of this album hugely over the next week since all these so called negative articles convey simply one thing, and that's the news that this compilation was released in the first place. mark my words, the coming week this album will sell at least 10 times as much simply due to the negative press it received. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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8000 copies is really low,but honestly,who doesn't already own a compilation of his greatest hits by now?? There have been numerous other compilations,and even a multi-disc box set.It's pointless to go out and buy a Michael Jackson compilation featuring songs that you already have.Sony is just trying to cash in on the MJ media circus ("Hey,MJ was acquitted....let's release yet another compilation of his greatest hits!").Actually,his fans should boycott this release,to show Sony that they're fed up with the same songs being re-packaged and re-sold over and over. | |
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Another complaint: if record labels are gonna continue to release compilations over and over,why not add some rare stuff that you don't see on the other compilations? You know....give fans an extra incentive to run out and buy these things.For example,they could have added the following tracks to this set:
"Say Say Say" (with Paul McCartney) 12" version "State Of Shock" (with Mick Jagger) 12" version "Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin" with Jermaine Jackson Hell,even I would have went out and bought this thing if it included those tracks | |
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JonSnow said: lilgish said: It would, but I never disputed that. You say MJ is done and compare his sales with Madonna. MJ sales twice to three times the units Madge moves each week. American life sold less than Invincible. Point. Madonna is not selling more or much more than MJ right now. This disc also cost 30.00 dollars, so it's not like madge was gonna move 200 - 300,000 on this. Invincible vs. American Life is not relevant to MJ selling 8k copies right now. Again, Bruce Springsteen's similar compilation, with similar packaging, debuted at #14. MJ? #128. Obviously, you don't know what you 're talking about! First, MJ has and will always sell more records than Madonna. Just check weekly Soundscan sales for both artists, Michael sells more than twice as many records than her, and it don't even count his Jackson 5 material. Second, Bruce Springsteen's latest album Devils and Dusts debuted at #1 on Billboard but has since scanned about 500.000 copies and he's near to be off the charts. By comparison, Jackson's 2001 Greatest Hits Vol.1 debuted at #80 but has scanned close to 800.000 units to date. What does it prove: The final results is what matters. Otherwise, Jackson's The Essential is #6 on the European charts. | |
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JonSnow said: lilgish said: It would, but I never disputed that. You say MJ is done and compare his sales with Madonna. MJ sales twice to three times the units Madge moves each week. American life sold less than Invincible. Point. Madonna is not selling more or much more than MJ right now. This disc also cost 30.00 dollars, so it's not like madge was gonna move 200 - 300,000 on this. Invincible vs. American Life is not relevant to MJ selling 8k copies right now. Again, Bruce Springsteen's similar compilation, with similar packaging, debuted at #14. MJ? #128. obviously, like speed demon said, you dont know what your talking about. i think an album of new material is MUCH more important then some weakass 1000th greatest hits package. and obviously you forgot about 'number ones' which sold almost amillion in america and 7 million worldwide, hardly a flop (well actually maybe it is by michaels standards, but that just proves how popular he is if 7 million is considered a flop). invincible sold a hell of a lot (we're talking millions and millions) more than american life in the us and worldwide, yet michaels over and madonnas not  and by the way im glad this tanked, hopefully it will teach sony something[Edited 8/1/05 5:35am] | |
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Sure,Michael sells more records than Madonna,but let's be honest....her career is in a healthier state than his is right now.If he's really selling so many records these days,why do we keep hearing stories of his neverending financial problems? While he was on trial for child molestation,Madonna went on tour last year and grossed over $124 million.She doesn't carry around the negative "baggage" that follows him wherever he goes.I'm a fan of his,but please...let's stop throwing his sales figures around as if it really changes his situation.In his case,record sales tell only part of the story.
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Ok, it's a Madonna thread again. NEXT! | |
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DavidEye said: 8000 copies is really low,but honestly,who doesn't already own a compilation of his greatest hits by now?? There have been numerous other compilations,and even a multi-disc box set.It's pointless to go out and buy a Michael Jackson compilation featuring songs that you already have.Sony is just trying to cash in on the MJ media circus ("Hey,MJ was acquitted....let's release yet another compilation of his greatest hits!").Actually,his fans should boycott this release,to show Sony that they're fed up with the same songs being re-packaged and re-sold over and over.
I'd love to meet the idiots who come up with these ideas.  | |
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onenitealone said: DavidEye said: 8000 copies is really low,but honestly,who doesn't already own a compilation of his greatest hits by now?? There have been numerous other compilations,and even a multi-disc box set.It's pointless to go out and buy a Michael Jackson compilation featuring songs that you already have.Sony is just trying to cash in on the MJ media circus ("Hey,MJ was acquitted....let's release yet another compilation of his greatest hits!").Actually,his fans should boycott this release,to show Sony that they're fed up with the same songs being re-packaged and re-sold over and over.
I'd love to meet the idiots who come up with these ideas. What's sad is that....even if he were found guilty and sent to prison,they'd still try to cash in on that scenario too,lol. | |
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As i have these songs on the studio albums, I passed on this, passed on 'Number Ones' too. I bought The Ultimate Collection for the unreleased stuff and bought HIStory.
That's all i need until a new album hits. |
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JonSnow said: lilgish said: ok, so why did Invincible sell more than American Life? Is Madonna done in the U.S to? Invincible was a huge disappointment, and so was American Life. We are talking about a PATTERN of failures and disappointments for MJ, topped off by the spectacularly poor showing of his new collection. Madonna has had one sub-par sales performace. If she ever releases a compliation that sells 8,000 copies then, yes, she may be finished. Of course, I don't think anybody here believes that would ever happen. The last time an MJ album sold up to expectations in the US was "Dangerous", and even that is arguable. But even at the time of "invincible", MJ - while no longer the force he once was - was still a major player on the charts. Well, kinda... But now - 8,000!?!?!?!?!?! - he is done in the US. Oh... and can you please answer this question: If Madonna released a 2-CD "essential collection" tomorrow - even though she already has 3 previous compilations - would it, or would it not, sell more than 8 thousand copies? [Edited 7/31/05 18:00pm] It's hard to say! I think in similar circumstances, Madonna would do slightly better. Even if she did release such a collection (which is higly unlikely) and it did those numbers, I wouldn't say she was done. This is not a good measure of how an artist career is going. Cher recently released a highly publicized hits CD to coincide with her tour and it did really well (probably her second best seller in the US) but that isn't an indication of how her next CD will do. Since then, there have been numerous other hits sets on Cher out (including "Cher Gold" which is akin to "The Essentail...." collections). | |
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DavidEye said: Sure,Michael sells more records than Madonna,but let's be honest....her career is in a healthier state than his is right now.While he was on trial for child molestation,she went on tour last year and grossed over $124 million.She doesn't carry around the negative "baggage" that follows him wherever he goes.I'm a fan of his,but please...let's stop throwing his sales figures around as if it really changes his situation.In his case,record sales tell only part of the story.
... [Edited 8/1/05 6:09am] Did Sony rush release this? I have an idea it was coming out anyway. Certaintly not a great idea. | |
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VinnyM27 said: DavidEye said: Sure,Michael sells more records than Madonna,but let's be honest....her career is in a healthier state than his is right now.If he's really selling so many records these days,why do we keep hearing stories of his neverending financial problems? While he was on trial for child molestation,she went on tour last year and grossed over $124 million.She doesn't carry around the negative "baggage" that follows him wherever he goes.I'm a fan of his,but please...let's stop throwing his sales figures around as if it really changes his situation.In his case,record sales tell only part of the story.
Did Sony rush release this? I have an idea it was coming out anyway. Certaintly not a great idea. I don't know if they rush-released it,but the timing seems suspect to me. | |
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Can't say about Madonna. GHV2 hardly set the charts alight. Over here it had an absolutely massive promo campaign and was overshipped to stores. It's still falling out of the bargain bins at around £3.99 to this day. | |
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Ellie said: Can't say about Madonna. GHV2 hardly set the charts alight. Over here it had an absolutely massive promo campaign and was overshipped to stores. It's still falling out of the bargain bins at around £3.99 to this day.
Greatest Hits Volume 2 managed to sell okay.It's total worldwide sales are over 7 million copies (not bad considering it was hastily thrown together with sloppy single edits and no new tracks).And her previous compilation of hits ('The Immaculate Collection') boasts worldwide sales of 22 million copies. | |
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Yep, exactly the same as Number Ones, only GHV2 contained songs not previously available on a compilation. | |
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DavidEye said: VinnyM27 said: Did Sony rush release this? I have an idea it was coming out anyway. Certaintly not a great idea. I don't know if they rush-released it,but the timing seems suspect to me. Got ya. | |
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