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Thread started 07/25/05 10:26am

asg

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CD sales having horrible year

In 2000 it hit the top at 942mil units sold

in 2005 with more then 6montrths gone its only 293mil if u double it less then 600mil for the whole yr but i think cd sales r more brisk at the end of the yr.Maybe my assumption isnt entirely true


There is like a 57% drop in cd sales since the yr 2000


Don't blame it on illegal downloads

Legal downloads are also contributing

98% of the itunes downloads are singles

ppl just get the songs they want and dont download the whole cd

Biggest album so far is 50cent sellin 4mil cds

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Reply #1 posted 07/25/05 10:31am

VoicesCarry

They'll live. lol

But yes, CD sales do pick up towards the end of the year.
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Reply #2 posted 07/25/05 10:31am

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Sales are down again, but should pick up around October due to Christmas shopping.

Regardless, I think it'll be a long time before sales hit the highs they had around 1999-2000.
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Reply #3 posted 07/25/05 10:45am

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There just aren't a lot of great releases coming out, at least from what I see. No big names and even those with big names aren't selling like they used to. I have an idea that this will be a really good fall and/or fourth quarter though.

Unrelated, I know that Alanis Morriesette's unplugged "Jagged Little Pill" comes out to all stores this week but not one of the stores has it in their ads. Are they holding a grudge becuase it was a available so long at Starbucks first? I know it won't be the biggest seller but it wouldn't hurt to put it in the ads and put it at a good sale price.
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Reply #4 posted 07/25/05 10:50am

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VinnyM27 said:

There just aren't a lot of great releases coming out, at least from what I see. No big names and even those with big names aren't selling like they used to. I have an idea that this will be a really good fall and/or fourth quarter though.


2005 hasn't had too many worthwile releases. '03 & '04 were better album years than this one, IMHO.

Also, it seems like all the really good albums ("the keepers") tend to come out in fourth quarter. So I'm looking forward to the fall. I already have in mind some of my purchases.

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Reply #5 posted 07/25/05 10:54am

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Hopefully this signals that the entire music bizz will collapse soon. A man can dream....
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #6 posted 07/25/05 2:07pm

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clapping I could care less about cd sale's



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Reply #7 posted 07/25/05 5:03pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Hopefully this signals that the entire music bizz will collapse soon. A man can dream....


nod The music industry is horrible right now.
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Reply #8 posted 07/25/05 5:03pm

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mrwigglesdaw1rm said:

clapping I could care less about cd sale's



cool Bubba :"Give me back my daddy's records" - Sanford & Son


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Reply #9 posted 07/25/05 6:15pm

Thumparello

Today's music sucks!!


Give the people what they want, when they want and they'll want it all the time.
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Reply #10 posted 07/25/05 6:49pm

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the "majors" have only themselves to blame. they have run the industry into the ground by spending millions of dollars on product that fades with the changing fads, and ignore bands and artists with true talent that could end up being the next REM, U2, Prince, etc.. if given a chance.

The music industry as we have known it is changing. With digital music becoming more and more prevelant, and so many people walking around w/ ipods, it is going to change. It already is. The industry will need to adapt.
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Reply #11 posted 07/25/05 8:42pm

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asg said:

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98% of the itunes downloads are singles

ppl just get the songs they want and dont download the whole cd




nod Maybe, like me, too many times they've bought albums and then been disappointed when it turned out that the single was the only good song on it!

Maybe we'll move away from the whole "album" paradigm, and artists will just put out individual tracks (songs)? shrug
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Reply #12 posted 07/25/05 8:47pm

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JonSnow said:

the "majors" have only themselves to blame. they have run the industry into the ground by spending millions of dollars on product that fades with the changing fads, and ignore bands and artists with true talent that could end up being the next REM, U2, Prince, etc.. if given a chance.

The music industry as we have known it is changing. With digital music becoming more and more prevelant, and so many people walking around w/ ipods, it is going to change. It already is. The industry will need to adapt.


clapping Very well said. It's true that other forms of entertainment are successfully competing for consumer $$$. But the industry will never be healthy unless the execs stop focusing on making a quick buck off the latest manufactured sensation.
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Reply #13 posted 07/25/05 9:57pm

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Axchi696 said:

Sales are down again, but should pick up around October due to Christmas shopping.

Regardless, I think it'll be a long time before sales hit the highs they had around 1999-2000.



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Reply #14 posted 07/25/05 10:08pm

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yeah but they are making money off downloads and ringtones.
EG Gwen Stefani is close to selling 1 million downloads of "Hollaback girl" in the U.S alone at $1. that's a million dollars profit and they cut out the middle man, retail, distrubution and so on. They'll always find a way to make money
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Reply #15 posted 07/25/05 11:51pm

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yeah but they are making money off downloads and ringtones.
EG Gwen Stefani is close to selling 1 million downloads of "Hollaback girl" in the U.S alone at $1. that's a million dollars profit and they cut out the middle man, retail, distrubution and so on. They'll always find a way to make money



They make some money but remeber aftrer so many yrs itunes just sold 500mil song
so the record companies made less then 400mil in couple of yrs which isnt much

apple only pays 70cent for the song to the record company

i know gwen paid dr dre 250k-300k for the rich gal song for production cost only
( Dr dre gives a discount to artist on his label only 75k plus share of profit)
cost of video
cost of promotion


they is nothing left after u add up all the costs
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Reply #16 posted 07/26/05 12:17am

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asg said:

twink69 said:

yeah but they are making money off downloads and ringtones.
EG Gwen Stefani is close to selling 1 million downloads of "Hollaback girl" in the U.S alone at $1. that's a million dollars profit and they cut out the middle man, retail, distrubution and so on. They'll always find a way to make money



They make some money but remeber aftrer so many yrs itunes just sold 500mil song
so the record companies made less then 400mil in couple of yrs which isnt much

apple only pays 70cent for the song to the record company

i know gwen paid dr dre 250k-300k for the rich gal song for production cost only
( Dr dre gives a discount to artist on his label only 75k plus share of profit)
cost of video
cost of promotion


they is nothing left after u add up all the costs
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[Edited 7/26/05 0:03am]


But they are making more money than they would had they sold actuall CD singles in stores. also that money they otherwise wouldn't have seen in the age of downloading. 400 million in a couple of years of total profit, with no work on their behalf required.
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Reply #17 posted 07/26/05 2:51am

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mrwigglesdaw1rm said:

clapping I could care less about cd sale's


So you're somewhere in the middle on this, huh?
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Reply #18 posted 07/26/05 3:48am

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asg said:

In 2000 it hit the top at 942mil units sold

in 2005 with more then 6montrths gone its only 293mil if u double it less then 600mil for the whole yr but i think cd sales r more brisk at the end of the yr.Maybe my assumption isnt entirely true

There is like a 57% drop in cd sales since the yr 2000
Don't blame it on illegal downloads
Legal downloads are also contributing
98% of the itunes downloads are singles
ppl just get the songs they want and dont download the whole cd
Biggest album so far is 50cent sellin 4mil cds

[Edited 7/25/05 12:43pm]




The good news is that I don't feel that the drop in CD sales in any way demonstrates that ppl are bored of music or looking elsewhere (such as video games, which has been the case in the past).
It just shows that ppl are buying music in new ways - cell phones and downloads being the main ones which have accelerated massively since 2000.

Also, music DVD's are selling very well - with certain titles (Eagles, Led Zep) selling absolutely shitloads. Again, ppl enjoying music in a new way - they have their 5.1 systems and want the whole experience not just the audio. This maintains the interest in music and bands and the whole history and iconography of the experience, which is good, but doesn't necessarily involve the humble old CD.



I think it is a good time to be a music fan, with more options that ever, cheaper CD's, competition from internet sites and supermarkets bringing the prices down to a reasonable level, and the record companies for once having to stretch themselves and catch up with the consumer with new ideas.









typo edit
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Reply #19 posted 07/26/05 7:40pm

JonSnow

CandaceS said:

JonSnow said:

the "majors" have only themselves to blame. they have run the industry into the ground by spending millions of dollars on product that fades with the changing fads, and ignore bands and artists with true talent that could end up being the next REM, U2, Prince, etc.. if given a chance.

The music industry as we have known it is changing. With digital music becoming more and more prevelant, and so many people walking around w/ ipods, it is going to change. It already is. The industry will need to adapt.


clapping Very well said. It's true that other forms of entertainment are successfully competing for consumer $$$. But the industry will never be healthy unless the execs stop focusing on making a quick buck off the latest manufactured sensation.



exactly. the execs need to focus on what got the industry started in the first place: good music.
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Reply #20 posted 08/03/05 6:57pm

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PurpleKnight said:

mrwigglesdaw1rm said:

clapping I could care less about cd sale's


So you're somewhere in the middle on this, huh?

"Yes"
With all due respect to the true artists for the work they need to get paid. It's the record companies i have beef with. For the bullshit they're marketing now.



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Reply #21 posted 08/03/05 7:20pm

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I haven't bought a current release cd for over 2 years (White stripes - Elephant was the last Brand new CD I bought).

New music really sucks...seriously, if the quality of music was better, i'd buy more cds new...but since all of the music I listen to generally predates 1995...I never buy new cds.I end up buying most of my CDs at used CD stores or I buy used discs online on amazon or half.com. Actually about half of my music purchases (give or take) are vinyl...so that doesn't help the music industry either.

So, I buy tons of music, and none of that contributes to new CD sales.
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