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Thread started 07/15/05 11:54pm

TonyVanDam

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True or False?...For Music, The 2000's Is The Worst Decade Of All-Time!!!

And try to convince me why or why not.
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Reply #1 posted 07/16/05 12:05am

intha916

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False

5 years doesn't make a decade
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Reply #2 posted 07/16/05 12:06am

AsianBomb777

What's in rotation on radio and telivision yes.

However, on Satalite radio and in alternative venues, it's just as creative as it's ever been.

There have been some real gems emerging. So far no real stars of MJ, Madonna, or Prince's caliber--but everything happens in cycles.
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Reply #3 posted 07/16/05 12:09am

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Much too tired to write an essay, but based on music that I enjoy (and how I like to enjoy it)...TRUE. nod

I'd even go so far as to say for certain genres, they're approaching extinction.


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Reply #4 posted 07/16/05 12:23am

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There is a ton of new music out there that sucks, BUT it is amazing how easy it is to get your music heard compared to past decades. I think the decentralization of music distribution that has occured in the last few years is a good thing. Hell, I have friends getting thier self produced music on iTunes. With podcasting, internet radio, website distribution, p2p, the opportunties are endless. Having said that, there has been a definite decline in overall musicianship. Programs like Grarageband allow anyone to cut and paste some electronic crap. In the end, I am not sure that the music is worse these days or if its just that, because there are so many more opportunties for people to get their "music" heard, that we are flooded with more and more crappy content.
a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on
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Reply #5 posted 07/16/05 12:25am

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TRUE

Even these underground artists can't touch a Prince or Pink Floyd in terms of brilliance.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Reply #6 posted 07/16/05 12:26am

GangstaFam

Well, I'm only thorougly versed in music from the 70's onward. I know a lot of music before that, but not enough to give a qualified opinion. I know that I prefer the 70's, 80's and 90's to what's going on now. I haven't made a lot of new favorites this decade.
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Reply #7 posted 07/16/05 12:29am

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Stax said:

Programs like Grarageband allow anyone to cut and paste some electronic crap. In the end, I am not sure that the music is worse these days or if its just that, because there are so many more opportunties for people to get their "music" heard, that we are flooded with more and more crappy content.

Bingo!

The cost of "recording equipment", that the average joe/jane can have in the home, has become so inexpensive that anybody can put out a CD with no buffer whatsoever.

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Reply #8 posted 07/16/05 12:37am

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Im not joining the old men's club just yet I'm only 23. And it's only been 5 years of music so far...not a decade.
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Reply #9 posted 07/16/05 5:07am

VoicesCarry

True.
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Reply #10 posted 07/16/05 10:30am

TonyVanDam

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intha916 said:

False

5 years doesn't make a decade


Mathmatically speaking, you're right. cool But what about musically? wink
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Reply #11 posted 07/16/05 10:31am

TonyVanDam

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theAudience said:

Much too tired to write an essay, but based on music that I enjoy (and how I like to enjoy it)...TRUE. nod

I'd even go so far as to say for certain genres, they're approaching extinction.


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[Edited 7/16/05 0:10am]


I have similar fears from certain genres as well. neutral
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Reply #12 posted 07/16/05 10:34am

TonyVanDam

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Stax said:

There is a ton of new music out there that sucks, BUT it is amazing how easy it is to get your music heard compared to past decades. I think the decentralization of music distribution that has occured in the last few years is a good thing. Hell, I have friends getting thier self produced music on iTunes. With podcasting, internet radio, website distribution, p2p, the opportunties are endless. Having said that, there has been a definite decline in overall musicianship. Programs like Grarageband allow anyone to cut and paste some electronic crap. In the end, I am not sure that the music is worse these days or if its just that, because there are so many more opportunties for people to get their "music" heard, that we are flooded with more and more crappy content.


Agree. neutral
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Reply #13 posted 07/16/05 11:50am

cookieblues

i agree wen people say it has not been a whole decade yet so it's not for us to say...although i must say i don't see much hope for music in the future. i'm only 18 and i don't know much about the decades b4 this, but i do see that most of todays music is just cookie cutter stuff. it's sad cuz i know there's probably some good talented people out there yet all they play on mtv and the radio is all the stuff they want us to hear. i'll admit i have liked some of todays music mostly cuz wen my friend's in the car wit me she's the DJ...but i get tired of that stuff FAST! i mean i like it for like a week. wen i listen to old school stations even oldies its stuff that has been around for years and they're STILL playin it on the radio cuz people still like it. i think todays music is just about having a song played enough for people to like it and go buy the cd and after that the cycle repeats itself and the music gets forgotten about. it doesn't last...i think good music is music that lasts...i think all that music is about now is making money...it always has been, i guess but i think people have forgotten about real talent. now u see more and more artists trying to act in movies, and have they're little perfumes and clothing lines...it's annoying. boxed okay i'll stop now...i guess i'm just mad cuz they're rich and i'm not wink
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Reply #14 posted 07/16/05 12:18pm

Sdldawn

How in the F are people trying to get nostalgic about a decade that hasnt even passed yet?
We are half way in it, and people are stating worst decade of all time? or even considering it?

Thats rubbish, If you looked hard enough, you'd see that the entire concept of "Decade" music is insignificant due to how & whats thrown in your face.. meaning if u look deep enough, you'd fine plenty of amazing music in just about every decade.
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Reply #15 posted 07/16/05 12:37pm

JANFAN4L

False.

This is my generation and I know of the good music within it. Although we have wack artists topping the charts, I've heard some great music 5 years deep into this decade that I love for life.
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Reply #16 posted 07/16/05 1:05pm

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JANFAN4L said:

False.

This is my generation and I know of the good music within it. Although we have wack artists topping the charts, I've heard some great music 5 years deep into this decade that I love for life.

You're one of the group who I believe has their ear to the ground currently.

So let me ask you this.
Has there been any current music created that has done what Louis Armstrong did for instrumental soloists, or Duke Ellington did for big band composition, or Miles Davis did numerous times for interpreting Jazz, or Jimi Hendrix did for rock guitar, or The Beatles did for pop music?

I could go on but I think you know what i'm getting at.
I'm talking innovative improvements here. Sincerely, i'd like to know.

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Reply #17 posted 07/16/05 1:09pm

VoicesCarry

theAudience said:

JANFAN4L said:

False.

This is my generation and I know of the good music within it. Although we have wack artists topping the charts, I've heard some great music 5 years deep into this decade that I love for life.

You're one of the group who I believe has their ear to the ground currently.

So let me ask you this.
Has there been any current music created that has done what Louis Armstrong did for instrumental soloists, or Duke Ellington did for big band composition, or Miles Davis did numerous times for interpreting Jazz, or Jimi Hendrix did for rock guitar, or The Beatles did for pop music?

I could go on but I think you know what i'm getting at.
I'm talking innovative improvements here. Sincerely, i'd like to know.

tA

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clapping Right on.
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Reply #18 posted 07/16/05 1:11pm

GangstaFam

VoicesCarry said:

theAudience said:


You're one of the group who I believe has their ear to the ground currently.

So let me ask you this.
Has there been any current music created that has done what Louis Armstrong did for instrumental soloists, or Duke Ellington did for big band composition, or Miles Davis did numerous times for interpreting Jazz, or Jimi Hendrix did for rock guitar, or The Beatles did for pop music?

I could go on but I think you know what i'm getting at.
I'm talking innovative improvements here. Sincerely, i'd like to know.

tA

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clapping Right on.

I think that you'll find most of what you're looking for within electronic music.
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Reply #19 posted 07/16/05 1:13pm

VoicesCarry

GangstaFam said:

VoicesCarry said:



clapping Right on.

I think that you'll find most of what you're looking for within electronic music.


I've tried. It's...not for me. lol

But go ahead, discuss some of the artists you're into and maybe it will help us out.
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Reply #20 posted 07/16/05 1:17pm

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VoicesCarry said:

GangstaFam said:


I think that you'll find most of what you're looking for within electronic music.


I've tried. It's...not for me. lol

But go ahead, discuss some of the artists you're into and maybe it will help us out.

Yes, please.

Oh, I must add what Motown did to set a standard for R&B. doh!

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Reply #21 posted 07/16/05 1:23pm

VoicesCarry

theAudience said:

VoicesCarry said:



I've tried. It's...not for me. lol

But go ahead, discuss some of the artists you're into and maybe it will help us out.

Yes, please.

Oh, I must add what Motown did to set a standard for R&B. doh!

tA

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From a recent Destiny's Child concert review: "There is not now, nor has there ever been, nor will there ever be, any girl group that can touch DC3 vocally. Ever."

disbelief

Know your history, kids. Please.....
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Reply #22 posted 07/16/05 1:26pm

GangstaFam

VoicesCarry said:

From a recent Destiny's Child concert review: "There is not now, nor has there ever been, nor will there ever be, any girl group that can touch DC3 vocally. Ever."

disbelief

Know your history, kids. Please.....

Not that they had the greatest voices, but I think the Ronettes are the greatest girl group.
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Reply #23 posted 07/16/05 1:30pm

GangstaFam

VoicesCarry said:

I've tried. It's...not for me. lol

But go ahead, discuss some of the artists you're into and maybe it will help us out.

Well, come to think of it, most of my favorites in that field made their mark in the 90's. Artists like Tricky, Bjork and Aphex Twin were making music unlike anything that came before. It'll probably always sound futuristic and timeless at the same time.

So yeah, I guess that doesn't help much. I know there are still a lot of innovations going on in electronica, but not many solid artists to emerge this decade. If anything, it seems that producers are the ones reinventing the pop field, more than any single artist these days.
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Reply #24 posted 07/16/05 1:32pm

VoicesCarry

GangstaFam said:

VoicesCarry said:

From a recent Destiny's Child concert review: "There is not now, nor has there ever been, nor will there ever be, any girl group that can touch DC3 vocally. Ever."

disbelief

Know your history, kids. Please.....

Not that they had the greatest voices, but I think the Ronettes are the greatest girl group.


Hell, even En Vogue puts DC3 to shame, vocally.
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Reply #25 posted 07/16/05 1:35pm

GangstaFam

VoicesCarry said:

Hell, even En Vogue puts DC3 to shame, vocally.

I think that Beyonce and Kelly have nice enough voices. Michelle...eh. But they're not greater than the sum of their parts.
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Reply #26 posted 07/16/05 1:36pm

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VoicesCarry said:


From a recent Destiny's Child concert review: "There is not now, nor has there ever been, nor will there ever be, any girl group that can touch DC3 vocally. Ever."

disbelief

Know your history, kids. Please.....



The Supremes
Martha & The Vandellas
The Ronettes
The Shirelles
The Marvelettes
The Crystals


demon

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Reply #27 posted 07/16/05 1:36pm

VoicesCarry

GangstaFam said:

VoicesCarry said:

Hell, even En Vogue puts DC3 to shame, vocally.

I think that Beyonce and Kelly have nice enough voices. Michelle...eh. But they're not greater than the sum of their parts.


I thought the girls from Xscape knew how to do a really nice harmony.
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Reply #28 posted 07/16/05 1:37pm

cookieblues

lol
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Reply #29 posted 07/16/05 1:37pm

GangstaFam

VoicesCarry said:

I thought the girls from Xscape knew how to do a really nice harmony.

I love SWV! redface
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