VinnyM27 said:

Not to mention Oprah's man Steadman has been the focus of more than a few "gay " rumors (her too, dammit!) remember when she felt compelled to publicly refute some hairdresser's accusation that he had a fling with ole Steadman? Now when you gotta be defending your own shit in front of millions of people, then how you gonna get a whole bunch of women worked up about what their men are doing when they ain't around?

Terry McMillan's husband recently turned out to be gay. Other than that, its fucked up that "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" was based on their relationship (she's 52 and he's 30). If she makes a sequel to that shit, I think its gonna be all over for us guys. LOL! Cause you know movies that can influence women.
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OnionJuice said:

Exactly.

BlaqueKnight said:

[b]BK Baby usually we agree on many things but this time you damn wrong. There have been cases in cities such as ATL, DC & NYC where professional Black have contracted AIDS as a resulted of their cheating greedy as DL muthafucking husbands. So what the media is saying is far from a rumour and this shit is real and there is no sense in bullshiting around and trying to sugar glaze the issue to either cover your ass to seem PC or somebody elses b/c its our community /the Black Community that its effecting. I will be damn if I will sit here and alllow this myth to take place.
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VinnyM27 said:

Floetry is far from being hags shit. Their lovers.

SassyBritches said:

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Sleep well. Just stop commenting on certain aspects of African-American culture. (LOL)

Hotlegs said:[quote]

BlaqueKnight said:

ATL, DC and NYC have the highest concentration of substance abusers as well--shit stand on any damn corner and you see how open the drug market is--and yet we wanna keep pushing off this epidemic on the "down low"? puh-leaze!. the fact that a lot of men think with their dicks and not their head is the reason shit is spreading--realistically, a brutha will have sex with a crackhead female doing tricks on the corner for $20 than he will seek out a gay/bi man to have sex with. does he ask her for an HIV test? hell naw, he just want to get his rocks off and then go home to his lady! women are passing the virus off to men just as much as men are passing it off to women--stop making one the villain and the victim. This is no George Romero zombie movie where the living dead is just walking around looking to infect people! the whole topic of this thread is based on the word of this Superhead chick--who writes a book about all these people she's bedded, and yet she's the victim. women have hoe-ish tendencies just like men do--how they trace all the woes to a bisexual brutha is boggling.

OnionJuice said:

The guys who do this are low, your right but keep in mind....The whole DL thing is nothing but a conspiricy to weaken the strong masculine image of black males! Sure there are black guys who are on the dl, but its not like all or even most black guys are into this.

Im sure there are guys in every race who stay in the closed for whatever reasons,white, latino's, indian, etc...so why the isolated tern for black males?
They are no more on the dl than any other race.

America has stripped alot of black men of there education and oportunities to rise in society with the influx of heroin and crack in the inner cities. With all that gone, black women and white alike still love the black male. So whity still has more work to do, so now he is attaching the black mans image.

:redneck voice: Did someone say bisexuals?? Goodgoogamoogah! clem! CLEM! Go get the rope and shotgun!
Now what u gonna on about now Harry?
Haven't you heard clem?? DL men are the new niggers, homo's and chinks!

Listen to yourselves! Thats exactly how some of you sound!
Can you really blame men that are on the dl? I don't agree with it 100% but hell, how can you blame them? Look how gay people get treated! Some people treat gay people (especially gay men) like they're the scum of the earth, if you're out and proud more power to you, but don't you dare be angry at someone who feels they have to put on a front to survive, you of ALL people should understand why they feel the way they feel.

And don't even start with that dl men are part the reason for the rise of hiv/aids in the blk community. BULLSHIT! UNPROTECTED SEX IS THE REASON FOR THE RISE!!! You could be DL, Gay, Str8, Bi, WHATEVER! But if yo ass aint wearing protection then yea u gonna contract something and you're DEFINATELY gonna spread it. Being DL has nothing to do with it.
Being UNPROTECTED has EVERYTHING to do with it.

Its a shame that thats the way some of you think. As if its all the DL mans fault that this is happeneing, so no fault falls on the women right? Yea there fucking saints! If these women REALLY cared about they;re health make sure their man WRAPPED IT THE FUCK UP! And if their man don't wanna do that, then those women shouldn't open their legs to them.

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Hotlegs said:

You can sit here and shift the blame on the women all you like. But, at the end of the day, irresponsible brothers (just like a Majic Johnson )are just as repsonsibe for the spread of this disease so stop trying to bullshit around.

immyidol said:

This is some interesting shit here.The behavior of some of my brothers never fails me. Whenever there is a problem in our a race, I seen some of the brothas on this thread do the following: blame it all on the Black Woman, or say its a conspiracy and blame it all on the poweres that be without getting to the solution of the problem.
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Hotlegs said:

C'mon do you really believe this DL crap? Sure there are some bro's who do it, but do you believe that black guys do it more than any other race?
Why the focus on black men? Why doesn't the media just say men of all races are on the DL?

immyidol said:

The fact of the matter now is that DL behavior is in Black Community and in the Open so how the hell do we address it. Do we sweep it under the rug? Do we point fingers and blame on the powers that be?

Or do we as a race of people get together and address the problem? This is the question that we as race of people should be asking ourselves and that is my .

MsLegs said:

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Co-Sign- It is easier to pretend that this issue does not exsist. It is really hard for black people to just deal with reality without flipping out blaming the "man "or black woman.

Brothers should be speaking with other brothers about their behavior and hipping the sisters to what is going on. No one deserves to get Aids because they did not know their husband or boyfriend was gay or bisexual.

laurarichardson said:

From MeltwithU:
bravo for being "naturally open" with your lifestyle, but when you get a record contract or your first photo shoot, don't expect you and your significant other to be posing together on the cover of any magazine other than "Advocate" or "Out"--unfortunately, mainstream America and the Black community don't work that way. if it did, there wouldn't be so many people running around on the DL, right?

MELT WITH U -I never said I wanted to pose on the cover of a magazine with my partner...so lets get that one str8.

And hell fuk yea...I'd do a cover story on Advocate or OUT!

I'm not interested in what mainstream america wants from me...nor am I'm interested in the black community and what they have to say.

Being DOMINICAN...I know how Latins and Black operate when it come to GAYS!

I'm my own man...and if I were asked, I would say "YES I AM GAY"...plain and simple...I know both t.v. & radio personalities who are out!
Meaning...you ask them and they will tell you.

So far it hasn't been a big deal!
Same goes if I were a superstar...I would never be in a situation like george micheal or tevin campbell...

No public bathrooms and parks for me!
No big scandals...either...I'd come out with it and if ppl didn't like me -so fuckin what!

Celebrities don't say nothing because their scared...anybody can say their gay!
I'm just saying...it shouldn't be a big deal whose sleeping with who!

Just do your thang and protect yourselves!
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Hotlegs said:

Helloooo Please actually listen this time! I never said it was not an issue.
I never said it should not be addressed. My point is this. Listen now.....
It is not a black man issue! It is a human issue. Something all races should be concerned about. Men on the DL is not isolated to the black race, nor has it been proven that back males are on the DL more than any other race.

The AIDS scare has everyone blaming gays and now black males. The solution is something between, abstainance, faithfulness, monogomy and protected sex.
Just blamming gays, men on the DL or whatever is a cop out! It just fuels hatred and racism.

If you look at the current statistics for aids we are all in this together.
Black women have the highest rate, maybe I should start promoting black women on the DL. Hw do we know that black females on the DL aren't causing this?.......Please don't.. Im just
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immyidol said:

Your attitude is typical and you really need to cancel the bullshit and face the facts that you Black Men need to step up to plate and stand by your women instead against them( work together as a community). The fact remains that DL behavior is in the open now so how do you deal with the problem is what needs to be the focus. Because, if you continue to act like a s ass and point fingers like a little child without trying to work together with the Black Women and the Community to figure out a solution your only playing into the powers that be hands by divide and conquere. Some of you Black Men are Damn foolish if you can't see it and need to be slapped for your ignorance.
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immyidol said:

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"Why the focus on black men? Why doesn't the media just say men of all races are on the DL?"

Who the fuck cares what the media is saying. The truth is out and we need to come together and deal with it. I am sure the DL goes on in the white community.
However, maybe the white DL brothers are wearing condoms because white women do not have the high rate of AIDS that African-American have. Yes, some of it could be from drugs but considering sisters are ususally the ones working and providing for their familes that would seem unlikely.

Let's work together to solve our problems and stop wondering when the media or the govt is going to stop placing the DL on the black community.

Realize we are always going to marginilized by the govt and the media. Let's move on and work to solve our issues.

Hotlegs said:

Legs, you sound bitter about something. I hope you had this same outcry back in the early 80's when it was predominantly white gay males who had AIDS, or the late 80's and early 90's when it was black gay men who were dying left and right. It's tragic that ALL MINORITY WOMEN, not just Black women, are now getting hit hard by this disease. the fact of the matter is, a lot less gay men have unprotected because they've seen they're friends and loved ones suffer and die a horrible death. don't assume that every brutha out there is just waiting to jump in the sack with another man, because the majority don't--just like the majority of black men AREN'T in jail (even though the media would like you to believe so) and the majority of Blacks AREN'T on welfare (even though the media acts like we are). putting all the blame on one segment of the society isn't going to do anything to help solve the problem. fucking without condoms is the crime here, not being bisexual.

meltwithu said:

You know its really funny. Whenever a Black Women is articulate ,aggressive,sensualand opininated and takes no shit from her man all a sudden she is percieved as bitter. Some of you Black man are threaten by women that don't take your shit and I really find fuckas like your ass to be comical but I still got love for ya. However, I know that their are still some real true Black Men who aren't threaten by a non passive women.

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Hotlegs said:[quote]meltwithu said:[quote]
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You know its really funny. Whenever a Black Women is articulate ,aggressive,sensualand opininated and takes no shit from her man all a sudden she is percieved as bitter. Some of you Black man are threaten by women that don't take your shit and I really find fuckas like your ass to be comical but I still got love for ya.

However, I know that their are still some real true Black Men who aren't threaten by a non passive women.

yeah, and apparently they're all out fucking other men, according to you
besides only a man who was weak to begin with would even be threatened by a strong woman. and judging from the tone of your posts, you probably don't even have a man, cuz you so busy trying to be strong black woman thatyou forgot how to be a lady

nuthin personal, though

meltwithu said:[quote]Hotlegs said:[quote]

meltwithu said:

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Keep attacking black woman that will really help solve our problems. It it is called divide and conquer. Don't fall for it I am sure you have a mother, sister, aunt or neice.

meltwithu said:[quote]Hotlegs said:[quote]

meltwithu said:

Judging from the tone of your posts, your full of bullshit and bitter towards Black Women. You don't know nothing about me andyet you chose to prejudge me , disrect me like a insecure weak triflin bitch made muthafucka would do. Only a pitiful fuck would do that and here I thought your ass was different but I see you still have growing up to do. Now after you grow a set of balls and stop ing off like little boys do perhaps then, we can have a civil adult conversation.
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laurarichardson said:[quote]meltwithu said:[quote]

Hotlegs said:

Exactly. But, some are too igroant to understand the error of their ways.

meltwithu said:[quote]Hotlegs said:[quote]

meltwithu said:

Judging from the tone of your posts, your full of bullshit and bitter towards Black Women. You don't know nothing about me andyet you chose to prejudge me , disrect me like a insecure weak triflin bitch made muthafucka would do. Only a pitiful fuck would do that and here I thought your ass was different but I see you still have growing up to do. Now after you grow a set of balls and stop ing off like little boys do perhaps then, we can have a civil adult conversation.

Hotlegs said:[quote]meltwithu said:[quote]

Hotlegs said:

wow...look at that language. what you getting all upset about? it's just the internet, sweetie. obviously you feel passionate about the topic, so i'll just let you simmer down for awhile
BTW... I love black women. i come from thec womb of a black woman. and i come from the seed of a black man. so you can can that nonsense right there

meltwithu said:

Well, if you love Black Women then, you need not to be so disrespectful towards me. So, you need to check your nonsense right there brotha. Respect has to be earned before its given.

Hotlegs said:

typical woman, always gotta get the last word in
(patiently awaiting your rebuttal...)

meltwithu said:

Typical Man, always have something say but ain't saying shit but I love them.