Naw, Ma Barker was saying Kerrine only to have ONE child which is the one she had by Kool G. But Kerrine told Ma personally that she had a daughter by Method Man. They were tryna prove that Kerrine was a big liar.

OnionJuice said:

Oh, I see. Well, if Karrine said that to Ma Barker, isn't it possible that the Tigger thing is a lie, too? With so many lies floating around, who knows who's telling the truth? All I know for sure is that Karrine Steffans is a self-admitted "ho" who claims to be reformed now and has written a book on her alleged escapades to makes some $$$ and possibly get back at some people.

meltwithu said:

sure sounds like it to me.....cheating is cheating, no matter who you fucking on the side. you single out bisexual men in your statement as the main reason hiv/aids is on the rise, but ignore the fact that if the majority of black men are straight, then how can the one's that's getting down on the low be responsible for making black women one of the fastest growing segments of the population with hiv infection? there are a lot more iv drug abusers out there than dl bruthas. the bigger question should be why is anybody doing the horizontal mambo raw?

meltwithu said:

Yeah, it sounded like it to you, but it wasnt.

I NEVER said bisexual guys were the reason AID/HIV was on rise - I just said their one of the reasons alot (not even most of them) of women have the diease. Ever since that black guy (I cant recall his name at the moment) publicly came forward about brothas being the downlow (not sayin it was a newflash to me), its been a issue all over the black community as of late. And we were talkin about Tigga here so...thus my earlier post.

Good to see that you're educated, but just how much more are you gonna take what I said out of context?

OnionJuice said:

you're right. i'm wrong. with a "public nickname" like "big tigger" i should have assumed he has a PHd from harvard. i should have guessed when Xavier24 said, "u guys think this could happen to another rapper...," (emphasis added by me) that he actually meant tv personality and NOT "rapper."

if your "public nickname" is something with "big" or "lil" in it, i'm gonna think you're trying to be some kind of thug. if peeps don't want to be thought of that way, peeps should try better "public nicknames."

and i still say that anyone using the "public nickname" Big Tigger is obviously as gay as the day is long.

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you're right. i'm wrong. with a "public nickname" like "big tigger" i should have assumed he has a PHd from harvard. i should have guessed when Xavier24 said, "u guys think this could happen to another rapper...," (emphasis added by me) that he actually meant tv personality and NOT "rapper."

if your "public nickname" is something with "big" or "lil" in it, i'm gonna think you're trying to be some kind of thug. if peeps don't want to be thought of that way, peeps should try better "public nicknames."

and i still say that anyone using the "public nickname" Big Tigger is obviously as gay as the day is long.



Your broad generalizations are GLARING....
BIG Daddy Kane...not a gangsta or "thug"
LIL' Bow Wow...far from a gangsta or thug
LIL MO'...Not a gangsta or thug (nice ass)
BIG Tigger....a chi-chi guy...who happens to not be a gangsta or thug
LIL Kim (ok...a stupid strumpet)

OnionJuice said:

you're right. i'm wrong. with a "public nickname" like "big tigger" i should have assumed he has a PHd from harvard. i should have guessed when Xavier24 said, "u guys think this could happen to another rapper...," (emphasis added by me) that he actually meant tv personality and NOT "rapper."

if your "public nickname" is something with "big" or "lil" in it, i'm gonna think you're trying to be some kind of thug. if peeps don't want to be thought of that way, peeps should try better "public nicknames."

and i still say that anyone using the "public nickname" Big Tigger is obviously as gay as the day is long.

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SassyBitch said:

I can tell you're the type to buy into stereotypes and media-imagery and other things of that nature.

Those kinda of people are the one's who usually follow me around the store and watch me real close.
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SassyBitch said:

I can tell you're the type to buy into stereotypes and media-imagery and other things of that nature.

Those kinda of people are the one's who usually follow me around the store and watch me real close.
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HURRY UP N BUY!!!!!

BlaqueKnight said:

Its the whole DownLow brother thing. You know, these cats who have a woman in public, but go off and have secret sexual affairs with another man on DL...and alot of times, its unprotected sex, too, meaning that they could contract HIV and then go back to their "regular life" and have sex with their girlfriend, giving the diease to her. ALOT of women have caught HIV/AIDS cause of their men being on the DL like that; this has ruined alot of families too. I dont like them DL cats; in fact, I respect homosexual men way more than I respect bisexual guys - I just dont like muthafuckas playin on both sides of the fence (not the females, but the men). That kinds shit there leaves an bad impression on all men in general (even you and I) - that could make females think that all men are on DL. Reality of it is that being on the DL has pretty much made its way into urban culture. You never whose doing it, its always who you least expect, so Im never really surprise who gets exposed.

But however, I still like Big Tigga, but I dont know what to think him outted like that. Everybody as a right to their privacy, but then there's the DL issue.

you mean to tell me that they ain't trying to look thuggish? pfft, whateva, treva. i didn't say they were necessarily pulling it off but, yes, they are trying to be thugs. why the hell else would big daddy kane have brass knuckles on? gimme a break. the whole "thug" look as successful at what it tries to convey.

BlaqueKnight said:

Its the whole DownLow brother thing. You know, these cats who have a woman in public, but go off and have secret sexual affairs with another man on DL...and alot of times, its unprotected sex, too, meaning that they could contract HIV and then go back to their "regular life" and have sex with their girlfriend, giving the diease to her. ALOT of women have caught HIV/AIDS cause of their men being on the DL like that; this has ruined alot of families too. I dont like them DL cats; in fact, I respect homosexual men way more than I respect bisexual guys - I just dont like muthafuckas playin on both sides of the fence (not the females, but the men). That kinds shit there leaves an bad impression on all men in general (even you and I) - that could make females think that all men are on DL. Reality of it is that being on the DL has pretty much made its way into urban culture. You never whose doing it, its always who you least expect, so Im never really surprise who gets exposed.


well based on your argument, a female who cheats on her husband with another female is A-OK? Saying that HIV-AIDS is being spread by men on the DL is ignoring the fact that many of the guys who do cheat go to PROSTITUTES and DRUG ABUSING FEMALES as well--just because a guy jumps the fence doesn't mean he's gonna contract an STD--it just means that some guys who dwell outside of their relationships don't think enough of their spouses/partners to protect themselves which is the real crime.

Great point.
Bi chicks are just as bad as bi dudes in my book. I'm not fascinated with all the "girl-on-girl action" that gets promoted on t.v. these days. If I'm not in on it, i don't give a damn about it. It does nothing for me.

BlaqueKnight said:

And what, exactly, is wrong with us?

You've got your chance -so explain it to me -guy to bi woman -what's so repulsive about bisexual people? Be honest, now. I'd like to hear what some straight and gay people think is so vile about bisexuals.

SassyBritches said:

Yeah, those "lils" are the ones to watch for...
Maybe I was right the first time.

And lets not leave out the hardcore thug himself:

meow85 said:

DL's are not really bi-sexual, their gay men who pose with women.

It saddens me that the stereotype of all bisexuals is that they'll fuck anything that walks and that they can't be in a committed relationship.

lilgish said:

Some are gay who pose with women, and some are bisexual. Either way, they can't admit what they truly are. Because, as everyone knows, a "real man" (there's my favourite bullshit phrase again!) only digs women.

lilgish said:

Some are gay who pose with women, and some are bisexual. Either way, they can't admit what they truly are. Because, as everyone knows, a "real man" (there's my favourite bullshit phrase again!) only digs women.

meow85 said:

accurate, Tig might be bi, but Tigga played that macho crap up til the hilt, he was getting on MJ big time, now people are believing unconfirmed shit about him, let'e see how he reacts.

Wendy Williams is outing everybody, The shit has just started

I wanna see fifty get outted, that's just me.....this might send hip-hop underground.

meow85 said:

Well Said Meow!

um, no. i'd assume with those names back in the 50's that they were some kind of mobster.

its just the image that i associate with the big or lil nickname. just like when i think of the name eugene i think of a science or math nerd.

yes, i'm guilty of prejudiced thoughts. we are all. the thing is that you assume my prejudices are racially based rather than simply word association. you've probably also assumed that because i'm a white guy. if you haven't seen my profile pic then you also came to that conclusion based on prejudicial assumptions of your own.

i'd like to point out that while eminem is not black, i still consider him to be perpetrating a thug image. is he successful at it? maybe, maybe not. the "public nickname," however, suggests he is trying for some kind of street cred image. i suppose somehow that is a racial issue also, though, right?

i don't know who Big Tigga is and, with a name like that, i really couldn't give two cents to find out. i certainly don't care who this guy is poking. just for the record, though, anyone who names himself after a Disney character AND tries to be gangsta is a joke in my eyes.

I personally would never date a bi-sexual.
DL guys should learn and just be themselves...which would make living more easier for us all!
Because its definitely unfair to sleep with TOM, DICK, HARRY AND GO BACK TO SALLY! or vice versa!

Any kind of relationship should be 1 on 1 and monogamous.
Its fun that way!
No worries...but on the real I don't know what to think of Tigga!
What I really hate is a guy whose posing to be hardcore and against gay men...and they turn out to be gay also.