Sdldawn said:

exactly!!

I was never a huge fan of Tupac,but there is no denying his talent.He was a great writer."Hail Mary" is one of the few rap songs from the 90s that I like.

He was under rated when he was alive, over rated when he died. a true artist!
love Pac, always have but I think he's post death image and hype is not real.

Tupac wasn't the greatest rapper ever(IMO, it's Chuck D), but he's in my top 10.

look 2pac was the best rapper not because of his flow or style but because of what he said and rapped about
he was a prolific writer the things that stand out about him is he wasnt just a rapper he was a communicater spoke his mind regardless had passion had soul had heart and moved people hes up there and above malcolm x and martin luther king

riverdean7 said:

oooo hold on man..i was feeling u til u said he's ABOVE mlk and malcolm. i love pac too, but pac was not above these two men, no where near it

Moonwalkbjrain said:

2 times Riverdean is the perfect example of folks "overrating" him

Xavier24 said:

I wonder what song or album of tupac did you hear that brought you to this conclusion.

Allot of the Double Ups helped him, so it sounded like the never took a breath. But he was pretty damn good!!

2Pac was and to this day still is the greatest rapper/lyricst and if all he did was, as someone put it, talk over a beat. So what, the Beatles aint nothing but the Back Street Boys, 98 Degree, New Kids on The Block, etc. plugedin.
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CalhounSq said:

2pac was and still is overrated!!

riverdean7 said:

vainandy said:

I know! Co-

Robert Christgau would agree. He really makes a case with this review:

"Me Against the World [Interscope, 1995]
Tough-guy sentimentality is an old story in American culture, but self-pity this rank is usually reserved for teen romances and tales of brave avant-gardists callously rejected by the mass media. His I-love-Mom rings true because Mom was no saint, and his respect for old G's seems genuine, probably because they told him how smart he was. But whether the metaphor be dead homies or suicide threat, the subtext of his persecution complex is his self-regard. What's doubly galling is that these are essential hip hop themes--as Ice Cube and B.I.G. have made all too vivid, it is persecution that induces young black men to kill each other and themselves. That such themes should rise to the top of the charts with this witless exponent of famous-for-being-famous is why pop fans decry the mass media. C+"

jbell said:

What is that?

And yes, A Day in the Life is exactly like The Right Stuff.

I generally don't like rap either, but Tupac was the exception to me, because his lyrics and subjects were above the "money, cars, hoes," crap you get today... What I couldn't understand is what people saw in Biggie.... Slurred delivery with juvenile lyrics.... Even his name was stolen!

RipHer2Shreds said:

Hush up, u kmow what he means. Bealtes early stuff can definately be put against the new kids.

thesexofit said:

Yes, their early stuff was more pop-oriented, and yes, some of it was bubble gum. But even then it was better than anything the New Kids did. And she/he didn't say their early stuff - he said "the Beatles aint nothing but..." Now you hush up.

riverdean7 said:

As crazy as the last part sounds, I will go along with it. Because he's the closest that this generation of black Americans has to a Malcolm X or MLK. It's sad but true.
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