....about plastic surgery. Cause if he had as many as ppl have said, how could have he possibly look the same from the same angles and with the same facial expressions?
Sorry to start another Mj thread but I had to show you those pictures and sorry for the quality.


one would think he already had plastic surgery during Thriller era




you gotta look at his facial features separately to see that they´re the same except the nose in the first two portraits
and the other two pictures I am sure you know. First one History tour 1996, second is from the Invincible booklet 2001




the pictures on the left site are the top one 2001 (w britney)
the bottom one is from Moonwalker from about 1987
the right ones are one from Exeter about 2002 and the lower one 1996

and here´s picture to compare with the last one.

some more
about 1985
[img][/img] about 2002

then he only fucked himself up with a few surgeries instead of many.

How efficient.
[Edited 6/29/05 11:06am]

(damn I shouldn´t laugh)

SHAMON!!!

Daq

I would agree that his AGE has changed his appearance majorly as much as the 2 nose Jobs.

Off the subject since you study quite allot of his pictures, Which Era would you say Micheal was most attractive?

Come on.

He didn't change his eyes...but nose, lips and skin It's not that hard to see.

Idiot!

his surgery looks exagerated due to his age, no doubt, but he's still had more than two nose jobs!

he never said two nose jobs he said two surgeries, i.e. in two different places, he had a cleft added to his chin in the 80s, ok not that major, and he's had his nose done (albeit more than once). So in fact, he didnt lie, it was taken the wrong way in that interview along with a whole lot of other stuff.

I agree that obviously he looks completely different at 47 than he did when he was 24 , just the same as every other human being, u cant expect him to look young and beautiful forever.

But the worlds obsession with mj's face needs to end now, there are plenty other ugly folk walking the streets that we could rip the hell out of, and mj is certainly not that bad, so in the words of prince "lets chill"

FunkyBrotha said:

no, actually michael did say two nose jobs, specifically. he referred to an accident that broke his nose and then a 2nd surgery to fix it again. i heard this with my own ears and the words came out of mike's mouth so i know its not rumour.

and i don't know about your family but other than added wrinkles and lines and some graying of the hair, my mother looks just like the same person she was 20 years ago. the same can most certainly NOT be said of mj. yes, people age but people DON'T change features so dramatically as mj. any kid who is 7 or 8 years old would NOT recognize a photo of mike from off the wall or thriller. that is sad.

Why does Madonna and Prince look ok, yet Mike does not?

I do have a theory...that the burn incident really really damaged Mikes face more than what was said. That would explain to many surgeries he has had. And there have been more than 2...no matter what y'all say.

I think folks would be a lot more appethetic to him if that was the case and he just came clean with it.

superspaceboy said:

The Pepsi burn incident affected his scalp area, which is why I try not to hack on his ridiculous wigs.

But shamon, that's not why he looks like Fireman Bill.

CinisterCee said:

Firemashall bill! Ha, I never saw that.

Here's the question...

DO ANY OF US REALLY KNOW? OR WILL EVER KNOW?

well they probably wouldnt recognise him because they havent been properly informed of his vitiligo, the fact that he broke his nose falling down stairs in the late 70s and the fact that his head went on fire in 87. And over a period of twenty five years my mum looks completely different, im 22 and i dont look the same as i did when i was 12, u face changes, not just ur skin but ur actual facial structure changes, u lose flab, things become tighter!

Im not defendin mj's surgery, but it is grossly exaggerated with all these reports that his nose melts off every so often and he has no hair, we all seen him the day he wore his pjs to court with no makeup and his hair a mess. He didnt look that bad.

All I have to say is that this was a very special episode. "I got your nose"

theVelvetRoper said:

rofl

I LOVE NAPOLEON

"you guys are RETARTED!!!"

Okay, I hate to do this, but..

http://anomalies-unlimite...ckson.html

... it's not THE most accurate nor complete page as far as the timeline, information, etc. goes but any idiot can see from all those pictures that he is a plastic surgery addict. Plain and simple. I'm sure he's had his face re-constructed and cleaned up and whatnot countless of times to make him look somewhat like his original self but he is clearly lying when he says he's only had two rhinoplasties and nothing else. Hell, Lisa Marie said in their '95 Primetime interview with Diane Sawyer that he constantly re-modeled and re-sculpted his face.

squiddyren said:

THANKYOU! Gawww, I thought I was the only one who remembered that.

i agree daq, i cant believe some of these people can look at those pictures then go on to say hes addicted to surgery. they obviously didnt look at the pictures. i have 4 pictures too, on my computer that shows him looking in the same direction showing he hasnt had much surgery, but i dont know how to post it on here. i'll try and find the photos seperately and then post them. but even though i think michael hasnt had many surgeries at all, i still think hes had a little bit more than what he said on the lwmj interview. i think he's had 3 nose jobs and a cleft put in his chin and thats all.

the biggest thing that makes michael look so differnt is his skin colour and his hair, i bet ANY BUCKS that if michael put on a really dark tan and let his hair grow curly, he would look the same as in the bad era.

and to answer someones question (even though they were talking to daq) i think he looked his best in this order: thriller era, bad era, jacksons era, history era (with the mushroom haircut), off the wall era, dangerous era then invincible era (even though i think he looks really good now, in 2001 he looked REALLY bad, so it kinda brings the whole era down)

It's not the fucking nose jobs that make him look freaky it's the face-lifts. He has that lizard smile these days, and you know that's not just lipstick.

I´d love to know what tha problem was as well, but I don´t think he had his lips done. they seem to be slimmer, but that´s cause of vitiligo

What Is Vitiligo?

Vitiligo (vit-ill-EYE-go) is a pigmentation disorder in which melanocytes (the cells that make pigment) in the skin, the mucous membranes (tissues that line the inside of the mouth and nose and genital and rectal areas), and the retina (inner layer of the eyeball) are destroyed. As a result, white patches of skin appear on different parts of the body. The hair that grows in areas affected by vitiligo usually turns white

http://www.niams.nih.gov/...tiligo.htm



yeah, she did say that, but that doesn´t mean he had 20 surgeries. That could have included everything from the hair changes to make-up to plastic surgery.


It´s hard to tell. To me he looks great even today at times. He has his good and bad moments as everyone apparantly, so I can´t say which era was his best. Yeah, Bad was great! My least favourite looks of his would be the Thriller days.

squiddyren said:

yes i agree. and you shouldn't even have to view that site to know it. anyone whose seen pics from differents eras of mikes career can tell he's had more than 2 surgeries. now i don't think he's had 60 and 70 and all those big numbers of surgeries, but wayyyy more than two. cuz you don't go from looking like thriller mike (nose), to bad mike (nose & cleft), to dangerous mike (nose), to history mike (nose, and maybe jaw), to now mike (nose, maybe eyes?) also add in a face lift or two and age

if you look at those pictures up to 1985, he´s the same. Plus I really don´t understand how you can fool yourself like that. You CANNOT compare these pictures. Just look at all those different shots, facial expressions, make-up styles. With that you can post even pictures of ppl who had NO surgery and they will also look completely different.
Besides, just check the "different" looks in Bashir interview. Are you telling me he had plastic surgery before each shot?


Anyways for the cat. Here are some my favourite shots.





etc.etc.etc.

Okay..I've gotta reply.....



THIS...

is Michael Jackson

THIS...

is also Michael Jackson (before shit got really weird)

BUT THIS...

is the Michael Jackson that is close to my heart


THIS...

is Connie Chung!!
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Umm, there are actually people out there who think the huge changes in Jacko's appearance are solely due to aging (oh, and just two little nose jobs)??