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PrintableOnionJuice said: There is no mob/government conspiracy in their murders.
As much as I love Pac, he got himself involved in some real gangsta shit (and he wasnt even a gangsta to begin with) while trying to show his loyalty to Suge. That night in Vegas after the Tyson fight, Pac beat up a Southside Crip named Orlando Anderson, who weeks before that robbed some DeathRow affiliates who were Bloods. After Pac died, a war between Bloods and Crips popped off in LA. Orlando was murdered in 1998 from some unrelated shit though. And Biggie's murder was, of course, revenege. And as much as I love Biggie, he was talkin greasy on the radio when he was out there on West. Yeah Biggie showed sympathy for Pac but at the sametime he freestyled some the lines from "Long Kiss Goodnight" (which many people believe is a diss record towards Pac recorded after he died) and when asked if he was involved in Pac's death, Biggie responded by sayin he wasn't "that powerful yet." Thats the wrong shit to say in the wrong place at the wrong time (six months after Pac died on Pac's resident coast, knowing people are still heated and mourning). Corrupt LAPD officers (who worked did security for DeathRow when off-duty) were involved in Biggie's killing. One of them is David Mack, who took a three day vacation from work right up to Biggie's murder. And one of the witness claim to have seen him at that industry party Biggie was at that night. The Nation of Islam was doing security at the party and somebody (Ahmir) wearing a suit and bow tied was the shooter (witness claim to have seen him at the party, too). But of course, Mack denies knowing Ahmir and Ahmir naturally denies being the shooter. It really all just falls into place, but nobody's being charged. Onion Juice appears courtesy of Streethop.com | |
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Hotlegs said: Suge is far from the problem. People should come to the realization that is more that conincidence that 2 rappers are killled and their can't be found. This sounds more like a conspiracy against rap if anything else, The civil lawsuit is frivolous b/c the conspiracy stims deeper than the police department and thats all I have to say for now. 
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Hotlegs said: TonyVanDam said: Hello, David Kenner has a HUGE hand in this too. And he also has very close ties with crime families. As for Harry-O, interesting! But again, who grows the drugs that black crime loads like Harry-O sells? You know damn good and well that it's not the hood or the projects!  Tell'em Tony. | |
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TonyVanDam said: OnionJuice said: LOL! DeathRow wasnt funded by mafia money. When they first started, they were funded by Harry-O, a (black) big-time Los Angeles druglord. Harry-O used his drug money to started a legit record company called GF (GodFather) Records, which DeathRow was *secretly* under. As DeathRow grew sucessful with the millions of records sold from Dre's Chronic album and Snoop's Doggystyle & Murder Was the Case project, Harry-O got locked up and Suge screwed him over, cut him lose and cheated him out of his money...which is why Harri-O's wife (Lydia Harris, whose now over GF Records) is suing DeathRow for MILLIONS as we speak. DeathRow became an empire selling MILLONS of records and Suge was over 100 million dollars rich - who would need to be funded by a mafia being that rich? At the most, DeathRow had gangstas (mostly Bloods) on their payroll. Do your research, people. Hello, David Kenner has a HUGE hand in this too. And he also has very close ties with crime families. As for Harry-O, interesting! But again, who grows the drugs that black crime loads like Harry-O sells? You know damn good and well that it's not the hood or the projects! | |
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MsLegs said: Hotlegs said: Suge is far from the problem. People should come to the realization that is more that conincidence that 2 rappers are killled and their can't be found. This sounds more like a conspiracy against rap if anything else, The civil lawsuit is frivolous b/c the conspiracy stims deeper than the police department and thats all I have to say for now.
[Edited 6/22/05 12:54pm]  "Don't Believe The Hype."
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Hotlegs said: TonyVanDam said: Hello, David Kenner has a HUGE hand in this too. And he also has very close ties with crime families. As for Harry-O, interesting! But again, who grows the drugs that black crime loads like Harry-O sells? You know damn good and well that it's not the hood or the projects! Tell'em Tony. | |
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Hotlegs said: TonyVanDam said: OnionJuice said: Hello, David Kenner has a HUGE hand in this too. And he also has very close ties with crime families. As for Harry-O, interesting! But again, who grows the drugs that black crime loads like Harry-O sells? You know damn good and well that it's not the hood or the projects! Tell'em Tony.Allhiphop.com & Streethop & S.O.H.H. >>>>> prince.org . . . . . . [Edited 6/24/05 20:38pm] Onion Juice appears courtesy of Streethop.com | |
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jacknapier said: I wouldnt be surprised if Big Suge had biggie killed, but he DEFINATLY DID NOT have tupac killed.I saw the doc as well and the tupac part is pure fiction. He was in the same car as Pac' when pac was murdered, and pac was his best friend.
If anything he killed Biggie in retaliation for the tupac murder. Onion Juice appears courtesy of Streethop.com | |
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Shapeshifter said: jacknapier said: I wouldnt be surprised if Big Suge had biggie killed, but he DEFINATLY DID NOT have tupac killed.I saw the doc as well and the tupac part is pure fiction. He was in the same car as Pac' when pac was murdered, and pac was his best friend.
If anything he killed Biggie in retaliation for the tupac murder. I think he had them both killed. Tupac was all set to leave Death Row and he was pissed off that he'd been ripped off by the label and was going to have it audited. Suge then had Biggie killed too to make it look like a retaliatory killing to take the heat off him. It kind of worked too - he's never been charged for the killing. Check out Nick Broomfield's Biggie & Tupac and read Randall Sullivan's superb "Labyrinth" about the LAPD, the Rampart Scandal and the rapper killings. The case of both is very persuasive. Onion Juice appears courtesy of Streethop.com | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: lilgish said:  I think he had Tupac killed. i'm glad that they might be gettin to the bottom of bigs murder..but they also need 2 put some focus back on pacs murderOnion Juice appears courtesy of Streethop.com | |
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meltwithu said: Attorney: B.I.G. suit witnesses fear payback
By Ryan Pearson Associated Press Writer Originally published June 21, 2005 LOS ANGELES -- An attorney representing the family of slain rap superstar Notorious B.I.G. says he is confident he will prevail in the courtroom despite witnesses who are reluctant to testify for fear of retaliation and other challenges. Attorney Perry Sanders Jr. said Monday the family's lawsuit against the city is "a difficult circumstantial case." Jury selection in the federal case is set to begin Tuesday. The lawsuit accuses the Los Angeles Police Department of covering up a former officer's alleged involvement in the New York rapper's March 1997 murder. The officer, David Mack, was never accused by prosecutors and has been dropped from the suit. The suit also alleges the LAPD looked the other way as its officers associated with gang members while moonlighting as guards for B.I.G.'s record label and rival Death Row Records. At a downtown news conference,Sanders said the dismissal of alleged conspirators didn't weaken the family's civil rights claim. "This case is now focused solely on the LAPD," he said. "They are the people charged with preventing and solving homicides such as this, even if it means looking at some of their own dirty laundry." Sanders was flanked by the rapper's mother Voletta Wallace and widow, R&B singer Faith Evans. When asked about the case, Wallace said Sanders spoke for her. Evans, wearing a black pantsuit, black hat and sunglasses, didn't speak. The attorney argued that recent interviews in which key witnesses have backed away from past statements were prompted by anxious fear that "whoever did this is going to come after them." "All of a sudden, people get amnesia," he said. "Amnesia is a funny thing. It can't be cured in the courtroom." On Monday, the Los Angeles Times published an interview with Kevin Hackie, who in previous police interviews and in a deposition for the trial linked Mack with Death Row leader Marion "Suge" Knight. According to the theory driving the Wallace suit, Mack arranged for the rapper's murder at Knight's behest. Hackie, who provided security for Death Row, told the newspaper he couldn't remember everything he had said due to stress and medication he was taking. "My memory is bad," he was quoted as saying. "I'm going to answer questions to the best of my knowledge, what I remember. But this whole thing has put me over the edge. I am so stressed. I probably won't even remember our conversation tomorrow." I hope they soolve at least ONE of these two murders...they need to call them fellas from CSI or Cold Case...they solve evry damn thing 
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I dont think it has anything to do with "rap" music in general, despite what u all heard from Chris Rock  
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OnionJuice said: TonyVanDam said: Hello, David Kenner has a HUGE hand in this too. And he also has very close ties with crime families. As for Harry-O, interesting! But again, who grows the drugs that black crime loads like Harry-O sells? You know damn good and well that it's not the hood or the projects! David Kenner had a hand in starting DeathRow, but ony too a SMALL degree cause it wasnt his money that started DeathRow - it was Harry-O's. Not directly, anyway. When you said the Blood & Crips were funded by the mafia, you werent making any sense until you said where the drugs came from, so okay, you're on point there. And yeah, I know Kenner has mafia ties, but he was DeathRow's attorney - he just used his legal resources to make things happen for them. But back to the original thing, y'all cant tell me dont believe the hype when Im the one stating the facts - take your own advice. Y'all are steady sayin Pac & Biggie's murders are part of some government/mafia conspiracy shit - but where are y'all's facts. Thats all hype you're buying into. When it all comes down to it, both Pac and Biggie's murders were gang related. BTW, in addition to what I said earlier about Orlando Anderson, he was also at that industry party Biggie was at (coincidence??)- its been rumored that Puffy hired Crips for security. The mafia money was giving to David Kenner to give to Suge Knight. That is exactly what I was saying. And of course, Harry-O was very involve as well. And BTW, I didn't say anything about the Bloods or the Crips. You did!!!  | |
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TonyVanDam said: OnionJuice said: David Kenner had a hand in starting DeathRow, but ony too a SMALL degree cause it wasnt his money that started DeathRow - it was Harry-O's. Not directly, anyway. When you said the Blood & Crips were funded by the mafia, you werent making any sense until you said where the drugs came from, so okay, you're on point there. And yeah, I know Kenner has mafia ties, but he was DeathRow's attorney - he just used his legal resources to make things happen for them. But back to the original thing, y'all cant tell me dont believe the hype when Im the one stating the facts - take your own advice. Y'all are steady sayin Pac & Biggie's murders are part of some government/mafia conspiracy shit - but where are y'all's facts. Thats all hype you're buying into. When it all comes down to it, both Pac and Biggie's murders were gang related. BTW, in addition to what I said earlier about Orlando Anderson, he was also at that industry party Biggie was at (coincidence??)- its been rumored that Puffy hired Crips for security. The mafia money was giving to David Kenner to give to Suge Knight. That is exactly what I was saying. And of course, Harry-O was very involve as well. And BTW, I didn't say anything about the Bloods or the Crips. You did!!! Look, David Kenner didnt put no money into Death Row. David Kenner was was Harry-O's lawyer, whom he introduced to Suge, whom was tryna start a label. Harry was in jail at the time for a drug conviction, so he had Kenner bring Suge in to visit him. Harry-O put up 1.5 million dollars to start an entertainment corporation called GF Entertainment that would include a record division called Death Row Records. But then Suge & Dre secretly cut a deal with Interscope without him knowing. Kenner then quit dealing with Harry (even though that was his lawyer) and started dealing more with Suge, becoming DeathRow's attorney. So DeathRow wasnt started on no mafia money. I reccommend you watch the "Welcome to Death Row" documentary for more insight on everything. And I know you didnt say anything about Blood & Crips, but Hotlegs did. I was responding to both of y'all cause y'all are basically sayin the same things. But bottom line, there is NO government/mafia conspiracy behind their murders - thats all bullshit. [Edited 6/24/05 22:02pm] Onion Juice appears courtesy of Streethop.com | |
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OnionJuice said: TonyVanDam said: The mafia money was giving to David Kenner to give to Suge Knight. That is exactly what I was saying. And of course, Harry-O was very involve as well. And BTW, I didn't say anything about the Bloods or the Crips. You did!!! Well, you still seem sort of in the dark about just who Harry-O is, so I reccommend you watch the "Welcome to Death Row" documentary for more insight on everything. And I know you didnt say anything about Blood & Crips, but Hotlegs did. I was responding to both of y'all cause y'all are basically sayin the same things. But bottom line, there is NO government/mafia conspiracy behind their murders - thats all bullshit. [Edited 6/24/05 21:44pm] For the last fucking time, the Bloods and Crips are funded by the Mafia. So you got your opinion and thats fine and theres no need to take it to the High School Level that you have taken it end of story. We agree to disagree. There is no for you to bitch over. Grow Up Already [Edited 6/24/05 22:04pm] | |
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OnionJuice said: TonyVanDam said: The mafia money was giving to David Kenner to give to Suge Knight. That is exactly what I was saying. And of course, Harry-O was very involve as well. And BTW, I didn't say anything about the Bloods or the Crips. You did!!! Well, you still seem sort of in the dark about just who Harry-O is, so I reccommend you watch the "Welcome to Death Row" documentary for more insight on everything. And I know you didnt say anything about Blood & Crips, but Hotlegs did. I was responding to both of y'all cause y'all are basically sayin the same things. But bottom line, there is NO government/mafia conspiracy behind their murders - thats all bullshit. [Edited 6/24/05 21:44pm] Biggie was a victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time (the west coast in general). Nonetheless, it was tragic. 
Now the murder of 2pac on the other hand, THAT is some deep offensive foul shit of controversy even today! 
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Hotlegs said: OnionJuice said: Well, you still seem sort of in the dark about just who Harry-O is, so I reccommend you watch the "Welcome to Death Row" documentary for more insight on everything. And I know you didnt say anything about Blood & Crips, but Hotlegs did. I was responding to both of y'all cause y'all are basically sayin the same things. But bottom line, there is NO government/mafia conspiracy behind their murders - thats all bullshit. [Edited 6/24/05 21:44pm] For the last fucking time, the Bloods and Crips are funded by the Mafia. So you got your opinion and thats fine and theres no need to take it to the High School Level that you have taken it end of story. We agree to disagree. There is no for you to bitch over. Grow Up Already [Edited 6/24/05 22:04pm] http://www.daveyd.com/ | |
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Hotlegs said: OnionJuice said: Well, you still seem sort of in the dark about just who Harry-O is, so I reccommend you watch the "Welcome to Death Row" documentary for more insight on everything. And I know you didnt say anything about Blood & Crips, but Hotlegs did. I was responding to both of y'all cause y'all are basically sayin the same things. But bottom line, there is NO government/mafia conspiracy behind their murders - thats all bullshit. [Edited 6/24/05 21:44pm] For the last fucking time, the Bloods and Crips are funded by the Mafia. So you got your opinion and thats fine and theres no need to take it to the High School Level that you have taken it end of story. We agree to disagree. There is no for you to bitch over. Grow Up Already [Edited 6/24/05 22:04pm] See, this why I cant ever have a discussion on this board. Nobody was even arguing, its was good conversation up until now. I thought we were just having when we were going back and forth quoting shit that was already said, but I aint didnt it was bothering you so damn much. Since when did you even start talkin? I mean, dont you usually co-sign to other people's shit with a nodding smilies or something? You're usually a cool chick - are you on your period today. But I done it. I just I know not to talk about anything hiphop/urban-related this board. But Who really needs to grow up? Aint me. Edit: BTW, hey TonyVanDamn, Davey D's site is like the most resourceful hiphop site on the internet - I know you're definately up on your game. Keep it tight. [Edited 6/24/05 22:31pm] Onion Juice appears courtesy of Streethop.com | |
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Hotlegs said: OnionJuice said: Well, you still seem sort of in the dark about just who Harry-O is, so I reccommend you watch the "Welcome to Death Row" documentary for more insight on everything. And I know you didnt say anything about Blood & Crips, but Hotlegs did. I was responding to both of y'all cause y'all are basically sayin the same things. But bottom line, there is NO government/mafia conspiracy behind their murders - thats all bullshit. [Edited 6/24/05 21:44pm] For the last fucking time, the Bloods and Crips are funded by the Mafia. So you got your opinion and thats fine and theres no need to take it to the High School Level that you have taken it end of story. We agree to disagree. There is no for you to bitch over. Grow Up Already [Edited 6/24/05 22:04pm] | |
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OnionJuice said: Hotlegs said: For the last fucking time, the Bloods and Crips are funded by the Mafia. So you got your opinion and thats fine and theres no need to take it to the High School Level that you have taken it end of story. We agree to disagree. There is no for you to bitch over. Grow Up Already [Edited 6/24/05 22:04pm] See, this why I cant ever have a discussion on this board. Nobody was even arguing, its was good conversation up until now. I thought we were just having when we were going back and forth quoting shit that was already said, but I aint didnt it was bothering you so damn much. Since when did you even start talkin? I mean, dont you usually co-sign to other people's shit with a nodding smilies or something? You're usually a cool chick - are you on your period today. But I done it. I just I know not to talk about anything hiphop/urban-related this board. But Who really needs to grow up? Aint me. Edit: BTW, hey TonyVanDamn, Davey D's site is like the most resourceful hiphop site on the internet - I know you're definately up on your game. Keep it tight. [Edited 6/24/05 22:31pm] Onion Juice you are really comical. Only imature ignorant muthafuckas go to the levels that you have by making comments about womens period. Like a give a shit. Again, learn to act like fucking a adult and agree to disagree and don't get mad and have bitch fits b/c you can't have your way. That's what baby's who want their snack . Here's a  big baby. Just take a  and and cool the fuck down and learn how to act like a damn adult.[Edited 6/24/05 22:52pm] | |
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MsLegs said: OnionJuice said: See, this why I cant ever have a discussion on this board. Nobody was even arguing, its was good conversation up until now. I thought we were just having when we were going back and forth quoting shit that was already said, but I aint didnt it was bothering you so damn much. Since when did you even start talkin? I mean, dont you usually co-sign to other people's shit with a nodding smilies or something? You're usually a cool chick - are you on your period today. But I done it. I just I know not to talk about anything hiphop/urban-related this board. But Who really needs to grow up? Aint me. Edit: BTW, hey TonyVanDamn, Davey D's site is like the most resourceful hiphop site on the internet - I know you're definately up on your game. Keep it tight. [Edited 6/24/05 22:31pm] Onion Juice you are really comical. Only imature ignorant muthafuckas go to the levels that you have by making comments about womens period. Like a give a shit. Again, learn to act like fucking a adult and agree to disagree and don't get mad and have bitch fits b/c you can't have your way. That's what baby's who want their snack . Here's a big baby. Just take a and and cool the fuck down and learn how to act like a damn adult.
[Edited 6/24/05 22:52pm] Like I said before, you're usually a cool person, but today yo' ass is just trippin. I just wondering what the fuck is wrong your with you. MAybe it aint your period, maybe its drugs, I dunno.... But, Ima here's lil review of this thread: First, you claimed that Pac & Biggie's murders were part of a government/mafia conspiracy without even giving any facts to support your theory. Kisscamille ask you to give some insight and you replied to her by saying: Look if you all want to give Suge all this credit that he's that sophistitcated to orchestrate different murders then go ahead and be that fucking stupid. All I saying is that there is an organization behind him who fund the record companies, smuggles and weapons into the urban commmunities . Suge is nothing more than a fucking pon and some you are some dumb fuckers for thinking that he would have so much power. And thats all I am going to say on the matter. Now go ahead and read between the lines and don't beleive the propagnada the media is feeding you.
Was all of that necessary? Calling us "dumb fuckers" and shit? And still you giving no facts. Then you go on to say: Personally, I don't think Suge Knight is shit. What I am saying is that there is a massive crime syndicate which is bigger than your small time Puff Daddy's and Suge Knights that run this motherfucker. Watch the movie Panther and read about the Black Panthers and Payolla in the record buisiness you'll understand.
We shouldnt have to watch no damn movie. You're steady poppin this conspiracy shit so you should be able to tell us yourself. I explain how their murders not part of a government/mafia conspiracy with something called "facts" which you failed to deliver you support your theory and respond to me sayin: Bullshit. Who the hell do you think funds the damn Crips and the Bloods? Get a fucking clue and stop being so damn naive and feeding into the propaganda that the media and society feeds you.
"Don't Believe The Hype." Still no facts. Me and Tony have your lil intelluctual conversation, then you respond to me saying: For the last fucking time, the Bloods and Crips are funded by the Mafia. So you got your opinion and thats fine and theres no need to take it to the High School Level that you have taken it end of story. We agree to disagree. There is no for you to bitch over. Grow Up Already.
Once again, you're not backin any of the shit you're sayin up with any facts. So I think speak for everybody here when I say "shut the fuck up". You're gettin all bent over and out of shape over nothing. So no, you grow the fuck up. Why dont you get yourself a Coke and go hide in your closet since you buy into that conspiracy shit - their probably out to get you....whoever the fuck you're talkin about. LOL! [Edited 6/24/05 23:55pm] Onion Juice appears courtesy of Streethop.com | |
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Ex-detective testifies in B.I.G. lawsuit
LOS ANGELES (AP) — A retired police detective testified Thursday that he was shocked when a prison cellmate of Marion "Suge" Knight said the Death Row Records founder had confessed to the slaying of Notorious B.I.G., one of several clues he said linked the rap mogul to the killing. Fred Miller, who retired from the Los Angeles Police Department in 1999 after 29 years on the force and two years investigating the New York rapper's killing, told a federal court jury, "I felt we possibly at one time had enough" evidence to arrest Knight. Miller described the alleged confession, gunshot residue inside Knight's Chevrolet sedan and a flurry of calls placed among Death Row associates in the two hours before the killing, but said he was unable to come up with any concrete connection between the rap mogul and the man he thought was the shooter, Amir Muhammad. Miller's testimony came in the federal wrongful death trial in which B.I.G.'s family blames the LAPD and city for his 1997 killing. It accuses former officer David Mack of using his police expertise or equipment to arrange for Muhammad to carry out the slaying at Knight's behest. Knight, who has unrelated convictions for assault and weapons, was never named an official suspect or arrested, has repeatedly denied involvement and was not named in the suit. "It's an indefensible position Mr. Knight is in," his attorney Dermot Givens told The Associated Press. "It's just a strange position to see a court place people in." Muhammad became a possible suspect after visiting Mack at the start of Mack's 14-year prison sentence for bank robbery. An informant told Miller a man with a name sounding like Muhammad was the shooter, and Miller said he sent out for a driver's license mug shot of the Fontana mortgage broker. "I thought the case was solved as soon as I saw that photograph," he testified. "Very uncanny, the resemblance of the composite drawing done by the witnesses and the driver's license photo of Amir Muhammad." However, when Miller took the Muhammad photo and others to three eyewitnesses in New York, they were unable to positively identify him. One man who had been with B.I.G. on the night he was killed did, however, identify a photo of Mack. The witness, Damion Butler, told Miller that Mack "could've been there — he looked like he could've been one of the people standing at the door" to the Petersen Automotive Museum, Miller testified. B.I.G., born Christopher Wallace, was 24 when he was gunned down after leaving a party at the museum shortly after midnight on March 9, 1997. The case remains officially unsolved. Miller testified that after he presented all his evidence to the Los Angeles County prosecutor following the case, "He just felt we were just not quite there yet." Miller, who presented himself as very much the retired detective in a green-and-white Hawaiian-style shirt and regular "Yes, sir" answers, was a one-time partner of LAPD Detective David Poole. Poole, also scheduled to testify, has been a much more outspoken advocate for the Knight-Mack-Muhammad theory advanced in the Wallace family's lawsuit. And much of Miller's description of his investigation came during cross-examination, in which City Attorney Don Vincent got him to acknowledge that he never found any evidence linking Mack to the crime. Under direct questioning from Wallace family attorney Robert Frank, Miller related his surprise after interviewing Mario Ha'mmond, a cellmate of Knight at a San Luis Obispo prison. "I was rather shocked at what he told me," Miller said. "He told me he had spoken with an individual named Suge Knight and that Knight told him that he had had Biggie Smalls murdered." Miller said verified part of Ha'mmond's story and still believes "the information he provided us was very good." A search warrant affidavit filed by Miller's partner at the time and released this week by Wallace family attorneys quotes Ha'mmond as recounting his conversation with Knight. Miller confirmed its contents Thursday. It states Knight told Ha'mmond, "that fat bitch took it like a bitch. Rolled up on his ass and smoked his fat ass. I got the fat ass. My people took care of it. ... We wanted to let them know 'Damoo' (Swahili for Blood) got him on the West Side."
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