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Reply #30 posted 06/23/05 1:46am

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En Vogue by far. Destiny's Child is like nails on a chalkboard for me. ill
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Reply #31 posted 06/23/05 4:36am

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sorry neither, i have to go with THE SUPREMES, as destiny's child are annoying as hell, and i've never heard of en vouge before.

Sorry, disqualified! The Supremes are not part of this discussion. We know they'd win if they were. And really? You've never heard of En Vogue?
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Reply #32 posted 06/23/05 4:39am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

hellomoto said:

sorry neither, i have to go with THE SUPREMES, as destiny's child are annoying as hell, and i've never heard of en vouge before.

Sorry, disqualified! The Supremes are not part of this discussion. We know they'd win if they were. And really? You've never heard of En Vogue?


I hate when a third party gets thrown into the mix too....kinda defeats the whole point of choosing.
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Reply #33 posted 06/23/05 4:42am

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Moonbeam said:

En Vogue by far. Destiny's Child is like nails on a chalkboard for me. ill


I think DC's personality or lack thereof gets under my skin more. They seem so ditzy and phony in interviews. Instead of worrying about their hair, make-up, and clothes, I think they should practice their social skills a little more often. Beyonce and Michelle are god awful when it comes to giving interviews. smile
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Reply #34 posted 06/23/05 6:55am

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This is a joke thread, righ?


En Vogue.

The end.
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Reply #35 posted 06/23/05 10:17pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

hellomoto said:

sorry neither, i have to go with THE SUPREMES, as destiny's child are annoying as hell, and i've never heard of en vouge before.

Sorry, disqualified! The Supremes are not part of this discussion. We know they'd win if they were. And really? You've never heard of En Vogue?


F*** that!!! En Vogue would kill The Supremes (especially Diana Ross) within Round 1!!!!
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Reply #36 posted 06/24/05 1:23am

hellomoto

RipHer2Shreds said:

hellomoto said:

sorry neither, i have to go with THE SUPREMES, as destiny's child are annoying as hell, and i've never heard of en vouge before.

Sorry, disqualified! The Supremes are not part of this discussion. We know they'd win if they were. And really? You've never heard of En Vogue?

yes, im telling the truth, never heard of them. they had to be either before my time, or just not popular in australia.

name some of their songs, maybe i'll know them.

oh and to tonyvandam SUPREMES RULE!
[Edited 6/24/05 1:23am]
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Reply #37 posted 06/24/05 1:30am

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TonyVanDam said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


Sorry, disqualified! The Supremes are not part of this discussion. We know they'd win if they were. And really? You've never heard of En Vogue?


F*** that!!! En Vogue would kill The Supremes (especially Diana Ross) within Round 1!!!!



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Reply #38 posted 06/24/05 12:44pm

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TonyVanDam said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


Sorry, disqualified! The Supremes are not part of this discussion. We know they'd win if they were. And really? You've never heard of En Vogue?


F*** that!!! En Vogue would kill The Supremes (especially Diana Ross) within Round 1!!!!


i agree


anyhoo en vogue is the winner with a ko in the first round with dc
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Reply #39 posted 06/24/05 2:24pm

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Oh man, En Vouge by a mile. I didn't buy any of their albums but I liked the songs they released. I like Destiny's Child but between the 2, the Funky Divas got it on lock.
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Reply #40 posted 06/24/05 3:11pm

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hellomoto said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


Sorry, disqualified! The Supremes are not part of this discussion. We know they'd win if they were. And really? You've never heard of En Vogue?

yes, im telling the truth, never heard of them. they had to be either before my time, or just not popular in australia.

name some of their songs, maybe i'll know them.

oh and to tonyvandam SUPREMES RULE!
[Edited 6/24/05 1:23am]


Here a little something to help you catch up on En Vogue:
http://www.allmusic.com/c...ud6j5271e0

BTW, Diana Ross is no match for ANY member of En Vogue! wink
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Reply #41 posted 06/24/05 3:16pm

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theAudience said:

TonyVanDam said:



F*** that!!! En Vogue would kill The Supremes (especially Diana Ross) within Round 1!!!!



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Florence Ballard would have been THE ONLY member of The Supremes that can battle any member of En Vogue.

But as for Mary Wilson & Diana Ross, En Vogue (Dawn, Cindy, Maxine, & Terry) would destory them. And you know it!!!
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Reply #42 posted 06/24/05 4:22pm

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I am so glad this thread represented correctly! I was in no mood for any shenanigans. Like Christophers Signature said.....En Vogue is a Pepsi commercial and Destiny's Child is Michael Jackson's hair mr.green
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Reply #43 posted 06/24/05 4:48pm

RipHer2Shreds

TonyVanDam said:

theAudience said:



Florence Ballard would have been THE ONLY member of The Supremes that can battle any member of En Vogue.

But as for Mary Wilson & Diana Ross, En Vogue (Dawn, Cindy, Maxine, & Terry) would destory them. And you know it!!!

If you're just comparing voices, probably. If you're comparing quality of the material they performed and the performance itself...no way, no how! En Vogue was a producer-driven group, and when that production team faltered so did they. Foster/McElroy had their time, but a whole catalogue of En Vogue's songs couldn't even compete with Reflections or I Hear a Symphony alone!
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Reply #44 posted 06/24/05 4:52pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

hellomoto said:

sorry neither, i have to go with THE SUPREMES, as destiny's child are annoying as hell, and i've never heard of en vouge before.

Sorry, disqualified! The Supremes are not part of this discussion. We know they'd win if they were. And really? You've never heard of En Vogue?
Why would the Supremes win? I hate Diana Ross' voice. Ewwww. Terri Ellis could sing Diana's ass under a table.
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Reply #45 posted 06/24/05 4:55pm

Stymie

TonyVanDam said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


Sorry, disqualified! The Supremes are not part of this discussion. We know they'd win if they were. And really? You've never heard of En Vogue?


F*** that!!! En Vogue would kill The Supremes (especially Diana Ross) within Round 1!!!!
clapping I agree wholeheartedly. I own a bunch of EnVogue and no Supremes.
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Reply #46 posted 06/24/05 5:30pm

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The thread had nothing to do with The Supremes but since we've had to go there. rolleyes

It was group vs group not individual vs individual.
That being the case, feel free to come up with a comparable En Vogue list of 20 strong songs...

Where Did Our Love Go
Baby Love
Stop! In The Name Of Love
Back In My Arms Again
Come See About Me
Nothing But Heartaches
I Hear A Symphony
Love Is Here Now You're Gone
My World Is Empty Without You
The Happening
You Keep Me Hangin' On
You Can't Hurry Love
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart
Reflections
Someday We'll Be Together
Love Child
In And Out Of Love
Stoned Love
Nathan Jones
Up The Ladder To The Roof


...I'll be here in the corner waiting



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Reply #47 posted 06/24/05 5:58pm

Stymie

theAudience said:

The thread had nothing to do with The Supremes but since we've had to go there. rolleyes

It was group vs group not individual vs individual.
That being the case, feel free to come up with a comparable En Vogue list of 20 strong songs...

Where Did Our Love Go
Baby Love
Stop! In The Name Of Love
Back In My Arms Again
Come See About Me
Nothing But Heartaches
I Hear A Symphony
Love Is Here Now You're Gone
My World Is Empty Without You
The Happening
You Keep Me Hangin' On
You Can't Hurry Love
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart
Reflections
Someday We'll Be Together
Love Child
In And Out Of Love
Stoned Love
Nathan Jones
Up The Ladder To The Roof


...I'll be here in the corner waiting



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They really should not have ended up on the same thread, just like you can't really compare DC to EnVogue. It's a matter of personal preference to me: EV over DC, Lizz Wright over every female singer out right now.
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Reply #48 posted 06/24/05 5:59pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

TonyVanDam said:



Florence Ballard would have been THE ONLY member of The Supremes that can battle any member of En Vogue.

But as for Mary Wilson & Diana Ross, En Vogue (Dawn, Cindy, Maxine, & Terry) would destory them. And you know it!!!

If you're just comparing voices, probably. If you're comparing quality of the material they performed and the performance itself...no way, no how! En Vogue was a producer-driven group, and when that production team faltered so did they. Foster/McElroy had their time, but a whole catalogue of En Vogue's songs couldn't even compete with Reflections or I Hear a Symphony alone!



so were the Supremes. they didn't do anything til Barry switched their producers. only reason Diana Ross became the superstar was Barry pushed her into that role, same as Beyonce.

En Vogue is much better than DC.
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Reply #49 posted 06/24/05 8:33pm

RipHer2Shreds

ehuffnsd said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


If you're just comparing voices, probably. If you're comparing quality of the material they performed and the performance itself...no way, no how! En Vogue was a producer-driven group, and when that production team faltered so did they. Foster/McElroy had their time, but a whole catalogue of En Vogue's songs couldn't even compete with Reflections or I Hear a Symphony alone!



so were the Supremes. they didn't do anything til Barry switched their producers. only reason Diana Ross became the superstar was Barry pushed her into that role, same as Beyonce.

En Vogue is much better than DC.

Yes, they were, but again, they had much better people behind them and much better songwriters.
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Reply #50 posted 06/24/05 8:43pm

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I loved/love EnVogue, and miss them all as a group.
They don't make them like that no more.


I gotta go listen to 'em now.
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Reply #51 posted 06/24/05 8:45pm

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1. En Vogue is better than DC, not because En Vogue is the greatest ever, but DC has put out some of the worst songs in the history of popular music.

2. En Vogue had chops, but their no match for Diana and the Supremes. Diana Ross is a great live performer, quite honestly one of the most electrifying/charismatic of her type. Diana alone would blow En Vogue away in their prime.
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Reply #52 posted 06/24/05 9:39pm

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theAudience said:

The thread had nothing to do with The Supremes but since we've had to go there. rolleyes

It was group vs group not individual vs individual.
That being the case, feel free to come up with a comparable En Vogue list of 20 strong songs...

Where Did Our Love Go
Baby Love
Stop! In The Name Of Love
Back In My Arms Again
Come See About Me
Nothing But Heartaches
I Hear A Symphony
Love Is Here Now You're Gone
My World Is Empty Without You
The Happening
You Keep Me Hangin' On
You Can't Hurry Love
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart
Reflections
Someday We'll Be Together
Love Child
In And Out Of Love
Stoned Love
Nathan Jones
Up The Ladder To The Roof


...I'll be here in the corner waiting



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CORRECTION: You can exclude Love Child & Someday We'll Be Together from that list right now.

Both of those songs are actually THE VERY first 2 Diana Ross' solo singles!


And BTW, Diana never perform vocals on these songs at all:

In And Out Of Love
Stoned Love
Nathan Jones
Up The Ladder To The Roof
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Reply #53 posted 06/24/05 9:57pm

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theAudience said:

The thread had nothing to do with The Supremes but since we've had to go there. rolleyes

It was group vs group not individual vs individual.
That being the case, feel free to come up with a comparable En Vogue list of 20 strong songs...

Where Did Our Love Go
Baby Love
Stop! In The Name Of Love
Back In My Arms Again
Come See About Me
Nothing But Heartaches
I Hear A Symphony
Love Is Here Now You're Gone
My World Is Empty Without You
The Happening
You Keep Me Hangin' On
You Can't Hurry Love
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart
Reflections
Someday We'll Be Together
Love Child


...I'll be here in the corner waiting



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En Vogue Greatest Hits:

Hold On
Lie
Part Of Me
Don't Go
You Don't Have To Worry
Waitin' On You
Silent Night
My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)
Free Your Mind
Yesterday
Giving Him Something He Can Feel
Give It Up, Turn It Loose
Love Don't Love You
Runaway Love
Whatta Man
No Fool No More
Don't Let Go (Love)
Whatever
Too Gone, Too Long
Let It Flow
Riddie


Blackjack 21. I win!!! cool
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Reply #54 posted 06/24/05 10:04pm

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TonyVanDam said:

theAudience said:

The thread had nothing to do with The Supremes but since we've had to go there. rolleyes

It was group vs group not individual vs individual.
That being the case, feel free to come up with a comparable En Vogue list of 20 strong songs...

Where Did Our Love Go
Baby Love
Stop! In The Name Of Love
Back In My Arms Again
Come See About Me
Nothing But Heartaches
I Hear A Symphony
Love Is Here Now You're Gone
My World Is Empty Without You
The Happening
You Keep Me Hangin' On
You Can't Hurry Love
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart
Reflections
Someday We'll Be Together
Love Child


...I'll be here in the corner waiting



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En Vogue Greatest Hits:

Hold On
Lie
Part Of Me
Don't Go
You Don't Have To Worry
Waitin' On You
Silent Night
My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)
Free Your Mind
Yesterday
Giving Him Something He Can Feel
Give It Up, Turn It Loose
Love Don't Love You
Runaway Love
Whatta Man
No Fool No More
Don't Let Go (Love)
Whatever
Too Gone, Too Long
Let It Flow
Riddie


Blackjack 21. I win!!! cool


You're gonna compare that to the classics TA posted
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Reply #55 posted 06/24/05 11:38pm

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lilgish said:

TonyVanDam said:



En Vogue Greatest Hits:

Hold On
Lie
Part Of Me
Don't Go
You Don't Have To Worry
Waitin' On You
Silent Night
My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)
Free Your Mind
Yesterday
Giving Him Something He Can Feel
Give It Up, Turn It Loose
Love Don't Love You
Runaway Love
Whatta Man
No Fool No More
Don't Let Go (Love)
Whatever
Too Gone, Too Long
Let It Flow
Riddie


Blackjack 21. I win!!! cool


You're gonna compare that to the classics TA posted
eek


TA dare me to give him 20 En Vogue Songs to match 20 Supremes songs.

So I gave him/her 21!!! Sue Me! biggrin

BTW Lilgish, do you really believe that The Supremes (especially Diana Ross for crying out loud) could even beat THE Funky Divas?

I know the late Florence Ballard could have won some seriously battles. But Mary Wilson, Cindy Songbird, or Diana Ross? No freaking way!!!
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Reply #56 posted 06/25/05 3:19am

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TonyVanDam said:

theAudience said:

The thread had nothing to do with The Supremes but since we've had to go there. rolleyes

It was group vs group not individual vs individual.
That being the case, feel free to come up with a comparable En Vogue list of 20 strong songs...

Where Did Our Love Go
Baby Love
Stop! In The Name Of Love
Back In My Arms Again
Come See About Me
Nothing But Heartaches
I Hear A Symphony
Love Is Here Now You're Gone
My World Is Empty Without You
The Happening
You Keep Me Hangin' On
You Can't Hurry Love
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart
Reflections
Someday We'll Be Together
Love Child


...I'll be here in the corner waiting



cool

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En Vogue Greatest Hits:

Hold On
Lie
Part Of Me
Don't Go
You Don't Have To Worry
Waitin' On You
Silent Night
My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)
Free Your Mind
Yesterday
Giving Him Something He Can Feel
Give It Up, Turn It Loose
Love Don't Love You
Runaway Love
Whatta Man
No Fool No More
Don't Let Go (Love)
Whatever
Too Gone, Too Long
Let It Flow
Riddie


Blackjack 21. I win!!! cool


lol Nice try bro, but you're only semi-slick. pimp2

My challenge was not for "20 En Vogue Songs" but "a comparable En Vogue list of 20 strong songs".
Again, The Supremes were not even part of the original discussion. But so be it.
Then you came back for seconds on red herring by trying to pit solo vocalist against solo vocalist. no no no!

I personally don't like Diana Ross as a solo artist, but in the context of The Supremes it works.
The objective of The Supremes as a group is not to out-sing anybody but to sing the songs.

As for your list, imo, they're not 20 strong songs and they're definitely not comparable to The Supremes 20.
(Foster & McElroy vs Holland, Dozier, Holland? Las Vegas probably wouldn't even put that on the board. lol )

How about an "E" for effort? highfive

Someday We'll Be Together stays on the list because it's the last #1 Supremes single...



...Diana Ross & The Supremes to be exact. (Which is still The Supremes only Diana Ross gets top billing)
It's the final song Diana Ross recorded and performed with the group.
Berry Gordy decided to release Reach Out and Touch as Diana's 1st solo single.


Love child...



...is also a Diana Ross & The Supremes record.

In And Out Of Love
Stoned Love
Nathan Jones
Up The Ladder To The Roof
all stay because, once again, they are songs by The Supremes.

You brought up The Supremes. "En Vogue would kill The Supremes" (your words), remember?


Your shot. wink


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Reply #57 posted 06/25/05 3:43am

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What happend to En Vogue anyway?

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Reply #58 posted 06/25/05 5:16am

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TonyVanDam said:

theAudience said:

The thread had nothing to do with The Supremes but since we've had to go there. rolleyes

It was group vs group not individual vs individual.
That being the case, feel free to come up with a comparable En Vogue list of 20 strong songs...

Where Did Our Love Go
Baby Love
Stop! In The Name Of Love
Back In My Arms Again
Come See About Me
Nothing But Heartaches
I Hear A Symphony
Love Is Here Now You're Gone
My World Is Empty Without You
The Happening
You Keep Me Hangin' On
You Can't Hurry Love
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart
Reflections
Someday We'll Be Together
Love Child
In And Out Of Love
Stoned Love
Nathan Jones
Up The Ladder To The Roof


...I'll be here in the corner waiting



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CORRECTION: You can exclude Love Child & Someday We'll Be Together from that list right now.

Both of those songs are actually THE VERY first 2 Diana Ross' solo singles!

Wrong. Both Love Child and Someday We'll Be Together were credited to Diana Ross & The Supremes. They charted in October 1968 and November 1969 respectively. Diana Ross' first solo hit was Reach Out and Touch (Somebody's Hand) in May 1970.

And BTW, Diana never perform vocals on these songs at all:

In And Out Of Love
Stoned Love
Nathan Jones
Up The Ladder To The Roof

Point? The Supremes aren't even supposed to be in this debate! lol And nobody ever said that only The Supremes with Diana Ross were to be mentioned in this debate that didn't concern them in the first place.
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Reply #59 posted 06/25/05 12:52pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:[quote]

TonyVanDam said:


Wrong. Both Love Child and Someday We'll Be Together were credited to Diana Ross & The Supremes. They charted in October 1968 and November 1969 respectively. Diana Ross' first solo hit was Reach Out and Touch (Somebody's Hand) in May 1970.

And BTW, Diana never perform vocals on these songs at all:

In And Out Of Love
Stoned Love
Nathan Jones
Up The Ladder To The Roof

Point? The Supremes aren't even supposed to be in this debate! lol And nobody ever said that only The Supremes with Diana Ross were to be mentioned in this debate that didn't concern them in the first place.


Neither Mary or Cindy were ever in the studio during the vocal recording of Love Child or Someday We'll Be Together!!!

Berry Gordy was using totally different backing vocalists on both of THOSE songs. Love Child especially was a experiential song use to test how well Diana would handle the solo artist role in the future.

You're right to say that both songs are billed as Diana Ross & The Supremes. BUT, did Mary or Cindy had any part of those recording? No!!
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