Miles said:

Wow! The lack of knowledge on the org, I find very astonishing. First of Miles, I suggust that you study the origin of Country Music. Now, if you did, you would've found that Country Music derived from Blues which and Jazz which was a music form that Black American Slaves invented. So in fact, Ray and Charile were doing what came natural.

Hotlegs said:

I find this a very odd statement, legs. Don't you think that playing music, no matter its origin, is "natural" for a musician? Or are you saying that it is only "natural" if blacks play "black" music, and whites play "white" music, etc.?
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And i thought Madonna was disliked on this board.....

Elvis takes the cake.

And i just mentioned her name. Maybe it's best we turn this into a Madonna thread.

Hotlegs said:

OOOOOWWWWHHHEEEE!!!!

VoicesCarry said:

The meaning of my comment is implied and you can interpret it any you like. Country music is an extention of Blues which a music form the Blacks invented and perfected.

Hotlegs said:

and if you did a little research you'd find that Country music also has origins in traditional Irish and Scottish folk music, in fact if you listen to Early bluegrass some of it sounds exactly the same as the Irish music it has roots in. Country music, and all music in america does not come from one race in particular, it is a jumble of the various races that make up America. and it is that Mix that makes it so Imporatant and so popular, American Music belongs to no race, but to America as a whole.

Hotlegs said:

I see you roll your eyes at everyone who asks a valid question. And I think I got my answer.

VoicesCarry said:

Yeah, I rolled my eyes b/c the I already answer the question and I am not going to repeat myself.

Hotlegs said:

You didn't answer it before on this thread, as far as I can see. Sorry for not reading all your posts on all threads you've visited.

VoicesCarry said:

Save these please


Rule 3 is the funniest


The whitewashing of elvis thread was pretty good http://www.prince.org/msg/8/144714

VoicesCarry said:

Whatever, I see where this is leading and I don't have time for trival matters such as these. I am on to the next tread .

Hotlegs said:

Good.

Now the rest of us can get on with the actual topic.

funkpill said:

VoicesCarry said:

Yeah, get on with the bullshit topic .

funkpill said:

Elvis.....A good singer
Can't take that away from him....

But very very overrated.....

Funky?????

Unless, George Clinton was producing him....

funkpill said:

I have to agree w/you on that Pill. He had decent pipes. But, the only way that he would've got a hold of the Funk if the mothership touched down with Dr. Funkenstein George Clinton himself.

Musicians are not so into categorizing the ownership of genres as music fans are.

When I play with a black musician, they don't seem to mind if I play funky music. I don't mind if they play progressive rock. Musicians have much more respect for each other than that.

When someone creates something new & great why shouldn't we all use it? That's how the world progresses.

andyman91 said:

Good point my friend....
Agree with you totally....
But give credit, where credit is due.....
People have this notion that Elvis was the beginning of Rock and Roll, when he wasn't.....
Too me, Elvis was more Rhythm and Blues than he was rock.....
Now could he be funky?????
If he hook up with The Average White Band...
White folks can funk!!!!

funkpill said:

Tell'em Pill.

[b]Just because Elvis song, create music that came from a black back-ground, it doesn't mean he stole it.

When your a child and U see your favourite "football star" or what ever, and U wanna do everything he does, every kick, run, and what ever, but in your own lil way, does that mean U stole it?[/b]

Miles said:

You missed the point. Completely. Miles and the rest gave credit to their influences and neither of the artists they stole from were at a disadvantage to go on to be as successful with THEIR music as Elvis did with THEIR music. BIG...no HUGE difference.

funkpill said:

They don't wanna hear me, bruh. Ignorance is bliss far too often when it comes to speaking against Elvis.

VoicesCarry said:

Well, for the most part we're all products of our environment. Now when you consider SEGREGATION, Blacks had no real interaction with Whites so they played what they played, it just so happened to become a "Black" sound so to speak. Same goes for any group of people.

byronic said:

That would be a great speech about how America needs to be - had their not been slavery.

NeoSoulScribe said:

Right on!!

The bottomline is gonna be a tough pill for some to swallow but: Elvis got over singing Rhythm and Blues and taking Chuck Berry's moves and since he's White, they wanna call it "Rock N Roll". Same thing with Christina Aguillerra. Girl got pipes, MAJOR PIPES. She sang Genie In A Bottle and they call it pop but if you listen to that track and they way she sings it, it's straight R&B. If Brandy had sang the exact same cong under the same arrangement, it would be R&B and probably go unnoticed. Being White helped Elvis' success TREMENDOUSLY, trust me.

NeoSoulScribe said:

what in the hell does slavery have to do with the FACT that country music has origins in different races? country music borrows from irish/scottish folk music AND from Blues. and most american music has influences from different races. is this not true?

byronic said:

It meant you fail to realize that Black artists have gone UNCREDITED for a HUGE contribution in ALL forms of music, but you wanna try and sum everything up in this tight little speech about how "American music belongs to no race"...and I said: Tell that to the slaves about who owns what in "America."