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Thread started 06/14/05 11:00pm

lilgish

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If you were a young artist about to make your first solo album

What producer would you pick if you had to use a producer?
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Reply #1 posted 06/14/05 11:10pm

kiss85

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None of the ones that are producin this hip-hop shit, that's for sure. nod
They did WHAT??!.... disbelief
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Reply #2 posted 06/14/05 11:13pm

GangstaFam

I dunno. I think about this sometimes. Cuz I do wanna release albums. But I don't think I'd want the help of some hot shot producer, especially right out of the box. If I didn't produce it myself, I'd probably want a relative unknown. Someone that could help establish my vision with me, not for me. That said, I really miss seeing Flood's name all over my favorite bands' CD's.
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Reply #3 posted 06/14/05 11:19pm

theAudience

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For the music I would be doing, it would have to be someone that was a seasoned musician with a Jazz background that could understand what I was doing.

The 1st four names that came to mind...
Quincy Jones
Marcus Miller
Narada Michael Walden
Me'Shell Ndegéocello


tA

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Reply #4 posted 06/14/05 11:39pm

MsLegs

Well, in my situation, I have a refined voice with a vast range. My vocal influences are Chaka Kahn, Phyllis Hymen, Patti Labelle, Aretha Franklin, Tina Turner, and Evelyn Champayne King. With the flexibility of voice, I would need a producer that expereinced flexible. The following producers that I would select would be: Terry Lewis/Jimmy Jam, George Duke, Prince, and Narada Nicheal Walden.
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Reply #5 posted 06/15/05 12:59am

vainandy

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Someone unknown who is not famous yet.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #6 posted 06/15/05 1:11am

DavidEye

vainandy said:

Someone unknown who is not famous yet.



Exactly.I wouldn't want to work with producers who work with many other artists.I want my album to sound distinctive.I would probably choose...


Jamiroquai
Remy Shand


Jamiroquai has been around for awhile,but they have yet to produce another artist.Remy Shand has only been around for a few years,and he has never produced another artist.Both of these guys specialize in a retro-70s styled soul sound (no hip-hop influences whatsover),and that's what I would want for my debut album.Jamiroquai will bring the funk/disco,and Remy will help me come up with some sparkling,soulful ballads.
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Reply #7 posted 06/15/05 1:54am

rocknrolldave

I would go for Phil Spector, cos I reckon bullet proof glass has great acoustic qualities



big grin
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Reply #8 posted 06/15/05 2:20am

MsLegs

rocknrolldave said:

I would go for Phil Spector, cos I reckon bullet proof glass has great acoustic qualities



big grin

evillol Plus, he's a gangsta who likes to kill his women.
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Reply #9 posted 06/15/05 2:44am

Moonwalkbjrain

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definately an unknown...but someone who is unique, that doesn't do the usual hip hop drum, bass and sample shit...someone who can do it all and go all out
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #10 posted 06/15/05 3:24am

rocknrolldave

DavidEye said:

vainandy said:

Someone unknown who is not famous yet.



Exactly.I wouldn't want to work with producers who work with many other artists.I want my album to sound distinctive.I would probably choose...


Jamiroquai
Remy Shand


Jamiroquai has been around for awhile,but they have yet to produce another artist.Remy Shand has only been around for a few years,and he has never produced another artist.Both of these guys specialize in a retro-70s styled soul sound (no hip-hop influences whatsover),and that's what I would want for my debut album.Jamiroquai will bring the funk/disco,and Remy will help me come up with some sparkling,soulful ballads.




Actually, and I don't mean to insult anyone's taste here, but I find that the Jamiroquai albums are poorly produced .


My job is to compile music profiles for background music in restaurants/ pubs etc, mostly on CD. Jamiroquai tracks are hard to use because, when sat in between tracks by other artists, Jamiroquai songs have a muffled, over-compressed quality to them ,like someone has messed with the treble controls. Seriously, try a side-by-side comparison and you'll see what I mean.

The band certainly have their own sound, which is very important for any band, and there are definite plus points to the production too, but where's the treble?!
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Reply #11 posted 06/15/05 5:59am

mltijchr

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what?????


1st album, 3rd album, 10th album
I WOULD PRODUCE MYSELF.

otherwise I would not record the album.

who knows how the record should sound more than I?
who knows what instruments & which arrangements & such to do on each track better than I??

I am not "against" someone have someone else produce (or "executive produce") their record- I know that not every musician can or wants to produce themselves..
but if it's ME, if it's about MY music
then I am DEFINITELY calling ALL THE SHOTS.
no question or doubt about that.
I'll see you tonight..
in ALL MY DREAMS..
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Reply #12 posted 06/15/05 6:46am

MsLegs

mltijchr said:

what?????


1st album, 3rd album, 10th album
I WOULD PRODUCE MYSELF.

otherwise I would not record the album.

who knows how the record should sound more than I?
who knows what instruments & which arrangements & such to do on each track better than I??

I am not "against" someone have someone else produce (or "executive produce") their record- I know that not every musician can or wants to produce themselves..
but if it's ME, if it's about MY music
then I am DEFINITELY calling ALL THE SHOTS.
no question or doubt about that.

hmmm That's a thought.
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Reply #13 posted 06/15/05 7:23am

lilgish

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mltijchr said:

what?????


1st album, 3rd album, 10th album
I WOULD PRODUCE MYSELF.

otherwise I would not record the album.

who knows how the record should sound more than I?
who knows what instruments & which arrangements & such to do on each track better than I??

I am not "against" someone have someone else produce (or "executive produce") their record- I know that not every musician can or wants to produce themselves..
but if it's ME, if it's about MY music
then I am DEFINITELY calling ALL THE SHOTS.
no question or doubt about that.




if you had...of course we know the exception (s), but most record companies insist on a producer. If you had to pick one, who would it be?
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Reply #14 posted 06/15/05 7:35am

JANFAN4L

Cool thread. I've actually thought about this question and have given it serious thought.

[Time sensitive information... you snooze, you lose. - JANFAN4L]


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Reply #15 posted 06/15/05 7:38am

mltijchr

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ah, okay..

if I were a young artist working on my 1st album,
I would want to have none other than

DONALD FAGEN & WALTER BECKER

to produce my album. their AMAZING knowledge of music, their music proficiency, their songwriting ability & their METICULOUS.. attention to detail
would ensure that not only would my album have the influence of 2 very good musicians..
but think of all that I would LEARN from working with them!
I'll see you tonight..
in ALL MY DREAMS..
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Reply #16 posted 06/15/05 8:07am

theAudience

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mltijchr said:

ah, okay..

if I were a young artist working on my 1st album,
I would want to have none other than

DONALD FAGEN & WALTER BECKER

to produce my album. their AMAZING knowledge of music, their music proficiency, their songwriting ability & their METICULOUS.. attention to detail
would ensure that not only would my album have the influence of 2 very good musicians..
but think of all that I would LEARN from working with them!

Excellent choice. thumbs up!

It might take 10 years for your album to be completed, but still an excellent choice.


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

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"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #17 posted 06/15/05 8:09am

avatarfunk

good question! biggrin

here it is

Artist:Mercedes

Title:self-titled

it would be a total of 12 tracks.

i would produce the first six. but the other six i would love to have producing

my songs would be:

1)Prince

2)Madonna

3)Richard Marx

4)RZA from the Wu-Tang Clan(remember that song by heavy d called "don't curse?".well that's what we're talkin' for this track.still keep it hot for the streets though. wink )

5)Chante Moore


6)Sheila E.


i think i got a pretty good mix..3 women,3 men.

it would be in the R & B section.
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Reply #18 posted 06/15/05 11:52am

GangstaFam

JanFan and DavidEye - I didn't know you were musicians. Cool!
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Reply #19 posted 06/15/05 12:38pm

theAudience

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Based on the responses, i'll clarify my needs for the producer.

All my material would be self-written and arranged so what I would need the "producer" for...
1) a set of emotionally unattached ears.
2) a potential collaborator to embellish my ideas.
(which is why I specified a seasoned musician with a Jazz background)

Otherwise i'd be fighting THE MAN (record company) for creative control.

hmmm Sounds familiar


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #20 posted 06/15/05 12:44pm

mltijchr

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theAudience said:


Excellent choice. thumbs up!

It might take 10 years for your album to be completed, but still an excellent choice.


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm

hm.. YEAH you're right about that!
still, for me.. FIVE years (or 10) to absorb THEIR music knowledge..

whew!



1 plush summer you come to me ripe 2 ready
& bad through & through
with that deep mystical soul synergy pumpin' steady
between me & you
lovin' all the beautiful work we've done, cara mia
& it's barely July..
I'll see you tonight..
in ALL MY DREAMS..
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Reply #21 posted 06/15/05 12:45pm

GoldenGlove

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QUINCY JONES!
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Reply #22 posted 06/15/05 2:30pm

MsLegs

theAudience said:

Based on the responses, i'll clarify my needs for the producer.

All my material would be self-written and arranged so what I would need the "producer" for...
1) a set of emotionally unattached ears.
2) a potential collaborator to embellish my ideas.
(which is why I specified a seasoned musician with a Jazz background)

Otherwise i'd be fighting THE MAN (record company) for creative control.

hmmm Sounds familiar


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


nod Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. You need somebody to help you with the brainstorming process and lend an ear.
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Reply #23 posted 06/15/05 2:33pm

minneapolisgen
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mltijchr said:

ah, okay..

if I were a young artist working on my 1st album,
I would want to have none other than

DONALD FAGEN & WALTER BECKER

to produce my album. their AMAZING knowledge of music, their music proficiency, their songwriting ability & their METICULOUS.. attention to detail
would ensure that not only would my album have the influence of 2 very good musicians..
but think of all that I would LEARN from working with them!

Me too. nod
"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
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Reply #24 posted 06/15/05 2:35pm

lilgish

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MsLegs said:



nod Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. You need somebody to help you with the brainstorming process and lend an ear.


Not me
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Reply #25 posted 06/15/05 2:37pm

MsLegs

lilgish said:

MsLegs said:



nod Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. You need somebody to help you with the brainstorming process and lend an ear.


Not me

rolleyes Whatever. Good for you and let me give you a cookie for effort.
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Reply #26 posted 06/15/05 2:44pm

dreamfactory31
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Quincy Jones
Pharrell Williams
Chad Hugo
JayDee (formerly of Slum Village)
Waajeed
William Orbit
Kedar Massenburg
Prince
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Reply #27 posted 06/15/05 2:48pm

AnckSuNamun

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If I had to choose.... my dream team. Most of the artists I like are producers themselves so...

Kate Bush
Cocteau Twins
Bjork
Graham Massey
Tricky
Lee Perry
Mark Bell
Dave Stewart
Adrian Utley
Massive Attack
rose looking for you in the woods tonight rose Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke)
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Reply #28 posted 06/15/05 3:48pm

roddiekay

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Jason Kay
Jem
Van Hunt
Pharrell,Chad Hugo,shea[basically all of the neptunes]
Prince

Guess I can't remember the rest..
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