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Reply #60 posted 06/10/05 6:26am

jayaredee

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Songs that should definitely be considered for the tour:


***"This Used To Be My Playground"---such a sad,tearjerker of a song.I don't think Maddy has ever performed it live.It could be performed in a medley with "Take A Bow"


I agree, this is one of her best written songs. I am totally suprised she never did it live, it's brilliant. A forgotten #1.

***"Causing A Commotion"---a fun,lively song.I'd rather hear this song instead of something predictable like "Hoilday" or "Music".


Yes i like this one as well. But she only did Music twice, so it's not as predictable as Holiday


***"Oh Father"---another emotion song that works well in a live setting


Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.

***"X-Static Process"---I was kinda disappointed that this song didn't make the 'Re-Invention' setlist.It's a gorgeous little number.I can imagine her sittting down,playing acoustic guitar for this one.


Yes! American Life sprung off many great ballads, which is why she's probably sticking to a whole dance record this time.

***"Everybody"---I'd rather hear this instead of the tired "Holiday".


You're really hateful towards Holiday mad

***"Sooner Or Later"---one of the highlights of the 'Re-Invention' tour was the jazzy,lonnge-style rendition of "Deeper and Deeper".Why not expand that segment? This song would be perfect.


True, she did Hanky Panky though, and i love that song.

***"Don't Cry For Me Argentina"---an 'Evita' segment would be cool.Either this song or "You Must Be Love" could be used.


Give me You Must Love Me. Her best vocal performance during RIT was Lament, so i agree to having another Evita number.
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Reply #61 posted 06/10/05 6:30am

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it'll be interesting to see what the focus of the next tour will be.Will it be a bold,challenging show (like DWT) that focuses mainly on her last three or four albums? Or will it be more of a greatest hits show?
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Reply #62 posted 06/10/05 6:33am

jayaredee

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it'll be interesting to see what the focus of the next tour will be.Will it be a bold,challenging show (like DWT) that focuses mainly on her last three or four albums? Or will it be more of a greatest hits show?


Well the reason DWT focused on those 3 albums, is because she hadn't toured with them during the actual periods they were released.

She will most likely choose 5 or 6 songs from the new album and add a bunch of hits to sandwich it out.
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Reply #63 posted 06/10/05 6:35am

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jayaredee said:

DavidEye said:

it'll be interesting to see what the focus of the next tour will be.Will it be a bold,challenging show (like DWT) that focuses mainly on her last three or four albums? Or will it be more of a greatest hits show?


Well the reason DWT focused on those 3 albums, is because she hadn't toured with them during the actual periods they were released.

She will most likely choose 5 or 6 songs from the new album and add a bunch of hits to sandwich it out.



and that will be fine with me.But I hope she chooses hits that we didn't hear the last time around.How cool would it be if she opens the show with a hard rock version of "Dress You Up"?
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Reply #64 posted 06/10/05 6:38am

jayaredee

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jayaredee said:



Well the reason DWT focused on those 3 albums, is because she hadn't toured with them during the actual periods they were released.

She will most likely choose 5 or 6 songs from the new album and add a bunch of hits to sandwich it out.



and that will be fine with me.But I hope she chooses hits that we didn't hear the last time around.How cool would it be if she opens the show with a hard rock version of "Dress You Up"?


honestly, i wish she stuck it out with dress you up instead of Material Girl because i like it better.

I think the opening of the RIT was brilliant with the Beast Within video moving into Vogue. Probably her most exciting opening yet.
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Reply #65 posted 06/10/05 6:44am

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jayaredee said:

DavidEye said:




and that will be fine with me.But I hope she chooses hits that we didn't hear the last time around.How cool would it be if she opens the show with a hard rock version of "Dress You Up"?


honestly, i wish she stuck it out with dress you up instead of Material Girl because i like it better.

I think the opening of the RIT was brilliant with the Beast Within video moving into Vogue. Probably her most exciting opening yet.



the opening to RIT was effectively creepy and provocative.I loved it lol
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Reply #66 posted 06/10/05 7:18am

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jayaredee said:



honestly, i wish she stuck it out with dress you up instead of Material Girl because i like it better.

I think the opening of the RIT was brilliant with the Beast Within video moving into Vogue. Probably her most exciting opening yet.



the opening to RIT was effectively creepy and provocative.I loved it lol


It was an excellent opener. The bit where she says the passage "Then, I saw a new heaven and a new earth And I heard a great voice from the throne saying:
"Behold the dwelling of God is with men He will dwell with them, and they shall be his people And God himself will be with them He will wipe away every tear from their eyes And death shall be no more
Neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore
For these things will have passed away" - I found this really moving, particularly with those beautiful dramatic synth strings in the background. I hope a re-invention mix of this song surfaces.

She wont better this opener IMO. Those amazing Steven Klein images, and the anticipation it created and then the "behold - I am coming soon" bit, it was all so ridiculously over the top, i loved it.
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Reply #67 posted 06/10/05 9:33am

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did anyone else watch Madge on The View?


she was there to talk about her new childrens book....the woman was nervous when she was asked the "hot topic" subject....you can tell she isnt used to speaking publically about non-madonna related subjects.....


I must have missed it. Was she there the whole time. Was she just pumping that book and mentioned the album?
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Reply #68 posted 06/10/05 11:38am

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double post
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Reply #69 posted 06/10/05 11:47am

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[/quote]Yes! American Life sprung off many great ballads, which is why she's probably sticking to a whole dance record this time

PARENTAL GUIDANCE: Holding at No. 9, "Mother and Father" (Maverick) is Madonna's seventh top 10 hit from her "American Life" album on Billboard's Hot Dance Club Play tally. She is the first artist in the history of this chart to pull seven top 10 hits from one album.


nice to see that this project is still having some success
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Reply #70 posted 06/10/05 12:41pm

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Yes! American Life sprung off many great ballads, which is why she's probably sticking to a whole dance record this time

PARENTAL GUIDANCE: Holding at No. 9, "Mother and Father" (Maverick) is Madonna's seventh top 10 hit from her "American Life" album on Billboard's Hot Dance Club Play tally. She is the first artist in the history of this chart to pull seven top 10 hits from one album.


nice to see that this project is still having some success
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Was this released as a single or something? Are there remixes?
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Reply #71 posted 06/10/05 12:56pm

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April 15, 2005
Rauhofer Remix Of Madonna's 'Mother and Father' Released To Clubs


Splashed across the Madonna web world this week, apparently Warner Bros. has decided to release the Peter Rauhofer remix of Mother and Father reported on here last month. Dance club DJ's will receive the new mix, but it is uncertain whether there will be a commercial release. In the meantime, take a look at the new Madonna profile at our parent site.
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Reply #72 posted 06/10/05 1:01pm

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March 23, 2005
Remixes and Mash-Ups of Madonna

The latest buzz in releases of Madonna's music is the new remix by Peter Rauhofer of Mother and Father, a track from Madonna's latest American Life album. The new mix is only available on Rauhofer's Live at the Roxy Voume 4 which can be ordered in the list at left. It's a revved up mix in Rauhofer's inimitable downtown Manhattan style.

Like any other major artist Madonna is the subject of a wide variety of mash-up mixes - blending her music with that of another, often unrelated, artist. One of the best of recent Madonna mash-ups, as highlighted on Arjan Writes, is a blending of Madonna's Music with the Hives' Hate To Say I Told You So. Possibly the best-known Madonna mash-up is the work of Mark Vidler of Go Home Productions. He put together a mash-up of Madonna's Ray Of Light with the Sex Pistols' Pretty Vacant and titled it Ray Of Gob.
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Reply #73 posted 06/10/05 1:04pm

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March 23, 2005
Remixes and Mash-Ups of Madonna

The latest buzz in releases of Madonna's music is the new remix by Peter Rauhofer of Mother and Father, a track from Madonna's latest American Life album. The new mix is only available on Rauhofer's Live at the Roxy Voume 4 which can be ordered in the list at left. It's a revved up mix in Rauhofer's inimitable downtown Manhattan style.

Do you have this? Is it cool?
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Reply #74 posted 06/10/05 1:06pm

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DavidEye said:

Songs that should definitely be considered for the tour:


***"This Used To Be My Playground"---such a sad,tearjerker of a song.I don't think Maddy has ever performed it live.It could be performed in a medley with "Take A Bow".

***"Causing A Commotion"---a fun,lively song.I'd rather hear this song instead of something predictable like "Hoilday" or "Music".


***"Oh Father"---another emotion song that works well in a live setting

***"X-Static Process"---I was kinda disappointed that this song didn't make the 'Re-Invention' setlist.It's a gorgeous little number.I can imagine her sittting down,playing acoustic guitar for this one.

***"Everybody"---I'd rather hear this instead of the tired "Holiday".

***"Sooner Or Later"---one of the highlights of the 'Re-Invention' tour was the jazzy,lonnge-style rendition of "Deeper and Deeper".Why not expand that segment? This song would be perfect.

***"Don't Cry For Me Argentina"---an 'Evita' segment would be cool.Either this song or "You Must Be Love" could be used.


as tried as it may seem... No Tour is complete without Holiday. Madge seems to really enjoy performing this song. I know part of her joy is she considers the song a joke since she never takes a break.

Madge has stated she will stay away from any song that would give people the impression she is calling it quits. No Take A Bow, This Used to be My Playgroud, Power of Goodbye.

I would love to hear You'll See or Look of Love and defintly Live to Tell.

however i'd perfer this show to be mostly an Upbeat show with lots of dancing, and more of the Headset. I wet my pants when i saw the first pics of her wearing the headset mic.
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Reply #75 posted 06/10/05 1:17pm

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RockAbilly said:

Possibly the best-known Madonna mash-up is the work of Mark Vidler of Go Home Productions. He put together a mash-up of Madonna's Ray Of Light with the Sex Pistols' Pretty Vacant and titled it Ray Of Gob.


eek Can somebody please tell me where I can hear this? I've got to hear this. please please please
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Reply #76 posted 06/10/05 1:26pm

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GangstaFam said:

RockAbilly said:

March 23, 2005
Remixes and Mash-Ups of Madonna

The latest buzz in releases of Madonna's music is the new remix by Peter Rauhofer of Mother and Father, a track from Madonna's latest American Life album. The new mix is only available on Rauhofer's Live at the Roxy Voume 4 which can be ordered in the list at left. It's a revved up mix in Rauhofer's inimitable downtown Manhattan style.

Do you have this? Is it cool?



it's Classic Rauhofer. i like it
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Reply #77 posted 06/10/05 4:38pm

GangstaFam

ehuffnsd said:

it's Classic Rauhofer. i like it

Where'd ya get it?
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Reply #78 posted 06/10/05 4:42pm

jayaredee

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ehuffnsd said:

it's Classic Rauhofer. i like it

Where'd ya get it?


gimme 5 minutes, it'll be in your orgnotes wink
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Reply #79 posted 06/10/05 4:44pm

GangstaFam

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gimme 5 minutes, it'll be in your orgnotes wink

yay!
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Reply #80 posted 06/10/05 6:10pm

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RockAbilly said:

Yes! American Life sprung off many great ballads, which is why she's probably sticking to a whole dance record this time

PARENTAL GUIDANCE: Holding at No. 9, "Mother and Father" (Maverick) is Madonna's seventh top 10 hit from her "American Life" album on Billboard's Hot Dance Club Play tally. She is the first artist in the history of this chart to pull seven top 10 hits from one album.


nice to see that this project is still having some success
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Having all those dance hits really happened very quietly, didn't it. Seven? Really?

Die Another Day
American Life
Hollywood
Nobody Knows Me
Nothing Fails
Love Profusion
Mother And Father

Shame that most of the songs didn't get enough love from the pop charts, especially "Nothing Fails" (time will tell with M&F but I think even with a maxi it's strictly for the clubs).
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Reply #81 posted 06/10/05 6:13pm

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VinnyM27 said:

RockAbilly said:

Yes! American Life sprung off many great ballads, which is why she's probably sticking to a whole dance record this time

PARENTAL GUIDANCE: Holding at No. 9, "Mother and Father" (Maverick) is Madonna's seventh top 10 hit from her "American Life" album on Billboard's Hot Dance Club Play tally. She is the first artist in the history of this chart to pull seven top 10 hits from one album.


nice to see that this project is still having some success
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Having all those dance hits really happened very quietly, didn't it. Seven? Really?

Die Another Day
American Life
Hollywood
Nobody Knows Me
Nothing Fails
Love Profusion
Mother And Father

Shame that most of the songs didn't get enough love from the pop charts, especially "Nothing Fails" (time will tell with M&F but I think even with a maxi it's strictly for the clubs).[/quote]



its just Madge getting in touch with her roots... the gay community and clubs.

remember her first singles... Everybody, Buring Up/Physical Attraction and the first time Lucky Star was released were just popular on the dance charts.
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Reply #82 posted 06/10/05 6:54pm

jayaredee

Probably by next album release, she will break Elvis' dance chart record. And it will never be topped again
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Reply #83 posted 06/10/05 9:16pm

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jayaredee said:

Probably by next album release, she will break Elvis' dance chart record. And it will never be topped again



Hold on....Elvis dance chart record?

I never knew any of those singles came out when the dance chart did? I'm pretty sure Madonna has a lock on most charting dance singles, with Janet behind (by a dozen or better) singles. Madonna rules the dance charts. Maybe you're talking about the pop charts, where she didn't do well with this album at all.
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Reply #84 posted 06/10/05 9:18pm

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ehuffnsd said:

VinnyM27 said:




Having all those dance hits really happened very quietly, didn't it. Seven? Really?

Die Another Day
American Life
Hollywood
Nobody Knows Me
Nothing Fails
Love Profusion
Mother And Father

Shame that most of the songs didn't get enough love from the pop charts, especially "Nothing Fails" (time will tell with M&F but I think even with a maxi it's strictly for the clubs).




its just Madge getting in touch with her roots... the gay community and clubs.

remember her first singles... Everybody, Buring Up/Physical Attraction and the first time Lucky Star was released were just popular on the dance charts.


I love Madonna so this isn't a critcizism, but I don't think those singles where intially just aimed at the dance charts (although I'm thinking "Mother And Father" is definately just about getting back into the clubs maybe just right before her new single...).
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Reply #85 posted 06/10/05 10:44pm

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VinnyM27 said:

ehuffnsd said:





its just Madge getting in touch with her roots... the gay community and clubs.

remember her first singles... Everybody, Buring Up/Physical Attraction and the first time Lucky Star was released were just popular on the dance charts.


I love Madonna so this isn't a critcizism, but I don't think those singles where intially just aimed at the dance charts (although I'm thinking "Mother And Father" is definately just about getting back into the clubs maybe just right before her new single...).



in the US, all but the first 3 listed were aimed squarely at the clubs, almost primarily if you look at the tracklists of the maxis that were released. none of the album or single versions of Nobody Knows Me, Nothing Fails or Love Profusion are to be found on the released product. Mother And Father was definitely only intended for clubs. it was going to go unreleased after the remix album was scrapped, and was only rushed out to clubs at the last minute when it came to attention via the Rauhofer project.
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Reply #86 posted 06/10/05 10:56pm

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GrayKing said:

VinnyM27 said:



I love Madonna so this isn't a critcizism, but I don't think those singles where intially just aimed at the dance charts (although I'm thinking "Mother And Father" is definately just about getting back into the clubs maybe just right before her new single...).



in the US, all but the first 3 listed were aimed squarely at the clubs, almost primarily if you look at the tracklists of the maxis that were released. none of the album or single versions of Nobody Knows Me, Nothing Fails or Love Profusion are to be found on the released product. Mother And Father was definitely only intended for clubs. it was going to go unreleased after the remix album was scrapped, and was only rushed out to clubs at the last minute when it came to attention via the Rauhofer project.


You're right. Too bad she/Warners never tried to push the tradtional "Nothing Fails" since I think it was a classic and would have even been a radio hit. "Love Profusion", however, did have a pop video and maybe, just maybe they thought there was a chance radio would pick it up and people would actually buy the CD.

I'm not sure if "Mother And Father", in any form, will start selling on the digital singles chart, but I think when Madonna releases her new single, she will be helped a lot by sales of an online single. There seem to be a whole lot of white girls in the top ten (granted, Mariah is not just white and Gwen's single is even getting play on full on R&B stations).
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Reply #87 posted 06/11/05 11:02am

jayaredee

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jayaredee said:

Probably by next album release, she will break Elvis' dance chart record. And it will never be topped again



Hold on....Elvis dance chart record?

I never knew any of those singles came out when the dance chart did? I'm pretty sure Madonna has a lock on most charting dance singles, with Janet behind (by a dozen or better) singles. Madonna rules the dance charts. Maybe you're talking about the pop charts, where she didn't do well with this album at all.


Yep, Elvis holds the top dance chart record with 35 #1s if i'm not mistaken.
Madonna has 33
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Reply #88 posted 06/11/05 12:27pm

GangstaFam

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GangstaFam said:


Where'd ya get it?


gimme 5 minutes, it'll be in your orgnotes wink

Hey, thanks for the hookup! I like it. And I'm not usually a fan of that kinda remix. It's good. biggrin
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Reply #89 posted 06/11/05 1:59pm

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Madonna is the most successful dance artist in music history; she has 33 #1 singles on Billboard's Hot Dance/Club Play Singles Chart, more than twice the number of her nearest rival Janet Jackson. Madonna also has 25 #1 singles on Billboard's Hot Dance Single Sales Chart, more than three times the number of her nearest rivals Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Prince, and Notorious B.I.G.

as far as Elvis.....

recorded 104 singles that hit the Top 40 of the Billboard pop chart.

had 38 Top 10 Billboard hits. This total is currently unchallenged; the closest competitor, Madonna, has 35. (The Beatles had 34 Top 10 hits during their career.)

From 1956 to 1962 Elvis set the record with 24 consecutive top 5 hit singles
Since 1962, the closest anyone has come to matching this was Madonna in the late 1980s and early 1990s, with 19 consecutive top 5 hits.

Madonna has 6 No. 2 singles on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles Chart, the most for a female artist, tying her with Elvis Presley for the record.
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