PEJ said:

*singing & clapping like Conan O' Brian* "You're gonna go to hell when you die, you're gonna go to hell when you die."
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I prefer thriller mike..he was so fine.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

I'm saying. That even though i don't have the all too typical huge nigga nose and nappy ass nigga hair that i don't consider myself above or below having those features and allowing them to determine whether i considered myself ugly or not just because of those features.

lilgish said:

thats not mj.

i am beautiful gay black man with a wide nose and beautiful african features...


but *this* is not attractive to me at all...sowwy folks. african looking people can be ugly too...doesnt have to be a conspiracy...there are ugly european looking people too...




now, mj as a kid...he was cute. even those teen pics are hot..but maybe its the pimples or something.....i think the first nose job did him good.

sosgemini said:

Agreed. Anything after that was unnecessary, although I'd have liked him to have stopped at least before the "Dangerous" era, because what if he really did have a skin disorder? "Thriller" features would not have matched.

sosgemini said:

Mike without surgery is the best because it's the REAL Mike...

People used to critize his nose all the time, this why he hzte himself so much...
HIs is nose is big but NORMAL
You talk like having a big nose is bad...


It's bullshit...

If Mike was educated to accept himself, he would never be the scary guy that we know now...


Plus I think he doesn't look gay either in this pic....


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It's not bad having a big nose. I just think he looked good after those two nose surguries. That's my opinion. Obessive Plastic Surgery is like an eating disorder. I remember watching Oprah one day and they had a girl on there who was 26 and already had 28 plastic surgeries. She was very pretty before she had the surgery. She wanted the surgery in the first place because her ex-husband had told her she had a big nose, then after that, everything went out of control. It starts with that one comment, with this lady, it was her husband's comment and with Michael, it was his dad and brothers comments. It's like seeing urself in the mirror and u see fat while everyone else sees skinny. Michael probably looked in the mirror and still thought that his nose was big even though it was fine.

sosgemini said:

he shoulda stopped after the 1st surgery cuz it don't matter if your gay str8
or what eva this ain't attractive at all!





and to stay on topic at this point mj would look like a goober in rows.... remember prince's attempt?

B2O2O2T2Y said:

uhh could u please not say nigga nose and nigga hair? its just a nose and just hair nothing "nigga" about it....


back on topic..there actually IS a pic of mike w/ conrows (photoshopped of course) its from around the history era i think...i'll post it later if i can find it

"acne problems" or not,

Michael Jackson looked good as a man
with
his "nigga nose"
&
"nigga lips"

he looked good up until about.. 1985, I would estimate.


as for the word itself or experessions with "nigga" or "nigger"..
that word has NEVER bothered me or made me cry or made me want to start a fight with whoever the IGNORANT (&/or just plain mean) caucasian person who said it.

the word "nigger" doesn't own me - if anything, I own it. by using it.


there's a BRILLIANT comedian that most of you probably don't know- likely because he is often considered too "radical" or too "hard-core" for "mainstream audiences" because of his upfront - but mostly true - perspectives on life in general & on "race relations" in particular. he wrote for Richard Pryor, he wrote for the show "Sanford & Son", he also wrote "Homey the Clown" on the show "In Living Color".. so he knows what's funny.

his name is Mr. Paul Mooney.

here is a line from his cd "Race":

"nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga.
I say 'nigga' a hundred times a day - it makes my teeth white.
I say it, white people think it - what a small white world.
white people made up the word 'nigga', but don't want me to say it?
ain't that a bitch! white people, you fucked up - you shouldn't have made up the word!"

a comment he made referring to Michael Jackson
(I forget if it was on "Race" or on "Masterpiece"):
"keep ALL your nigga shit - your nigga hair, your nigga nose, your nigga lips - that shit is BEAUTIFUL.."

"when Michael dies & goes to heaven, God is not gonna recognize him; God will say 'Saint Peter, who is this pale nigga with a thin nose & no lips?? I didn't make him..' "


1 of my favorite episodes of "Sanford & Son" is the 1 where Fred decideds to represent himself in court for a traffic violation or something.. he looks around the courtroom & says
"there's enough niggas in here to make a Tarzan movie!"
TOO FUNNY.

so that word doesn't own me. Paul Mooney got over it, I already had too, before I knew who Paul was & listeneing to him confirmed what I already knew.


to (finally) answer the thread question..
the way he looks NOW, I would not want to imagine Michael with cornrows..
(! ! ! ! !)
but back in the day - 1984 & before, when he had nice, natural, beautiful "negroid features" - the cornrows probably would have looked good on him. they weren't that common back then, so he would have probably stood out for that too, along with the good music he used to make on a much more consistent level..

I can't believe black people who use a word that is a racial slur. Us white people don't use the word cracka. How is that word uplifting? I hate that word. It is reversing black people's progress on elimating the racism against them in the world.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

like I said, "nigga" is a word - essentially, a word like EVERY OTHER WORD in the world that exists.

I have the choice to
1) be "offended & outraged" when I hear that word, or faint when I hear that word or be "paralyzed" for some indefinite period of time..

or

2) I can let that word pass from 1 ear right through the other, & maybe (depending on the person) show 1 moment of pity for the person who said it..
& then GET ON WITH MY LIFE.


the word "nigga/nigger" is a "slur" because it was made to be that way.. by the slaveowners who of course "owned" slaves back in the day. just as much as a word can be "made" to have a negative connotation to it, that same word- with time & effort- can be made to have (at least) LESS of a negative connotation. if those affected by it want to make that change. this is probably - in part - while you hear brothas often refer to themselves & call each other "nigga" - it IS a way to "reclaim" the word & use it in a way that is not meant to be offensive. you may be familiar with the expression "yeah, that's my nigga" meaning, "yeah, that's a good friend of mine"..
used in THAT context, the person hearing that would not be offended.


as for "Us white people don't use the word cracka."..
IF "cracka" is seen as being a negative term, why would a caucasian person use this word to describe himself? from what I've seen, caucasians generally have a "positive perception" of themselves, which of course has been re-inforced -overtly & covertly - throughout the history of the US.


"racism against black people" has ALWAYS existed in the world. this being true, & the "derogatory use" of the word "nigga" being a part of that racism, which do you think is worse, which do you think "reverses more" this "progress of eliminating" this type of racism :

A) hearing the word nigga & getting offended & distracted to the point of no longer functioning

B) hearing the word nigga, shaking your head for a MOMENT towards the person who said it, then getting on with life.


I acknowledge that you "hate" the word nigga,
I'm a little surprised that you can't believe that the "intended recipients" use this word..
but regardless of how much you hate the word & regardless of what you can or cannot believe, this word "nigga" is here & it's not going anywhere, regardless of anyone's intentions- good or bad. so as this word will always be here, it might as well be either DOWNPLAYED as much as possible or "re-used" in a way that is.. "less" offensive.


"racism against black people" has ALWAYS existed in the world. it always has & it always will be here.. so we all may as well get on with life & live it the best we can.

Mike talks about his hair in studio

http://s30.yousendit.com/...CF2BEMTXZ

sosgemini said:

sure it is. the pic is squashed so looks a bit funny.

Has strong feelings Michael Jackson will end up in jail (and wille be slapped and raped analy numerous of times for that, and commit suicide quickly)

When Michael escapes jail (thanks to smart, expensive advocates) he will probably go to the Las Vegas circuit, and burn out graduately.....

Sad, but true....

lilgish said:

It's called a wet afro. Obviously Mike had been swimming and he got out. How do u expect his hair to look or any brother with an afro to look when it gets wet?

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Thank you. What, exactly, is a "nigga nose and nigga hair"? That's some slave owning, plantation having talk right there. Seriously.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Oh, and from my earlier post, I just figured that you yourself was black. But now that I realize that you're not, how in the fuck are you going to come in here with any of this nigga shit? Do u know where the fuck u are? You're on a site about a black man. And your posting on a thread about a black man. To whoever first mentioned Paul Mooney, yeah, I know who Paul Mooney is. A lot of folks on here know who Paul Mooney is. So the fuck what? That doesn't have anything to do with the price of tea in China. U are waaaaay out of bounds coming in here, on this site, with this "nigga" shit. U better find u a Klansman site for all that. Seriously.

blackguitaristz said:

HE TOOK A CHUNK OUT OF YOUR ASS! YOU BETTA RECOGNIZE, bootyLESScious

blackguitaristz said:

Thank you BG for thier ass. I had a feeling something was up. It's that ignorant racist motherfuckers get checked on the org.

BLACK!!!!

So u think I'm racist because I don't like that black people use that n word. I'm sorry but a lot of white people have the same view on that word as I do. Even some of my black friends. How am I out of bounds on this? Tell me because obviously I don't know.



Umm, Excuse me?! I am really getting sick of ur attitude. Just because I don't like that word and don't agree with me DOESN"T make me racist. Maybe ur the one who's the ignorant racist motherfucker who thinks that every white person is racist!!!!!

MsLegs said:

funkpill said:

"The Revolution Will Not Be Televised."

MsLegs said:

And it won't be no rerun either...
It'll be live!!!
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I thought we were talking about Michael Jackson with cornrows and then the subject got changed to this. Look I'm sorry if I offended anyone but that is my opinion. A lot of my white friends and people I've talked about this and some of my black friends that I have talked have agreed with me or said that they didn't like the word. I am really offended though by Mslegs and blackguartist calling me racist. You do not know me at all. I am not racist. I have a lot of black friends and white. I am also interested in a guy who is black. Please stop putting stereotypes on white people. Yes, some white people have ridden of black people for their music but it doesn't mean u hav to blame an entire race for it. The entire race didn't do it, but some people from that race did do it.

funkpill said:

So, what are u saying? That I can't come on a website forum which an artist that I am a fan of because I am white and that hes black and Im not so I can't post bout him? Why u tryin to intimidate me?