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Thread started 04/26/05 12:32am

MattyJam

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"Artists" you can't believe haven't been dropped by their label yet.

Why is Daniel Beddingfield still being allowed to release music?

It was a crime when he was in the first place, but now no-one's buying it, why hasn't he been dropped?

I don't usually harbour ill-feeling towards famous people but I think we can make an exception on this guy.
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Reply #1 posted 04/26/05 1:38am

CinisterCee

Michael Jackson
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Reply #2 posted 04/26/05 1:52am

hellomoto

CinisterCee said:

Michael Jackson

i thought he already had been after the ultimate collection
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Reply #3 posted 04/26/05 2:29am

CinisterCee

hellomoto said:

CinisterCee said:

Michael Jackson

i thought he already had been after the ultimate collection


can someone confirm this?
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Reply #4 posted 04/26/05 2:29am

twink69

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hellomoto said:

CinisterCee said:

Michael Jackson

i thought he already had been after the ultimate collection


Why would any label drop Michael Jackson? all his records sell millions.
and Daniel Bendingfield had a really succesfull first album. His labl will drop him if his third album tanks.

I was really suprised how long Maverick kept Meshell on their label. She is one of my favourite artists ever but her album didn't sell but Maverick kept releasing her music.. I wish more labels were as concern with building an artists career, as result Maverick has one of the best backcatolgues in Meshell.
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Reply #5 posted 04/26/05 2:30am

CinisterCee

twink69 said:

hellomoto said:


i thought he already had been after the ultimate collection


Why would any label drop Michael Jackson? all his records sell millions.
and Daniel Bendingfield had a really succesfull first album. His labl will drop him if his third album tanks.

I was really suprised how long Maverick kept Meshell on their label. She is one of my favourite artists ever but her album didn't sell but Maverick kept releasing her music.. I wish more labels were as concern with building an artists career, as result Maverick has one of the best backcatolgues in Meshell.


And Maverick didn't dump Alanis too quickly either
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Reply #6 posted 04/26/05 2:35am

Cloudbuster

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CinisterCee said:

hellomoto said:


i thought he already had been after the ultimate collection


can someone confirm this?


He hasn't been dropped. His contract was fulfilled.
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Reply #7 posted 04/26/05 2:35am

twink69

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CinisterCee said:

twink69 said:



Why would any label drop Michael Jackson? all his records sell millions.
and Daniel Bendingfield had a really succesfull first album. His labl will drop him if his third album tanks.

I was really suprised how long Maverick kept Meshell on their label. She is one of my favourite artists ever but her album didn't sell but Maverick kept releasing her music.. I wish more labels were as concern with building an artists career, as result Maverick has one of the best backcatolgues in Meshell.


And Maverick didn't dump Alanis too quickly either

Because she still sells, not as much as before but she still sells.
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Reply #8 posted 04/26/05 2:36am

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The MJ thing is intersting. I have no idea if he owes sony any more recordings. I read in a book published a few years ago saying mike still owed them a greatest hits and then a box set. This book was written years ago and so far that is all true. So I think he is free to go.

Someone as shrewd as jacko should be dropping an album during the trial. Iam surprised he didn't use this advantage.
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Reply #9 posted 04/26/05 2:42am

CinisterCee

I actually can't think of anyone who isn't selling that is still on a label. Seems like alot of people were dropped during the label mergers and the major label rosters are already really small.
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Reply #10 posted 04/26/05 2:46am

thesexofit

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CinisterCee said:

I actually can't think of anyone who isn't selling that is still on a label. Seems like alot of people were dropped during the label mergers and the major label rosters are already really small.



What was the mariah thing again? She got paid to leave EMI? Then what do emi do (about the last major independant left), they go and blow obscene amounts on boy (band) wonder robbie williams? confused
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Reply #11 posted 04/26/05 2:57am

hellomoto

Cloudbuster said:

CinisterCee said:



can someone confirm this?


He hasn't been dropped. His contract was fulfilled.

oh yes that is what i was thinking of, his contract being fulfilled, not dropped. sorry
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Reply #12 posted 04/26/05 3:04am

Raine

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thesexofit said:

they go and blow obscene amounts on boy (band) wonder robbie williams?

he got £ 80 million disbelief he is no way worth that guy chambers wrote all his hit songs mad
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Reply #13 posted 04/26/05 3:06am

CinisterCee

the north american Robbie Williams deal was obscene for sure
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Reply #14 posted 04/26/05 3:09am

thesexofit

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Raine said:

thesexofit said:

they go and blow obscene amounts on boy (band) wonder robbie williams?

he got £ 80 million disbelief he is no way worth that guy chambers wrote all his hit songs mad



80! Oh yeah I forgot it was that much. Michaels mega deal wasn't that much more. And mike always had the worldwide sales then. I bet robbie didn't even ask for that much, knowing his cheeky self.

Yeah, robbies recent stuff has been piss poor power ballads.
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Reply #15 posted 04/26/05 4:49am

twink69

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CinisterCee said:

the north american Robbie Williams deal was obscene for sure

The robbie Williams deal was for 4 albums, 1 greates hits and 3 world tours, EMI are making there money off Robbie's tours, They are prodcuing and taking a huge profit of his tours.
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Reply #16 posted 04/26/05 5:11am

CinisterCee

twink69 said:

CinisterCee said:

the north american Robbie Williams deal was obscene for sure

The robbie Williams deal was for 4 albums, 1 greates hits and 3 world tours, EMI are making there money off Robbie's tours, They are prodcuing and taking a huge profit of his tours.


4 new albums, so this would take us well through the decade.
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Reply #17 posted 04/26/05 7:48am

Novabreaker

Holly Valance
Ja Rule
M.A. Numminen
Roxette
George Lucas
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Reply #18 posted 04/26/05 7:53am

minneapolisgen
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Novabreaker said:

Holly Valance
Ja Rule
M.A. Numminen
Roxette
George Lucas

Roxette's still around?

ill
"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
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Reply #19 posted 04/26/05 7:59am

Novabreaker

minneapolisgenius said:


Roxette's still around?
ill


It's like herpes. It never really goes away, and always appears at the most unfitting times.
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Reply #20 posted 04/26/05 8:11am

Cloudbuster

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Kate Bush.
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Reply #21 posted 04/26/05 8:35am

VinnyM27

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Reply #22 posted 04/26/05 8:35am

Cloudbuster

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What Vinny said.
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Reply #23 posted 04/26/05 8:41am

VinnyM27

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Why....! Khan!!!!!


What I did say the first time was that why is it a big deal that Beddingfield is still releasing music in Europe...didn't the first album sell well there?

Stevie Wonder should drop himself. I wrote this great post and it's gone but let me try to remember what I said.

Stevie, Motown has been great to you in the sixities(?), seventies and possibly, just possibly eighties (although was it your idea to release "Upset Stomach" on "Berry Gordon's Last Dragon"...not a bad track, but come on!). It's time to move on, with the new album in hand to a company that will release it and do a good promotional job. All they've been doing for the past so many years is releasing your material in different discs (a boxed set, then a double disc, than a single disc collection and just to narrow it down a little more...a "20th Century" set). Dare I say because he can't actually see that he is prehaps blind to this? I think artists like Cher see it, but turn a blind eye and realize it's money in the bank. Wonder what Stevie thinks?
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Reply #24 posted 04/26/05 8:43am

VinnyM27

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twink69 said:

CinisterCee said:

the north american Robbie Williams deal was obscene for sure

The robbie Williams deal was for 4 albums, 1 greates hits and 3 world tours, EMI are making there money off Robbie's tours, They are prodcuing and taking a huge profit of his tours.



But making money off an artists tours is not common for labels, right? That's usually their money and in fact, I've noticed that they tend to sometimes release the actual videos on what appear to be indie companies (I know Janet's last two where on what seemed like a small company).
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Reply #25 posted 04/26/05 8:44am

minneapolisgen
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Novabreaker said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Roxette's still around?
ill


It's like herpes. It never really goes away, and always appears at the most unfitting times.

falloff
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Reply #26 posted 04/26/05 8:49am

VinnyM27

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CinisterCee said:

twink69 said:



Why would any label drop Michael Jackson? all his records sell millions.
and Daniel Bendingfield had a really succesfull first album. His labl will drop him if his third album tanks.

I was really suprised how long Maverick kept Meshell on their label. She is one of my favourite artists ever but her album didn't sell but Maverick kept releasing her music.. I wish more labels were as concern with building an artists career, as result Maverick has one of the best backcatolgues in Meshell.


And Maverick didn't dump Alanis too quickly either


To comment on Me'shell, I think they realize she isn't and may never be a bigger seller but the potenial for a hit is there and they realize she has a loyal audience which probably grows from word of mouth (hell, I'm becoming more and more interested). She's an artists that will continue to make albums that are accepted by critics and will sell not gangbusters but well enough.

With Alanis, I'm not sure? I think they figured "Supposed..." was just a sophmore slump but probably sold well. I have an idea the sales keep doing down for each disc...maybe as much as half for each? I doubt the last one sold...I bet that many people knew about it. Her third at least had a big memorable single..the last really didn't (she was, unfornately, competeing with the people she inspired like Avril). Alanis might not sell what she used to but the fact that she appears on soundtracks and releases in between projects ("Unplugged" and "Feast on Scraps") probaly doesn't hurt the cash flow. She still is probably their biggest (possibly only?) money maker.
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Reply #27 posted 04/26/05 9:10am

Xavier23

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Franz Ferdinand(why were they evn signed in the first place?)

BJORK

ALANIS MORISETTE

MICHAEL BOLTON(yes he had a new album out) neutral

BRYAN ADAMS

RICHARD MARX

NICK CARTER(OF BSB FAME)

AVRIL LAVIGNE
"Americans consume the most fast food than any nation on Earth and the stupid motherfuckers wonder why they are so fat? " - Oprah Winfrey
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Reply #28 posted 04/26/05 9:23am

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Xavier23 said:

Franz Ferdinand(why were they evn signed in the first place?)

BJORK

ALANIS MORISETTE

MICHAEL BOLTON(yes he had a new album out) neutral

BRYAN ADAMS

RICHARD MARX

NICK CARTER(OF BSB FAME)

AVRIL LAVIGNE


Avril Lavigne?

You're just angry....but I understand.

Richard Marx is on an indie (Capitol gave him a few more shots in the ninties, though but his last two where released on small labels), but shockingly, Bryan Adams isn't (his last CD came out a while ago in Europe and comes out here soon...but it's going to be released on Mercury Nashville?).

Nick Carter is probably dropped as a solo artist. I don't think they'll make that same mistake twice (and at this rate, I don't see that somewhat hyped Backstreet reunion coming out anytime soon..are they on tour?). They are giving JC another shot, which kind of makes sense because he had a lot of postive hype and the few people that bought the album really seemed to enjoy it.
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Reply #29 posted 04/26/05 9:25am

jayaredee

Avril Lavigne sells a lot of records believe it or not, so she wouldn't be dropped yet.
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