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Stevie Wonder, 1970-1980 -- greatest run by solo artist in pop music history??? I was thinking about this today. Consider his body of work during that time:
1970 Talk of the Town 1970 Signed, Sealed & Delivered 1971 Where I'm Coming From 1972 Music of My Mind 1972 Talking Book 1973 Innervisions 1974 Fulfillingness' First Finale 1976 Portrait 1976 Songs in the Key of Life 1979 Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants 1980 Hotter Than July This eclipses the output of most other artists over the period of any given decade-long stretch in terms of prolific output, critical acclaim and commercial success. Or does it? Anyone care to agree or disagree? Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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I concur. In fact other than the Beatles and maybe the stones, I think it's one of the best winning streaks in the history of pop music by any artist, solo or otherwise. | |
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Man, it looks even more impressive when it's all laid out like that.
Hard to argue your point, bro. Stevie was on fire during this period. | |
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what's portrait though ? was that just a greatest hits thing or a cancelled album or what? | |
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namepeace said: I was thinking about this today. Consider his body of work during that time:
1970 Talk of the Town 1970 Signed, Sealed & Delivered 1971 Where I'm Coming From 1972 Music of My Mind 1972 Talking Book 1973 Innervisions 1974 Fulfillingness' First Finale 1976 Portrait 1976 Songs in the Key of Life 1979 Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants 1980 Hotter Than July This eclipses the output of most other artists over the period of any given decade-long stretch in terms of prolific output, critical acclaim and commercial success. Or does it? Anyone care to agree or disagree? Yep of course it is, even if David Bowie was great too... | |
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oh pretty much, infact i'd say definately, daring, bold, experimental, eclectic. What more can you ask for of an artist?. 'July' was 1981 though, correct me if i'm wrong.
72-76. essential. Everybody who even vaguely likes music should own those albums, If you you make those your first experience of Stevie you'll soon realise that half the shit you'd normally have been listening to is just that. Shit. The man is a musical god. | |
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Marrk said: oh pretty much, infact i'd say definately, daring, bold, experimental, eclectic. What more can you ask for of an artist?. 'July' was 1981 though, correct me if i'm wrong.
72-76. essential. Everybody who even vaguely likes music should own those albums, If you you make those your first experience of Stevie you'll soon realise that half the shit you'd normally have been listening to is just that. Shit. The man is a musical god. Your word is as good as mine on July because I do not know for sure. And agreed on '72 to '76. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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krayzie said: namepeace said: I was thinking about this today. Consider his body of work during that time:
1970 Talk of the Town 1970 Signed, Sealed & Delivered 1971 Where I'm Coming From 1972 Music of My Mind 1972 Talking Book 1973 Innervisions 1974 Fulfillingness' First Finale 1976 Portrait 1976 Songs in the Key of Life 1979 Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants 1980 Hotter Than July This eclipses the output of most other artists over the period of any given decade-long stretch in terms of prolific output, critical acclaim and commercial success. Or does it? Anyone care to agree or disagree? Yep of course it is, even if David Bowie was great too... Bowie and Prince are both pretty close behind, but they're both more uneven and had more creative partners in the making of their prime material. Plus, depending on your tastes their voices can be grating, whereas' stevie's voice is pure soothing awesomeness | |
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jack and OM: I am not familiar with "Portrait." My thread was actually triggered by thinking about Talking Book, Innvervisions, Songs ITKOL, and FFF. When I checked the discography again I was impressed.
Prince's '79-'88 run is my personal favorite, but Steve does him a couple better in terms of sales and critical recognition. During '70-'80, if memory serves, he sold better and his albums were universally praised. Conversely, Prince's albums sold moderately well before and after PR, and reviews of several were mixed (Controversy, ATWIAD, Parade, and Lovesexy). Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Prince and David Bowie would have something to say about that. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: Prince and David Bowie would have something to say about that.
Indeed they do, but see above. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Acclaimed Music is a great website for determining the level of critical acclaim- both at the time of release and as albums age.
Here is the breakdown of all-time album and song ranks for the 3 artists in question: David Bowie: 1970 - 1980 Albums: 1970: The Man Who Sold the World: 1048 1971: Hunky Dory: 55 1972: Ziggy Stardust: 16 1973: Aladdin Sane: 402 1974: Diamond Dogs: 1279 1975: Young Americans: 756 1976: Station to Station: 224 1977: Low: 80 1977: "Heroes": 205 1980: Scary Monsters: 452 Songs: 1971: Changes: 152 1971: Life on Mars?: 473 1972: Starman: 493 1972: Ziggy Stardust: 156 1974: Rebel, Rebel: 1166 1975: Young Americans: 448 1975: Fame: 633 1976: Golden Years: 1078 1976: Wild Is the Wind: 870 1977: Sound and Vision: 1388 1977: Heroes: 57 1980: Ashes to Ashes: 747 1980: Fashion: 1895 Stevie Wonder: 1970-1980 Albums: 1971: Where I'm Coming From: 1999 1972: Music of My Mind: 671 1972: Talking Book: 94 1973: Innervisions: 33 1974: Fulfillingness' First Finale: 591 1976: Songs in the Key of Life: 43 1980: Hotter Than July: 1368 Songs: 1972: Superstition: 30 1972: You Are the Sunshine of My Life: 564 1973: Higher Ground: 721 1973: Living for the City: 312 1974: You Haven't Done Nothin': 1359 1980: Masterblaster (Jammin'): 1432 Prince: 1980-1990 Albums: 1980: Dirty Mind: 337 1982: 1999: 148 1984: Purple Rain: 45 1985: Around the World in a Day: 962 1986: Parade: 492 1987: Sign o' the Times: 19 1988: Lovesexy: 1284 1990: Graffiti Bridge: 1936 Songs: 1980: When You Were Mine: 1426 1981: Controversy: 1634 1982: 1999: 249 1982: Little Red Corvette: 80 1984: When Doves Cry: 41 1984: Let's Go Crazy: 1258 1984: Purple Rain: 430 1985: Raspberry Beret: 1378 1986: Kiss: 144 1987: Sign o' the Times: 129 1987: If I Was Your Girlfriend: 893 1987: U Got the Look: 1128 1987: I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man: 1775 1988: Alphabet St.: 954 Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: Prince and David Bowie would have something to say about that.
I don't know Stevie's work well enough to say, but based on what I've heard, he can't touch either Prince or Bowie. The Cure was pretty solid from '79 to '89 too. | |
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GangstaFam said: Moonbeam said: Prince and David Bowie would have something to say about that.
I don't know Stevie's work well enough to say, but based on what I've heard, he can't touch either Prince or Bowie. The Cure was pretty solid from '79 to '89 too. I mean this in the best way: once you get to know Stevie's work I think you will realize he belongs in the conversation, and probably outshines both on the factors I discussed. And this is coming from someone who regards Prince as his all-time favorite and Bowie as a legend. Stevie dominated the music scene for virtually the entire decade of the 1970's.[/ [Edited 4/21/05 14:47pm] Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Well, Prince is my fav artist ever obviously, but I agree that Stevie's run was pretty damn magnificent. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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Moonbeam said: Acclaimed Music is a great website for determining the level of critical acclaim- both at the time of release and as albums age.
Well, it's a comprehensive resource, and definitely great evidence to further the argument, but I still believe that when you look at all the factors, Stevie, over the course of a 10-year period, towers over virtually everyone else. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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GangstaFam said: Moonbeam said: Prince and David Bowie would have something to say about that.
I don't know Stevie's work well enough to say, but based on what I've heard, he can't touch either Prince or Bowie. . | |
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namepeace said: I was thinking about this today. Consider his body of work during that time:
1970 Talk of the Town 1970 Signed, Sealed & Delivered 1971 Where I'm Coming From 1972 Music of My Mind 1972 Talking Book 1973 Innervisions 1974 Fulfillingness' First Finale 1976 Portrait 1976 Songs in the Key of Life 1979 Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants 1980 Hotter Than July This eclipses the output of most other artists over the period of any given decade-long stretch in terms of prolific output, critical acclaim and commercial success. Or does it? Anyone care to agree or disagree? I posted something like this a while back. Stevie had an incredible creative streak during the 70's, especially '72-76. The man was untouchable, hitting his high peak with Innervisions(IMO). Aside from Prince, Bowie, Springsteen, U2, very few artists can match that. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: I posted something like this a while back. Stevie had an incredible creative streak during the 70's, especially '72-76. The man was untouchable, hitting his high peak with Innervisions(IMO). Aside from Prince, Bowie, Springsteen, U2, very few artists can match that. Nothing new under the org Sun! I KNEW this was familiar ground. And I agree 100% Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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I think Stevie's Greatest run was '72-'76. Journey Through The Secret Life of Plants is good but its nowhere near the level of the previous works and Hotter Than July is very spotty. I think Stevie's creative brilliance is shown from Music of My Mind through Song's In The Key of Life. The albums are essential because the quality of material is just astonishing.
I would rank Prince's '80-'88 run right behind it. Prince covered more bases during his streak, but Stevie get's the nod because he had fewer collaborators. It's a tough call because they were both so damn good at their peaks. | |
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GangstaFam said: Moonbeam said: Prince and David Bowie would have something to say about that.
I don't know Stevie's work well enough to say, but based on what I've heard, he can't touch either Prince or Bowie. The Cure was pretty solid from '79 to '89 too. Stevie literally dominated the decade. Neither Prince nor Bowie were household names for that long. The Grammy Awards might as well been called the Stevie Wonder Recognition Show for 4 consecutive years. Prince dominated a good portion of the 80s but not like Stevie did from 1970 through 1980. | |
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Certainly. | |
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namepeace said: 1972 Music of My Mind 1972 Talking Book 1973 Innervisions 1974 Fulfillingness' First Finale 1976 Songs in the Key of Life Anyone care to agree or disagree? Stevie's music was good before & after this, but these albums seem to be the reason he's called a genius. I think five classics in a decade is amazing but others could more easily compete with this than eleven like you claim, like Dylan, Prince, Bowie, Elvis Costello, Springsteen. And nobody answered, what is Portrait? Check this song out at:
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I think both Bowie and Prince covered more ground in terms of musical styles than Stevie did, but song writing-wise, Stevie's on top. But I certainly wouldn't want to put either above the others. | |
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GangstaFam said: Moonbeam said: Prince and David Bowie would have something to say about that.
I don't know Stevie's work well enough to say, but based on what I've heard, he can't touch either Prince or Bowie. The Cure was pretty solid from '79 to '89 too. are you serious? stevie totally owned and destroyed the 70's. check his string of 70's albums then come back to this post | |
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Moonbeam said: Acclaimed Music is a great website for determining the level of critical acclaim- both at the time of release and as albums age.
Here is the breakdown of all-time album and song ranks for the 3 artists in question: Prince: 1980-1990 Albums: 1980: Dirty Mind: 337 1982: 1999: 148 1984: Purple Rain: 45 1985: Around the World in a Day: 962 1986: Parade: 492 1987: Sign o' the Times: 19 1988: Lovesexy: 1284 1990: Graffiti Bridge: 1936 Songs: 1980: When You Were Mine: 1426 1981: Controversy: 1634 1982: 1999: 249 1982: Little Red Corvette: 80 1984: When Doves Cry: 41 1984: Let's Go Crazy: 1258 1984: Purple Rain: 430 1985: Raspberry Beret: 1378 1986: Kiss: 144 1987: Sign o' the Times: 129 1987: If I Was Your Girlfriend: 893 1987: U Got the Look: 1128 1987: I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man: 1775 1988: Alphabet St.: 954 I like how you left off batman | |
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Moonbeam said: Acclaimed Music is a great website for determining the level of critical acclaim- both at the time of release and as albums age.
Here is the breakdown of all-time album and song ranks for the 3 artists in question: David Bowie: 1970 - 1980 Albums: 1970: The Man Who Sold the World: 1048 1971: Hunky Dory: 55 1972: Ziggy Stardust: 16 1973: Aladdin Sane: 402 1974: Diamond Dogs: 1279 1975: Young Americans: 756 1976: Station to Station: 224 1977: Low: 80 1977: "Heroes": 205 1980: Scary Monsters: 452 Songs: 1971: Changes: 152 1971: Life on Mars?: 473 1972: Starman: 493 1972: Ziggy Stardust: 156 1974: Rebel, Rebel: 1166 1975: Young Americans: 448 1975: Fame: 633 1976: Golden Years: 1078 1976: Wild Is the Wind: 870 1977: Sound and Vision: 1388 1977: Heroes: 57 1980: Ashes to Ashes: 747 1980: Fashion: 1895 Stevie Wonder: 1970-1980 Albums: 1971: Where I'm Coming From: 1999 1972: Music of My Mind: 671 1972: Talking Book: 94 1973: Innervisions: 33 1974: Fulfillingness' First Finale: 591 1976: Songs in the Key of Life: 43 1980: Hotter Than July: 1368 Songs: 1972: Superstition: 30 1972: You Are the Sunshine of My Life: 564 1973: Higher Ground: 721 1973: Living for the City: 312 1974: You Haven't Done Nothin': 1359 1980: Masterblaster (Jammin'): 1432 Prince: 1980-1990 Albums: 1980: Dirty Mind: 337 1982: 1999: 148 1984: Purple Rain: 45 1985: Around the World in a Day: 962 1986: Parade: 492 1987: Sign o' the Times: 19 1988: Lovesexy: 1284 1990: Graffiti Bridge: 1936 Songs: 1980: When You Were Mine: 1426 1981: Controversy: 1634 1982: 1999: 249 1982: Little Red Corvette: 80 1984: When Doves Cry: 41 1984: Let's Go Crazy: 1258 1984: Purple Rain: 430 1985: Raspberry Beret: 1378 1986: Kiss: 144 1987: Sign o' the Times: 129 1987: If I Was Your Girlfriend: 893 1987: U Got the Look: 1128 1987: I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man: 1775 1988: Alphabet St.: 954 just seeing this layed out like this makes me giddy, what's the emoticon for that? | |
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namepeace said: This eclipses the output of most other artists over the period of any given decade-long stretch in terms of prolific output, critical acclaim and commercial success.
Well based on these criteria... They were all about equally prolific, with the edge given to Prince if you include all the side projects and outtakes. They're all about equally acclaimed critically with the edge probably going to Bowie. And as far as commercial success in the U.S., Prince outsold either one, right? | |
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GangstaFam said: namepeace said: This eclipses the output of most other artists over the period of any given decade-long stretch in terms of prolific output, critical acclaim and commercial success.
Well based on these criteria... They were all about equally prolific, with the edge given to Prince if you include all the side projects and outtakes. They're all about equally acclaimed critically with the edge probably going to Bowie. And as far as commercial success in the U.S., Prince outsold either one, right? Actually, I think Stevie enjoyed more consistently high commercial success in the 70s than prince did in the 80s, and I don't know how they each exactly compare in terms of prolificness, but I do know that stevie has as many if not more outtakes than prince, and he did produce and write songs for many other artists (though he didn't have any protege acts whose albums were practically unofficial albums of his own the way prince did, unless you count syreeta wright's two albums). | |
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lilgish said: Moonbeam said: Acclaimed Music is a great website for determining the level of critical acclaim- both at the time of release and as albums age.
Here is the breakdown of all-time album and song ranks for the 3 artists in question: Prince: 1980-1990 Albums: 1980: Dirty Mind: 337 1982: 1999: 148 1984: Purple Rain: 45 1985: Around the World in a Day: 962 1986: Parade: 492 1987: Sign o' the Times: 19 1988: Lovesexy: 1284 1990: Graffiti Bridge: 1936 Songs: 1980: When You Were Mine: 1426 1981: Controversy: 1634 1982: 1999: 249 1982: Little Red Corvette: 80 1984: When Doves Cry: 41 1984: Let's Go Crazy: 1258 1984: Purple Rain: 430 1985: Raspberry Beret: 1378 1986: Kiss: 144 1987: Sign o' the Times: 129 1987: If I Was Your Girlfriend: 893 1987: U Got the Look: 1128 1987: I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man: 1775 1988: Alphabet St.: 954 I like how you left off batman Batman and Controvsery both failed to make that site's top 2000, so I didn't exlude their ratings because there are none. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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