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lastdecember

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Why we do care so much about "soundscan" and numbers

It amazes me how much we "who love music" talk about a Rating system that has nothing to do with "Loving Music". The latest buzz is over Mariah selling 400,000 + units. Ok, so whats the big deal. I mean I love Mariah but this isnt a measure of a good record, I mean I am already tired of this CD and its only been two weeks, I basically listen to 3-4 songs on it. But Im not here to pick on Mariah, Im just talking aobut a system that "SHOULD" have no bearing on peoples taste, but I work in music retail and I see it all the time that People just buy what everyone else is buying, everyone is so afraid to take a chance, from the consumer, to the Video stations, to the radio stations, No one takes a chance anymore. I long for the days when a song or an album used to climb the charts, Now everybodys "shit" debuts at Number 1 and then falls until the next big HYPE comes around. Just a small note, the numbers are as real as the artists themselves.

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Reply #1 posted 04/20/05 9:12am

thesexofit

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I sure as hell don't.

Every year a cd just sells sooooo many copies that people who don't usually bother buying music then buy their 1 album a year on the biggest seller. Coffee table music I have heard it called in the UK.

Check Dido


I buy the most obscure shit that no one even wants. I couldn't care less how many "thriller" sold. I still don't really listen to it.
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Reply #2 posted 04/20/05 9:22am

jayaredee

Mainstream artists depend on high numbers to be seen as relevant in the public eye.
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Reply #3 posted 04/20/05 9:22am

GangstaFam

We do? I don't.
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Reply #4 posted 04/20/05 9:23am

GangstaFam

And is that Krychek from X-Files?
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Reply #5 posted 04/20/05 9:53am

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I don't. I don't even know what "soundscan" is. confuse
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Reply #6 posted 04/20/05 10:55am

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thesexofit said:


Check Dido


that photo is way too grainy and not to amusing either.
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Reply #7 posted 04/21/05 4:18am

DavidEye

I don't care about record sales one bit.Yeah,it's fun to keep an eye on the charts and see how well your favorite artists are doing,but in the end,it's not that important to me.If I like an album,that's all that matters to me.
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Reply #8 posted 04/21/05 4:19am

Cloudbuster

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DavidEye said:

I don't care about record sales one bit.Yeah,it's fun to keep an eye on the charts and see how well your favorite artists are doing,but in the end,it's not that important to me.If I like an album,that's all that matters to me.


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Reply #9 posted 04/21/05 4:21am

VoicesCarry

lilgish said:

thesexofit said:


Check Dido


that photo is way too grainy and not to amusing either.


Yeah, but I'll bet it's straight outta 1992.
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Reply #10 posted 04/21/05 5:37am

Sdldawn

I dont
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Reply #11 posted 04/21/05 6:08am

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lastdecember said:

It amazes me how much we "who love music" talk about a Rating system that has nothing to do with "Loving Music". The latest buzz is over Mariah selling 400,000 + units. Ok, so whats the big deal. I mean I love Mariah but this isnt a measure of a good record, I mean I am already tired of this CD and its only been two weeks, I basically listen to 3-4 songs on it. But Im not here to pick on Mariah, Im just talking aobut a system that "SHOULD" have no bearing on peoples taste, but I work in music retail and I see it all the time that People just buy what everyone else is buying, everyone is so afraid to take a chance, from the consumer, to the Video stations, to the radio stations, No one takes a chance anymore. I long for the days when a song or an album used to climb the charts, Now everybodys "shit" debuts at Number 1 and then falls until the next big HYPE comes around. Just a small note, the numbers are as real as the artists themselves.


soundscan and billboard album charts are based on what the people are buying and not based on payola and rado airplay that record companies are deciding on ie:hot 100. end of the day it's just tally and ur right has no bearing on the quality of music.
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Reply #12 posted 04/21/05 6:43am

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twink69 said:

lastdecember said:

It amazes me how much we "who love music" talk about a Rating system that has nothing to do with "Loving Music". The latest buzz is over Mariah selling 400,000 + units. Ok, so whats the big deal. I mean I love Mariah but this isnt a measure of a good record, I mean I am already tired of this CD and its only been two weeks, I basically listen to 3-4 songs on it. But Im not here to pick on Mariah, Im just talking aobut a system that "SHOULD" have no bearing on peoples taste, but I work in music retail and I see it all the time that People just buy what everyone else is buying, everyone is so afraid to take a chance, from the consumer, to the Video stations, to the radio stations, No one takes a chance anymore. I long for the days when a song or an album used to climb the charts, Now everybodys "shit" debuts at Number 1 and then falls until the next big HYPE comes around. Just a small note, the numbers are as real as the artists themselves.


soundscan and billboard album charts are based on what the people are buying and not based on payola and rado airplay that record companies are deciding on ie:hot 100. end of the day it's just tally and ur right has no bearing on the quality of music.

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It is also based on double scanning. Which is going on more than most people on this board want to admit.
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Reply #13 posted 04/21/05 6:46am

Tessa

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laurarichardson said:

twink69 said:



soundscan and billboard album charts are based on what the people are buying and not based on payola and rado airplay that record companies are deciding on ie:hot 100. end of the day it's just tally and ur right has no bearing on the quality of music.

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It is also based on double scanning. Which is going on more than most people on this board want to admit.



i don't think it's a matter of whether or not they want to admit it. most people just don't care. what possible impact could it have on their lives? if it were election fraud, fine. but it's record sales. BFD.
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Reply #14 posted 04/21/05 7:05am

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VoicesCarry said:

lilgish said:



that photo is way too grainy and not to amusing either.


Yeah, but I'll bet it's straight outta 1992.



? where it is from.
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Reply #15 posted 04/21/05 7:55am

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Tessa said:

laurarichardson said:


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It is also based on double scanning. Which is going on more than most people on this board want to admit.



i don't think it's a matter of whether or not they want to admit it. most people just don't care. what possible impact could it have on their lives? if it were election fraud, fine. but it's record sales. BFD.

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I said on this board as it has been discussed before. Some people bring up SoundScan a lot on this board so it must be somewhat important to them.
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Reply #16 posted 04/21/05 8:00am

Tessa

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laurarichardson said:

Tessa said:




i don't think it's a matter of whether or not they want to admit it. most people just don't care. what possible impact could it have on their lives? if it were election fraud, fine. but it's record sales. BFD.

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I said on this board as it has been discussed before. Some people bring up SoundScan a lot on this board so it must be somewhat important to them.



nah, they don't. it's just the closest number we've got. even with double-scanning, it's more accurate than the system that was in place prior to it.
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Reply #17 posted 04/21/05 8:36am

Novabreaker

I really don't. The last time I took a look at the charts was when Musicology was released. And that was just because they were posted at this site?

None of my favourite bands have ever entered the Billboard charts. Two or three might have been on German or Swedish charts though, but that's not tellin' much.
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