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Thread started 04/19/05 10:57pm

TonyVanDam

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Teena Marie VS. Mariah Carey

Within 7 rounds of singing, who would win?

My answer: Lady T would destory Mariah by Round 3!!!
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Reply #1 posted 04/19/05 11:29pm

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Forget about round 3, Teena would destroy her ass in 5 seconds.
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Reply #2 posted 04/19/05 11:40pm

CinisterCee

Being part of what vainandy describes as "the dead generation", I actually haven't heard Teena's new shit.
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Reply #3 posted 04/20/05 1:23am

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I can't even compare the 2.....both good in their own right.
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Reply #4 posted 04/20/05 7:05am

TonyVanDam

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vainandy said:

Forget about round 3, Teena would destroy her ass in 5 seconds.


If Teena start the opening round with Cassnova Brown, you could be right!!!

Mariah would tap out & not know for sure how to respond.
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Reply #5 posted 04/20/05 7:43am

VoicesCarry

CinisterCee said:

Being part of what vainandy describes as "the dead generation", I actually haven't heard Teena's new shit.


You're missing nothing.

But Teena has soul. I'd love to hear her singing on "Mimi" instead of Mariah.
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Reply #6 posted 04/20/05 7:54am

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TonyVanDam said:

Within 7 rounds of singing, who would win?

My answer: Lady T would destory Mariah by Round 3!!!



This is a GREAT question. Both have great voices, but wow, technical ability isn't enough.

Teena can ooooozzze into a song and fill it with such passion and emotion that you are THERE in the song, living it!

Mariah has yet to really show that ability. She can sing, no doubt, but she can't sanng.

Portuguese Love. Yes Indeed. Square Biz. Revolution. Behind the Groove.

All sound different.


"Contrary to popular opinion, I'm EXtremely Sh-ah-aiiii-y."

Only in her first song has Mariah shown the emotional depths that she is capable of.


Teena. Hands down. No contest.
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Reply #7 posted 04/20/05 11:32am

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Not even a challenge for my girl Teena or fair fight for Mariah. Maybe in Mariah's early days there would have been grounds for a sing-off.

Teena all the way.
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Reply #8 posted 04/20/05 11:35am

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It’s the difference between real soul and manufactured soul. Both are the real deal though.
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Reply #9 posted 04/20/05 12:01pm

JesseDezz

Teena Marie is wayyyy funkier.

Plus, her material (especially her classic stuff) is stronger. Mariah seems like she's slumming - her vocal talents deserve real songs. She seems to be going for trendiness instead of timelessness.
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Reply #10 posted 04/20/05 12:19pm

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Im conflicted with the two.

I'd go with Teena because she had SOUL and there was so much heart put in2 her songs.

Yet I only own 3 or Teena Maries albums vs. ALL of Mariah's plus remixes and rarities so Mariah wins by album default.

But If I have heard all of Teena's material (the first 2 albums are very hard to find) I'd probably go with Teena.
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Reply #11 posted 04/20/05 10:11pm

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I can't believe some of you are even considering Mariah!!! THERE IS NO COMPARISON!!! Not only does Teena have more vocal talent... but she writes all her songs, produces, and plays several instruments... What would Mariah be without the army of songwriters and producers spoonfeeding her songs?!
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Reply #12 posted 04/20/05 10:26pm

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sdekm1 said:

I can't believe some of you are even considering Mariah!!! THERE IS NO COMPARISON!!! Not only does Teena have more vocal talent... but she writes all her songs, produces, and plays several instruments... What would Mariah be without the army of songwriters and producers spoonfeeding her songs?!



Yes, Teena plays piano and guitar and Goodness Knows What Else. Mariah doesn't write her own stuff, but partners up with the latest producers to get the latest "hot" sound. The end result of that approcach is that your stuff sounds like everyone else's. See Michael Jackson's Invincible album for a great example of this in action.

No memorable tunes because you sound like everyone else.
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Reply #13 posted 04/20/05 10:33pm

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Alasseon said:[quote]sdekm1 said:[quote] Mariah doesn't write her own stuff, quote]

Actually she does. I love Teena Marie, I think she's awesome. I'm not going to compare the two, they are completely different artists.
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Reply #14 posted 04/20/05 10:38pm

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sdekm1 said:

I can't believe some of you are even considering Mariah!!! THERE IS NO COMPARISON!!! Not only does Teena have more vocal talent... but she writes all her songs, produces, and plays several instruments... What would Mariah be without the army of songwriters and producers spoonfeeding her songs?!



Thank you. Mariah has all the technical ability, but Lady T has S-O-U-L!
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Reply #15 posted 04/20/05 11:07pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

sdekm1 said:

I can't believe some of you are even considering Mariah!!! THERE IS NO COMPARISON!!! Not only does Teena have more vocal talent... but she writes all her songs, produces, and plays several instruments... What would Mariah be without the army of songwriters and producers spoonfeeding her songs?!



Thank you. Mariah has all the technical ability, but Lady T has S-O-U-L!



But Mariah does write her own songs
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Reply #16 posted 04/20/05 11:50pm

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paisleypark4 said:

uPtoWnNY said:




Thank you. Mariah has all the technical ability, but Lady T has S-O-U-L!



But Mariah does write her own songs



Cool...I stand corrected. I was speaking only on the basis of one of her interviews without actually going to the CD's. Mariah is a great artist, no doubt. I give her credit, but in terms of style and soul, I give Teena the edge.

I'm glad Mariah's in the game though. She has more soul in her pinkie than Whitney "Rhythmless Nation" Houston.

Dammit. No more comparisons. They are all good in their own ways.
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Reply #17 posted 04/21/05 12:41am

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JesseDezz said:

Teena Marie is wayyyy funkier.

Plus, her material (especially her classic stuff) is stronger. Mariah seems like she's slumming - her vocal talents deserve real songs. She seems to be going for trendiness instead of timelessness.


nod As you all know, Ms Legs is a Old School fool. I have to admit that Teena is still holding it down while my girls Mariah, and Whitney have went down the damn toilet. Also being that I am a Funkologist fro, I have to say that Teena definitely is more funkier b/c of her personal and musical relationship with the late great King Of Punk-Funk Rick James.
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Reply #18 posted 04/21/05 1:05am

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paisleypark4 said:

uPtoWnNY said:




Thank you. Mariah has all the technical ability, but Lady T has S-O-U-L!



But Mariah does write her own songs

I just looked up some of her albums, and while apparently she does indeed write SOME of her own songs a great majority of them are CO-written by other people.... On "Rainbow" she is helped by others on almost ALL of the songs... On "How Much", there are SEVEN co-writers... And it's not like there's any deep thoughtful lyrics to any of this fluff that she sings... Teena does a majority of the work: Singing, Songwriting, Producing, Arranging AND Musicianship herself! To me, that simply puts her into a higher level that Mariah, or for that matter, Most female singers....
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Reply #19 posted 04/21/05 1:24am

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paisleypark4 said:




But Mariah does write her own songs

I just looked up some of her albums, and while apparently she does indeed write SOME of her own songs a great majority of them are CO-written by other people.... On "Rainbow" she is helped by others on almost ALL of the songs... On "How Much", there are SEVEN co-writers... And it's not like there's any deep thoughtful lyrics to any of this fluff that she sings... Teena does a majority of the work: Singing, Songwriting, Producing, Arranging AND Musicianship herself! To me, that simply puts her into a higher level that Mariah, or for that matter, Most female singers....


Mariah writes most of her lyrics and is involved with crafting the melodies. Her early material only had 1 or 2 collaborators.
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Reply #20 posted 04/21/05 3:03am

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VoicesCarry said:

sdekm1 said:


I just looked up some of her albums, and while apparently she does indeed write SOME of her own songs a great majority of them are CO-written by other people.... On "Rainbow" she is helped by others on almost ALL of the songs... On "How Much", there are SEVEN co-writers... And it's not like there's any deep thoughtful lyrics to any of this fluff that she sings... Teena does a majority of the work: Singing, Songwriting, Producing, Arranging AND Musicianship herself! To me, that simply puts her into a higher level that Mariah, or for that matter, Most female singers....


Mariah writes most of her lyrics and is involved with crafting the melodies. Her early material only had 1 or 2 collaborators.

"Involved with", is not doing it yourself..... And I would also question, how much involvement she actually has, or is she just GIVEN credits, being that she's not a musician.
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Reply #21 posted 04/21/05 3:57am

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VoicesCarry said:



Mariah writes most of her lyrics and is involved with crafting the melodies. Her early material only had 1 or 2 collaborators.

"Involved with", is not doing it yourself..... And I would also question, how much involvement she actually has, or is she just GIVEN credits, being that she's not a musician.


*Shrug* You don't have to be a musician to have a sense of melody. The chick did grow up around musicians and with her opera-singer mother, so I'm sure she learned some things along the way. She's solely responsible for her early lyrics, though - read the credits. They're not anything special, but at least they're not insultingly stupid, as most of the stuff today is.
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Reply #22 posted 04/21/05 10:05am

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Mariah-in a heartbeat, but then again I've never been wild about Teena's voice, anyway.
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