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Reply #60 posted 04/05/05 7:00am

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I prefer Mikes music. I own 4 janet albums ("control" "1814" "janet." "damita jo"- last one was such a waste of money.) The thread isn't about who's more talented. We all know Michael is. Janet only got famous because of the prodcuers she picked. If not for jam and lewis, she wouldn't be half as sucsessful. They saved their best stuff for Janets albums. They made her career. Janet is as talanted as a average boyband member.


Jermaine is more talented then Janet, proberly Randy is too.
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Reply #61 posted 04/05/05 7:28am

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Michael OBLITERATES Janet on a number of levels:

1) composition
2) originality/creativity
3) vocal range, style, chops
4) plays more instruments in the studio (drums, guitar, synths)
5) dance chops-I think Michael is acutually one of the greatest dancer's of all time
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Reply #62 posted 04/05/05 7:32am

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Ae u serious. How can u put both of them in the same sentence. Michael no doubt hands down is better than Janet. My top 6 all time are as follows:

1. madonna
2. michael jackson
3. Prince
4. Whitney Houston
5. Then miss jackson
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Reply #63 posted 04/05/05 7:36am

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Having grown up loving both these nutjobs from the beginning of both their careers I’d have to say I prefer Michael. Much of the stuff Janet has done Michael (or Madonna) did. While Michael has started to become a bit stagnant with his live performances Janet has improved however I can't see her doing anything that hasn't been choreographed including walking back and forth across the stage and whipping her hand to a musical accent.

Michael has pushed the envelope musically and visually, is one of the best live performers ever, has the purist voice, and is a great lyricist. Innate or acquired, they're both out to lunch and I don't think they intend on returning either but Michael's artistry is unparalleled.

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Reply #64 posted 04/05/05 7:38am

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JackieBlue said:


Michael has pushed the envelope musically and visually, is one of the best live performers ever, has the purist voice, and is a great lyricist.


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Reply #65 posted 04/05/05 7:43am

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Novabreaker said:

JackieBlue said:


Michael has pushed the envelope musically and visually, is one of the best live performers ever, has the purist voice, and is a great lyricist.


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lol True, he ain't the world's greatest lyricist.
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Reply #66 posted 04/05/05 7:49am

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lol Okay, he's written some turds but I also think he's written some great songs too. In comparison to Janet they're winners.
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Reply #67 posted 04/05/05 7:53am

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JANET

you can throw facts, figures, vocal abilities etc... as "evidence" that MJ is better.

but they don't mean anything to me.
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Reply #68 posted 04/05/05 9:00am

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DavidEye said:

But can any of her albums compare with 'Off The Wall' and 'Thriller'?


Rhythm Nation 1814 beats the pants off of any of Michael's albums. nod I also prefer All for You and The Velvet Rope to anything Michael has released.

Hell,can any of her singles compare with the early Jackson 5 stuff? I'll take "Who's Lovin You" and "Mama's Pearl" over ANY Janet single.


I'll take any Janet single over the Jackson 5 stuff.
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Reply #69 posted 04/05/05 9:01am

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JackieBlue said:

lol Okay, he's written some turds but I also think he's written some great songs too. In comparison to Janet they're winners.


I'll give you that. lol
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Reply #70 posted 04/05/05 9:02am

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Moonbeam said:

DavidEye said:

But can any of her albums compare with 'Off The Wall' and 'Thriller'?


Rhythm Nation 1814 beats the pants off of any of Michael's albums. nod I also prefer All for You and The Velvet Rope to anything Michael has released.

Hell,can any of her singles compare with the early Jackson 5 stuff? I'll take "Who's Lovin You" and "Mama's Pearl" over ANY Janet single.


I'll take any Janet single over the Jackson 5 stuff.



Even "Everytime" or "Two to the Power of Love" ? wink
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Reply #71 posted 04/05/05 9:12am

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I'd have to vote Janet. I realize that she's less talented than her brother, that she copied many things from him wholesale, and that she really can't sing (Wow, listen to me defend Miss Janet wink ), but some part of me will always be a Janet fan.

I think her music used to be (before AFY) more mature than Mike's, her production was flawless, and her videos timeless. Look at the videos for "Black or White" and "Remember the Time" in comparison to the ones for "Rhythm Nation" and "That's the Way Love Goes"; Janet didn't equate spending millions of dollars on special effects with making a great video. His videos just look dated in this day and age, whereas her videos won't date.

The same thing happens in their music. Bad and RN1814 came out two years apart, and although RN sounds like 1989, Bad has dated so badly that it sounds ridiclious now. That MIDI solo in the middle of the title song? That California R'n'B sound on "Smooth Criminal"? Dated.
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Reply #72 posted 04/05/05 9:14am

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thesexofit said:

"superfly sister" is one of my all time fav MJ tracks. So cold sounding and funky. Must be a demo. I have said it before, it is spawn of or it spawned "do the bart man". The drums are the same, the writers are the same. So it is a 1990 demo infact.


I don't think it's a demo as it's sounds too detailed to be so, but I'm pretty certain it was recorded during the Dangerous sessions along with Blood On The Dance Floor.
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Reply #73 posted 04/05/05 9:20am

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FIRST OF ALL...IF IT WASNT FOR MICHAEL JANET WOULD BE FAMOUS... BUT IF JANET DIDNT HAVE TALENT SHE STILL WOULDNT BE AROUND SHE HAS TALENT AND THATS WHAT REALLY MADE HER FAMOUS
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Reply #74 posted 04/05/05 11:25am

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Axchi696 said:

I'd have to vote Janet. I realize that she's less talented than her brother, that she copied many things from him wholesale, and that she really can't sing (Wow, listen to me defend Miss Janet wink ), but some part of me will always be a Janet fan.

I think her music used to be (before AFY) more mature than Mike's, her production was flawless, and her videos timeless. Look at the videos for "Black or White" and "Remember the Time" in comparison to the ones for "Rhythm Nation" and "That's the Way Love Goes"; Janet didn't equate spending millions of dollars on special effects with making a great video. His videos just look dated in this day and age, whereas her videos won't date.

The same thing happens in their music. Bad and RN1814 came out two years apart, and although RN sounds like 1989, Bad has dated so badly that it sounds ridiclious now. That MIDI solo in the middle of the title song? That California R'n'B sound on "Smooth Criminal"? Dated.


Got 'Til It's Gone is her best video, I think. I love its afrocentricity.
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Reply #75 posted 04/05/05 12:31pm

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I vote for Janet.

her albums espeically Velvet Rope seem to be more personal and relatable, and i like how she tries to tell a story with each album.
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Reply #76 posted 04/05/05 12:35pm

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ehuffnsd said:

I vote for Janet.

her albums espeically Velvet Rope seem to be more personal and relatable, and i like how she tries to tell a story with each album.


usually with the sound of rainstorms and moaning an groaning, not to mention boring little chats with her girlfriends. As for personal and relatable, 'Stranger In Moscow' alone pisses all over anything Janet has ever done.

IMHO.
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Reply #77 posted 04/05/05 12:46pm

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usually with the sound of rainstorms and moaning an groaning, not to mention boring little chats with her girlfriends. As for personal and relatable, 'Stranger In Moscow' alone pisses all over anything Janet has ever done.

IMHO.



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Reply #78 posted 04/05/05 1:20pm

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Marrk said:

ehuffnsd said:

I vote for Janet.

her albums espeically Velvet Rope seem to be more personal and relatable, and i like how she tries to tell a story with each album.


usually with the sound of rainstorms and moaning an groaning, not to mention boring little chats with her girlfriends. As for personal and relatable, 'Stranger In Moscow' alone pisses all over anything Janet has ever done.

IMHO.




Yeah, I know at some point I felt like a mega-wealthy rock star whining in a Russian hotel room. Plus, those stupid kids yelling "Michael" at the beginning, that damn whistle motif thingie, "I'm talking danger"... Sorry, it's the epitome of cheese.
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Reply #79 posted 04/05/05 1:30pm

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Pretty much everything Janet's ever done has been cheese. lol
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Reply #80 posted 04/05/05 1:31pm

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Axchi696 said:

Marrk said:



usually with the sound of rainstorms and moaning an groaning, not to mention boring little chats with her girlfriends. As for personal and relatable, 'Stranger In Moscow' alone pisses all over anything Janet has ever done.

IMHO.




Yeah, I know at some point I felt like a mega-wealthy rock star whining in a Russian hotel room. Plus, those stupid kids yelling "Michael" at the beginning, that damn whistle motif thingie, "I'm talking danger"... Sorry, it's the epitome of cheese.


Like i said just my opinion. You're entitled to yours.
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Reply #81 posted 04/05/05 1:32pm

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Axchi696 said:

Marrk said:



usually with the sound of rainstorms and moaning an groaning, not to mention boring little chats with her girlfriends. As for personal and relatable, 'Stranger In Moscow' alone pisses all over anything Janet has ever done.

IMHO.




Yeah, I know at some point I felt like a mega-wealthy rock star whining in a Russian hotel room. Plus, those stupid kids yelling "Michael" at the beginning, that damn whistle motif thingie, "I'm talking danger"... Sorry, it's the epitome of cheese.


How dare you insult such a creative work
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Reply #82 posted 04/05/05 1:37pm

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jayaredee said:

Axchi696 said:





Yeah, I know at some point I felt like a mega-wealthy rock star whining in a Russian hotel room. Plus, those stupid kids yelling "Michael" at the beginning, that damn whistle motif thingie, "I'm talking danger"... Sorry, it's the epitome of cheese.


How dare you insult such a creative work
SHAME!!! mad


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Reply #83 posted 04/05/05 1:37pm

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jayaredee said:

Axchi696 said:





Yeah, I know at some point I felt like a mega-wealthy rock star whining in a Russian hotel room. Plus, those stupid kids yelling "Michael" at the beginning, that damn whistle motif thingie, "I'm talking danger"... Sorry, it's the epitome of cheese.


How dare you insult such a creative work
SHAME!!! mad



Eh, you call it a creative work, I call it pissing and moaning. shrug biggrin
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Reply #84 posted 04/05/05 3:09pm

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Pretty much everything Janet's ever done has been cheese. lol


Control and Rhythm Nation? confuse
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Reply #85 posted 04/05/05 3:14pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:

Pretty much everything Janet's ever done has been cheese. lol


Control and Rhythm Nation? confuse


They're ok. Certainly RN is her best effort. nod
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Reply #86 posted 04/05/05 3:17pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:

Pretty much everything Janet's ever done has been cheese. lol


Control and Rhythm Nation? confuse


"He Doesn't Know I'm Alive" is k0rn and "Let's Wait Awhile" came tumbling down into the syrup jug towards the end. mad

And parts of "Black Cat" always struck me as kind of campy. A rocker she is not. lol

But otherwise.. nah, they ain't corny albums. wink
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Reply #87 posted 04/05/05 3:20pm

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squiddyren said:

VoicesCarry said:



Control and Rhythm Nation? confuse


"He Doesn't Know I'm Alive" is k0rn and "Let's Wait Awhile" came tumbling down into the syrup jug towards the end. mad

And parts of "Black Cat" always struck me as kind of campy. A rocker she is not. lol

But otherwise.. nah, they ain't corny albums. wink


Black Cat is great. Love the Japanese Maxi, wherever it is! neutral
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Reply #88 posted 04/05/05 3:21pm

VoicesCarry

squiddyren said:

VoicesCarry said:



Control and Rhythm Nation? confuse


"He Doesn't Know I'm Alive" is k0rn and "Let's Wait Awhile" came tumbling down into the syrup jug towards the end. mad

And parts of "Black Cat" always struck me as kind of campy. A rocker she is not. lol

But otherwise.. nah, they ain't corny albums. wink


It's all good. I like that Minneapolis funk.
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Reply #89 posted 04/05/05 3:40pm

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

As far as I know, Janet auditioned with A&M. Where did you get this info that "they just signed her"?


I heard it from a friend who is a big fan of Michael and she has a lot of Janet's stuff so I don't know if this is true but I wouldn't doubt it.



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