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Reply #30 posted 04/02/05 7:00pm

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CalhounSq said:



lol He ain't even cute! disbelief hammer razz

They say that Shamar guy is cute. He does nothing for me. That kind of "cute" I can only stand for a second. He exudes nothing.
I never said that Hunt was cute. Haven't really given that much thought but I guess he does exude cuteness.


Shemar looks like a cheetah cub. I've said this many times. Attraction to him is unnatural no no no!

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Reply #31 posted 04/02/05 7:03pm

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Neither of them are as soulful as R.Kelly, and that’s just real.


Here you go neutral razz Kinda hard to listen to R when you don't know if he's singing about doing his woman or diddling your neice, no? neutral

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Reply #32 posted 04/02/05 7:56pm

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I have only heard a couple of Van Hunt's songs because my Amazon.com wizard kept recommending him to me based on my prior selections. rolleyes He's ok, but I haven't felt compelled to buy his CD.

Anyways, I listen to John Legend all the time and have to say that I love his sound. I don't find it to be a "typical RnB-hip-hop hybrid", but I guess it's cool if ya feel that way.

So my obvious choice is...

John Legend

Duh! lol
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Reply #33 posted 04/02/05 9:04pm

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CalhounSq said:

lilgish said:

Neither of them are as soulful as R.Kelly, and that’s just real.


Here you go neutral razz Kinda hard to listen to R when you don't know if he's singing about doing his woman or diddling your neice, no? neutral

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All I know is that Kelly is more soulful than these guys. To answer the question though.

I’ve heard hundred of guys with demos that sound like Van Hunt, what’s the x-factor? Van Hunt is handsome…he may not be your type, but he definitely has a marketable look. It’s the whole "if Jill Scott looked like Alicia Keys scenario.” I don’t know what the fuck happened to D'Angelo, but Van Hunt could certainly corner his market. His album is reminiscent of P’s “for you” in its uncompromising singular vision; it’s doesn’t seem like a producer controlled him on this.

I downloaded John Legend’s album yesterday after feeling left out on the conversation about ordinary people; he is the real deal and has all the chops to be a consistent artist in the business.
John Legends “Get lifted” sounds way too over produced though, his brilliant voice only gets to breathe through Kayne’s "college dropout" like production in Ordinary People, So high and Refugee.


Both of their albums were flawed and the reason is production. These albums should be recorded in analog (or with more analog like equipment) and preferably in one take; that’s the best way to capture the soul. (everything nowadays sounds like it was mixed and cut up in pro-tools.)

John Legend is way ahead now, but so was Rick James at one point when compared to Prince.
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Reply #34 posted 04/02/05 9:49pm

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lilgish said:

CalhounSq said:



Here you go neutral razz Kinda hard to listen to R when you don't know if he's singing about doing his woman or diddling your neice, no? neutral

NEXT! chair


All I know is that Kelly is more soulful than these guys. To answer the question though.

I’ve heard hundred of guys with demos that sound like Van Hunt, what’s the x-factor? Van Hunt is handsome…he may not be your type, but he definitely has a marketable look.


Dude looks like a mouseketeer evillol but I hear what you're saying, on all accounts. Good point about Rick & Princey too hmmm biggrin

Isn't it funny though, the Alicia Keys/Jill Scott comparison confused I've never heard that comparison but it's not hard to imagine. In my eyes Jill is so much prettier than Alicia so it must just be a weight/ethnicity issue w/ folks which is REALLY telling neutral



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Reply #35 posted 04/03/05 10:19am

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I like both artists, and I've started threads about both artists (although my John thread was premature because his CD wasn't out). I think both are very talented. Ultimately, I'd have to go with Van Hunt. As I said before, I think John Legend has "legend" potential, but this current CD suffers because of Kanye West's overbloated ego insisting he stamp John with his production style. If anything, it would seem that JOHN should be producing records for Kanye and not the other way around. Van Hunt's CD has a vibe that is undeniable. This is soul. Not "neo-soul", but SOUL. I haven't heard any artist out right now doing anything in the vein of what Van Hunt is doing (well, until Martin Luther dropped), whereas John's CD has a distinctly intentional "neo-soul" effort to it. I think John's voice is a bit stronger, but I like more of Van Hunt's songs. Lyrically and musically, I think Van is more "together" as an artist, whereas John's work seems a bit more contrived and market-oriented. To be fair, that may be due to Kanye's hand in the project. Both artists are talented, but Van Hunt is more of what I look for when I'm looking for soul/R&B records. John is more of what I get when I can't find artists like Van Hunt, but I want something new anyway.
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Reply #36 posted 04/03/05 12:57pm

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I like both artists, and I've started threads about both artists (although my John thread was premature because his CD wasn't out). I think both are very talented. Ultimately, I'd have to go with Van Hunt. As I said before, I think John Legend has "legend" potential, but this current CD suffers because of Kanye West's overbloated ego insisting he stamp John with his production style. If anything, it would seem that JOHN should be producing records for Kanye and not the other way around. Van Hunt's CD has a vibe that is undeniable. This is soul. Not "neo-soul", but SOUL. I haven't heard any artist out right now doing anything in the vein of what Van Hunt is doing (well, until Martin Luther dropped), whereas John's CD has a distinctly intentional "neo-soul" effort to it. I think John's voice is a bit stronger, but I like more of Van Hunt's songs. Lyrically and musically, I think Van is more "together" as an artist, whereas John's work seems a bit more contrived and market-oriented. To be fair, that may be due to Kanye's hand in the project. Both artists are talented, but Van Hunt is more of what I look for when I'm looking for soul/R&B records. John is more of what I get when I can't find artists like Van Hunt, but I want something new anyway.


I haven't heard Martin Luther's cd YET but I'm getting to it. He sounded great when he opened for Jill Scott. I'm looking forward to that one... maybe then it'll be a 3 way thread razz
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Reply #37 posted 04/03/05 2:19pm

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You and your three ways, CS. You're such a dirty girl. wink
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Reply #38 posted 04/03/05 5:47pm

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Van Hunt, though I'll admit I like him better live than on record.....But then, I haven't seen John live, so shrug

...It's also kinda hard to tell based on one album, which is sometimes all you get in today's music industry...Prince had to grow musically to get from "For You" to "Sign O' the Times"...I'll bet a lot of people heard Prince's first album back in '78, and thought, "It's OK, but it's no big deal...He sure as hell ain't no Stevie Wonder..."

...and there are a lot of people who got a lot of buzz and a great reputation because of live shows , only to put out that first "official" album that fell a little short of people's expectations...(Dwele, Bilal, and Kindred are a few examples)...

I have to agree. I however haven't seen Van Hunt live but I love his album. Can't get into Mr. Legend yet. Everyone I know has praised it to death but I'm still not feeling it. I liked Dwele and Bilal's albums but have never seen them live. Kindred however was the bomb at the Black Lily shows in PHilly but I never picked up their album.




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Reply #39 posted 04/03/05 10:20pm

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... He's written and produced much better songs for others: Dionne Farris; Rahsaan Patterson; Cree Summer. ...

What song/s did he do for Cree? Thought Lenny produced the CD. I heard a few of her tracks. Remember liking them.


He co-wrote Deliciously Down, Mean Sleep, and Sweet Pain.
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Reply #40 posted 04/04/05 12:35am

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BlaqueKnight said:

You and your three ways, CS. You're such a dirty girl. wink


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Reply #41 posted 04/04/05 12:40am

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I've not heard either of these two... confuse Then again...I'm not really into pop music. hmph!



















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Reply #42 posted 04/04/05 9:01am

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BlaqueKnight's assessment sums it up for me. I've seen both live and Van Hunt moves me more. VH's band is ultra tight and all are talented musicians in their own right. Plus, any cat who covers Sam Cooke and Al Green and holds down and enhances his own material all one set is alright with me. The fact that he plays several instruments is also impressive. A true Soul Singer in an era of sometimes watered down Soul music. Legend is OK and Get Lifted had a few moments but I prefer Van Hunt overall.
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Reply #43 posted 04/04/05 1:34pm

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It's all about the Huntster! His album is one of the best from last years releases. It's a nice combination of soul, funk and pop, plus he's fine as hell!
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Reply #44 posted 04/04/05 4:00pm

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Van Hunt is a horrible name. He might as well just call himself "Cunt."
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Reply #45 posted 04/04/05 4:43pm

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Van Hunt is a horrible name. He might as well just call himself "Cunt."




Now that's not very nice is it? no no no!
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Reply #46 posted 04/04/05 10:57pm

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dancerella said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

Van Hunt is a horrible name. He might as well just call himself "Cunt."




Now that's not very nice is it? no no no!



Well every time I see the name Van Hunt, I see Cunt.

It's just a really bad name.
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Reply #47 posted 04/04/05 11:36pm

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psykosoul said:

anon said:


What song/s did he do for Cree? Thought Lenny produced the CD. I heard a few of her tracks. Remember liking them.


He co-wrote Deliciously Down, Mean Sleep, and Sweet Pain.

wow. Didn't know that. Just assumed it was Lenny. Don't remember Sweet Pain. Will have to try to find it. Mean Sleep is nice.

Guess that definitely tips the scale that much farther in the Hunt direction.
Actually I suspect that Hunt will have the longevity with me. Been listening to more of Legend since this post. He's got this Bobby Short quality in his voice that's scary as hell....like, what if that takes over!
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Reply #48 posted 04/04/05 11:39pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

dancerella said:





Now that's not very nice is it? no no no!



Well every time I see the name Van Hunt, I see Cunt.

It's just a really bad name.

People usually see what they wanna see. Perhaps it's only you projecting.
Perhaps that's what you want him to be.
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Reply #49 posted 04/05/05 1:05pm

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psykosoul said:

anon said:


What song/s did he do for Cree? Thought Lenny produced the CD. I heard a few of her tracks. Remember liking them.


He co-wrote Deliciously Down, Mean Sleep, and Sweet Pain.


OMG!! Those are my favorite cuts on the album!! Damn.. that boy is talented.
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Reply #50 posted 04/05/05 1:07pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

I like both artists, and I've started threads about both artists (although my John thread was premature because his CD wasn't out). I think both are very talented. Ultimately, I'd have to go with Van Hunt. As I said before, I think John Legend has "legend" potential, but this current CD suffers because of Kanye West's overbloated ego insisting he stamp John with his production style. If anything, it would seem that JOHN should be producing records for Kanye and not the other way around. Van Hunt's CD has a vibe that is undeniable. This is soul. Not "neo-soul", but SOUL. I haven't heard any artist out right now doing anything in the vein of what Van Hunt is doing (well, until Martin Luther dropped), whereas John's CD has a distinctly intentional "neo-soul" effort to it. I think John's voice is a bit stronger, but I like more of Van Hunt's songs. Lyrically and musically, I think Van is more "together" as an artist, whereas John's work seems a bit more contrived and market-oriented. To be fair, that may be due to Kanye's hand in the project. Both artists are talented, but Van Hunt is more of what I look for when I'm looking for soul/R&B records. John is more of what I get when I can't find artists like Van Hunt, but I want something new anyway.


SO well said. I saw John open for Alicia. His set was a'ight. He blew me away with a solo version (vocal and keys only) of Ordinary People. I haven't seen Van live yet.. but I adore his album. Best soul album since Bilal. Martin Luther's new album is wonderful as well, but it's got more rock on it which I don't enjoy as much as the r&b.

Oh, speaking of Martin, if you want to be blown away, check this out. Goto MTV.com and look up artist Martin Luther. Check out his live clip of Daily Bread. Trust.
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Reply #51 posted 04/05/05 1:29pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

dancerella said:





Now that's not very nice is it? no no no!



Well every time I see the name Van Hunt, I see Cunt.

It's just a really bad name.


You're thinking of the old Mike Hunt joke:

Bartender picks up the phone
"Hello, I'm looking for Mr. Hunt. First name, Mike."

Bartender yells out in bar
Mike Hunt? Is Mike Hunt here? HAS ANYONE SEEN MIKE HUNT???

Bar patrons erupt in laughter.
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Reply #52 posted 04/05/05 7:03pm

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anon said:

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Well every time I see the name Van Hunt, I see Cunt.

It's just a really bad name.

People usually see what they wanna see. Perhaps it's only you projecting.
Perhaps that's what you want him to be.


I don't even know who he is.
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Reply #53 posted 04/05/05 7:03pm

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sextonseven said:

EvilWhiteMale said:




Well every time I see the name Van Hunt, I see Cunt.

It's just a really bad name.


You're thinking of the old Mike Hunt joke:

Bartender picks up the phone
"Hello, I'm looking for Mr. Hunt. First name, Mike."

Bartender yells out in bar
Mike Hunt? Is Mike Hunt here? HAS ANYONE SEEN MIKE HUNT???

Bar patrons erupt in laughter.


He may as well have named himself Mike Hunt.
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Reply #54 posted 04/05/05 7:05pm

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Well every time I see the name Van Hunt, I see Cunt.

It's just a really bad name.



Everytime I see John Legend on a thread I have to re-read it...I swear it says John Lennon! boxed
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Reply #55 posted 04/05/05 7:57pm

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I like both artists ,but Van Hunt is more my style.There's a little rock in his attitude and I appreciate it.
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Reply #56 posted 04/06/05 12:08am

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You fuckers are gonna make me check out Van's samples AGAIN mad lol
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Reply #57 posted 04/06/05 1:16am

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SO well said. I saw John open for Alicia. His set was a'ight. He blew me away with a solo version (vocal and keys only) of Ordinary People. I haven't seen Van live yet.. but I adore his album. Best soul album since Bilal. Martin Luther's new album is wonderful as well, but it's got more rock on it which I don't enjoy as much as the r&b.

Oh, speaking of Martin, if you want to be blown away, check this out. Goto MTV.com and look up artist Martin Luther. Check out his live clip of Daily Bread. Trust.
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Thanks for the heads up.
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Reply #58 posted 04/06/05 6:41pm

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Chico319 said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

Well every time I see the name Van Hunt, I see Cunt.

It's just a really bad name.



Everytime I see John Legend on a thread I have to re-read it...I swear it says John Lennon! boxed


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