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Reply #30 posted 03/31/05 4:34pm

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Has anyone ever noticed that Ashlee's ass crack is ALWAYS hanging out on the show? It seems like they always have to cover it up. I would think her father would tell her to pull her pants up but then again.... confused
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Reply #31 posted 03/31/05 4:55pm

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lovedad43 said:




Now that Bullshit!. No man especially a Father should be making such comments about his daughter, there are boundaries her a child reach a certain age and he has cross them. I can't imagine him making a comment about his son penis(if he had one)


If the mother said it, would you find it perverse?

If a mom said, "My son's crotch is too big for Christian music," would you find that perverse?
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Reply #32 posted 03/31/05 5:35pm

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Yes, Joe Simpson is f*cking creepy. So is Beyonce's dad, Matthew Knowles. Speaking of perverted celebrity dads, Steven Tyler had his daughter, Liv, in one of his videos playing the role of a pole dancer. confused
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Reply #33 posted 03/31/05 5:37pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:


If a mom said, "My son's crotch is too big for Christian music," would you find that perverse?

Why change the sex? Does heterosexuality denote possible sexual proclivity to ones own children of the opposite sex? If the father made a reference about his son’s crotch, would we be so quick to call him a pervert?

Anyway, that would never happen. The crouch doesn’t protrude out as much as breasts do. Female artists are judged on every part of their body. I don’t know anything about "Christian music" (except that it sucks), but some of those repressed folks woulda definitely made Jessica’s rack an issue.

I really don’t understand that comment by the father though, it’s not like she’s Dolly Parton, they could easily holster those puppies into place. Maybe the guys is a pervert, I haven’t seen the show.
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Reply #34 posted 03/31/05 9:25pm

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PurpleCharm said:

Yes, Joe Simpson is f*cking creepy. So is Beyonce's dad, Matthew Knowles. Speaking of perverted celebrity dads, Steven Tyler had his daughter, Liv, in one of his videos playing the role of a pole dancer. confused


Case in point: Until 2003, Steven & Liv use to wear the SAME pant size. And yes, Dad use to wear his daughter's jeans!!!
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Reply #35 posted 03/31/05 10:53pm

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isobelfq said:

CalhounSq said:



I'm not dressing up shit. The dude might be a perv BUT the breast comment didn't set off alarm bells in my head. Some of you are really over reacting neutral


i really hope you don't have any daughters.


I really hope we never meet in person 'cause I'd beat your fuckin' ass for even suggesting that I'd put a child in harms way over this fucking bullshit. finger
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Reply #36 posted 04/01/05 9:48am

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i really hope you don't have any daughters.


I really hope we never meet in person 'cause I'd beat your fuckin' ass for even suggesting that I'd put a child in harms way over this fucking bullshit. finger



now i really hope you never have children, daughters or sons. hrmph no no no!
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Reply #37 posted 04/01/05 10:58am

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There is always a harmless, healthy latent romance between parents and their children of opposite sex. It's not perverted or sexual, although it is sensual. Only a person with a defect would cross that thin line.

Man, I wish there were a psychologist on board to explain.

For girls who are close to their dads; he's like their first boyfriend and always will be. Same for guys who want to grown up and marry mom. The exchanges in such relationships is not unlike flirting ... although again in a restrained and not sexual way.

It's seems perfectly normal for a parent to admire the person their son or daughter has blossomed into. I'm sure they are proud that they acquire a high status in the species by being especially beautiful, beguiling, smart, a posssessor of conveted D cups, a great butt or an nine-incher.

Healthy Parent-child relationships are not devoid of sensual undertones. No one has to go as far as Oedipus or Woody Allen. The risk is always there that some moral defect will arise and push someone over the line (watch the movie War Zone). But those are the horrible exceptions that make people loathe to confess that a beautiful, nurturing sensuality can exist between mother and son; father and daughter.

I like Beyonce's song Daddy. She's totally flirting with him, singing in this high, breathy sensual voice (especially the line when she says "I remember the look on your face when you found I had a boyfriend).There's a point at the end that is almost orgasmic when she sings "I love you. DADDY" in a really high scream.

People can't fathom sensuality without sexuality. But if more daughters and sons shared that intimate appreciation with their dads and moms there would probably be less sluts and man-whores because people would grow up confident with a healthy sense of themselves as sensual human beings -- they wouldn't be in such a desperate hurry to become sexual human beings.

It's such a taboo subject to discuss parent-child intimacy and sensuality. Some will never get it or will always malign it. That's understandable because society has always been filed with primarily disfunctional families. I doubt many people have fully close relationships with parents of the opposite sex. It's so trendy now to hate your moms and dads once you become a teen and develop sensually ... so it's hard for parents to be an influence during that crucial phase of development.

I think the relationships knowles and simpson share with their daughters are beautiful
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Reply #38 posted 04/01/05 11:10am

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TonyVanDam said:

PurpleCharm said:

Yes, Joe Simpson is f*cking creepy. So is Beyonce's dad, Matthew Knowles. Speaking of perverted celebrity dads, Steven Tyler had his daughter, Liv, in one of his videos playing the role of a pole dancer. confused


Case in point: Until 2003, Steven & Liv use to wear the SAME pant size. And yes, Dad use to wear his daughter's jeans!!!


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Reply #39 posted 04/01/05 11:13am

MIGUELGOMEZ

SynthiaRose said:

There is always a harmless, healthy latent romance between parents and their children of opposite sex. It's not perverted or sexual, although it is sensual. Only a person with a defect would cross that thin line.

Man, I wish there were a psychologist on board to explain.

For girls who are close to their dads; he's like their first boyfriend and always will be. Same for guys who want to grown up and marry mom. The exchanges in such relationships is not unlike flirting ... although again in a restrained and not sexual way.

It's seems perfectly normal for a parent to admire the person their son or daughter has blossomed into. I'm sure they are proud that they acquire a high status in the species by being especially beautiful, beguiling, smart, a posssessor of conveted D cups, a great butt or an nine-incher.

Healthy Parent-child relationships are not devoid of sensual undertones. No one has to go as far as Oedipus or Woody Allen. The risk is always there that some moral defect will arise and push someone over the line (watch the movie War Zone). But those are the horrible exceptions that make people loathe to confess that a beautiful, nurturing sensuality can exist between mother and son; father and daughter.

I like Beyonce's song Daddy. She's totally flirting with him, singing in this high, breathy sensual voice (especially the line when she says "I remember the look on your face when you found I had a boyfriend).There's a point at the end that is almost orgasmic when she sings "I love you. DADDY" in a really high scream.

People can't fathom sensuality without sexuality. But if more daughters and sons shared that intimate appreciation with their dads and moms there would probably be less sluts and man-whores because people would grow up confident with a healthy sense of themselves as sensual human beings -- they wouldn't be in such a desperate hurry to become sexual human beings.

It's such a taboo subject to discuss parent-child intimacy and sensuality. Some will never get it or will always malign it. That's understandable because society has always been filed with primarily disfunctional families. I doubt many people have fully close relationships with parents of the opposite sex. It's so trendy now to hate your moms and dads once you become a teen and develop sensually ... so it's hard for parents to be an influence during that crucial phase of development.

I think the relationships knowles and simpson share with their daughters are beautiful




I need one of those SILKWOOD wash downs.


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Reply #40 posted 04/01/05 11:33am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

SynthiaRose said:

There is always a harmless, healthy latent romance between parents and their children of opposite sex. It's not perverted or sexual, although it is sensual. Only a person with a defect would cross that thin line.

Man, I wish there were a psychologist on board to explain.

For girls who are close to their dads; he's like their first boyfriend and always will be. Same for guys who want to grown up and marry mom. The exchanges in such relationships is not unlike flirting ... although again in a restrained and not sexual way.

It's seems perfectly normal for a parent to admire the person their son or daughter has blossomed into. I'm sure they are proud that they acquire a high status in the species by being especially beautiful, beguiling, smart, a posssessor of conveted D cups, a great butt or an nine-incher.

Healthy Parent-child relationships are not devoid of sensual undertones. No one has to go as far as Oedipus or Woody Allen. The risk is always there that some moral defect will arise and push someone over the line (watch the movie War Zone). But those are the horrible exceptions that make people loathe to confess that a beautiful, nurturing sensuality can exist between mother and son; father and daughter.

I like Beyonce's song Daddy. She's totally flirting with him, singing in this high, breathy sensual voice (especially the line when she says "I remember the look on your face when you found I had a boyfriend).There's a point at the end that is almost orgasmic when she sings "I love you. DADDY" in a really high scream.

People can't fathom sensuality without sexuality. But if more daughters and sons shared that intimate appreciation with their dads and moms there would probably be less sluts and man-whores because people would grow up confident with a healthy sense of themselves as sensual human beings -- they wouldn't be in such a desperate hurry to become sexual human beings.

It's such a taboo subject to discuss parent-child intimacy and sensuality. Some will never get it or will always malign it. That's understandable because society has always been filed with primarily disfunctional families. I doubt many people have fully close relationships with parents of the opposite sex. It's so trendy now to hate your moms and dads once you become a teen and develop sensually ... so it's hard for parents to be an influence during that crucial phase of development.

I think the relationships knowles and simpson share with their daughters are beautiful




I need one of those SILKWOOD wash downs.


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Reply #41 posted 04/01/05 11:34am

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SynthiaRose said:

There is always a harmless, healthy latent romance between parents and their children of opposite sex. It's not perverted or sexual, although it is sensual. Only a person with a defect would cross that thin line.

Man, I wish there were a psychologist on board to explain.

For girls who are close to their dads; he's like their first boyfriend and always will be. Same for guys who want to grown up and marry mom. The exchanges in such relationships is not unlike flirting ... although again in a restrained and not sexual way.

It's seems perfectly normal for a parent to admire the person their son or daughter has blossomed into. I'm sure they are proud that they acquire a high status in the species by being especially beautiful, beguiling, smart, a posssessor of conveted D cups, a great butt or an nine-incher.

Healthy Parent-child relationships are not devoid of sensual undertones. No one has to go as far as Oedipus or Woody Allen. The risk is always there that some moral defect will arise and push someone over the line (watch the movie War Zone). But those are the horrible exceptions that make people loathe to confess that a beautiful, nurturing sensuality can exist between mother and son; father and daughter.

I like Beyonce's song Daddy. She's totally flirting with him, singing in this high, breathy sensual voice (especially the line when she says "I remember the look on your face when you found I had a boyfriend).There's a point at the end that is almost orgasmic when she sings "I love you. DADDY" in a really high scream.

People can't fathom sensuality without sexuality. But if more daughters and sons shared that intimate appreciation with their dads and moms there would probably be less sluts and man-whores because people would grow up confident with a healthy sense of themselves as sensual human beings -- they wouldn't be in such a desperate hurry to become sexual human beings.

It's such a taboo subject to discuss parent-child intimacy and sensuality. Some will never get it or will always malign it. That's understandable because society has always been filed with primarily disfunctional families. I doubt many people have fully close relationships with parents of the opposite sex. It's so trendy now to hate your moms and dads once you become a teen and develop sensually ... so it's hard for parents to be an influence during that crucial phase of development.

I think the relationships knowles and simpson share with their daughters are beautiful


Interesting, I would like to see more responses to this.
[Edited 4/1/05 11:35am]
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Reply #42 posted 04/01/05 11:42am

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lilgish said:

SynthiaRose said:

There is always a harmless, healthy latent romance between parents and their children of opposite sex. It's not perverted or sexual, although it is sensual. Only a person with a defect would cross that thin line.

Man, I wish there were a psychologist on board to explain.

For girls who are close to their dads; he's like their first boyfriend and always will be. Same for guys who want to grown up and marry mom. The exchanges in such relationships is not unlike flirting ... although again in a restrained and not sexual way.

It's seems perfectly normal for a parent to admire the person their son or daughter has blossomed into. I'm sure they are proud that they acquire a high status in the species by being especially beautiful, beguiling, smart, a posssessor of conveted D cups, a great butt or an nine-incher.

Healthy Parent-child relationships are not devoid of sensual undertones. No one has to go as far as Oedipus or Woody Allen. The risk is always there that some moral defect will arise and push someone over the line (watch the movie War Zone). But those are the horrible exceptions that make people loathe to confess that a beautiful, nurturing sensuality can exist between mother and son; father and daughter.

I like Beyonce's song Daddy. She's totally flirting with him, singing in this high, breathy sensual voice (especially the line when she says "I remember the look on your face when you found I had a boyfriend).There's a point at the end that is almost orgasmic when she sings "I love you. DADDY" in a really high scream.

People can't fathom sensuality without sexuality. But if more daughters and sons shared that intimate appreciation with their dads and moms there would probably be less sluts and man-whores because people would grow up confident with a healthy sense of themselves as sensual human beings -- they wouldn't be in such a desperate hurry to become sexual human beings.

It's such a taboo subject to discuss parent-child intimacy and sensuality. Some will never get it or will always malign it. That's understandable because society has always been filed with primarily disfunctional families. I doubt many people have fully close relationships with parents of the opposite sex. It's so trendy now to hate your moms and dads once you become a teen and develop sensually ... so it's hard for parents to be an influence during that crucial phase of development.

I think the relationships knowles and simpson share with their daughters are beautiful


Interesting, I would like to see more responses to this.
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Reply #43 posted 04/01/05 11:43am

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It's that whole Oedipal and Elektra Complex thing.


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Reply #44 posted 04/01/05 11:46am

RipHer2Shreds

lilgish said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


If a mom said, "My son's crotch is too big for Christian music," would you find that perverse?

Why change the sex? Does heterosexuality denote possible sexual proclivity to ones own children of the opposite sex? If the father made a reference about his son’s crotch, would we be so quick to call him a pervert?

Anyway, that would never happen. The crouch doesn’t protrude out as much as breasts do. Female artists are judged on every part of their body. I don’t know anything about "Christian music" (except that it sucks), but some of those repressed folks woulda definitely made Jessica’s rack an issue.

I really don’t understand that comment by the father though, it’s not like she’s Dolly Parton, they could easily holster those puppies into place. Maybe the guys is a pervert, I haven’t seen the show.

Perhaps I should have made the sarcasm a little more obvious.
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Reply #45 posted 04/01/05 11:47am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

It's that whole Oedipal and Elektra Complex thing.


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Reply #46 posted 04/01/05 11:52am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

lilgish said:


Why change the sex? Does heterosexuality denote possible sexual proclivity to ones own children of the opposite sex? If the father made a reference about his son’s crotch, would we be so quick to call him a pervert?

Anyway, that would never happen. The crouch doesn’t protrude out as much as breasts do. Female artists are judged on every part of their body. I don’t know anything about "Christian music" (except that it sucks), but some of those repressed folks woulda definitely made Jessica’s rack an issue.

I really don’t understand that comment by the father though, it’s not like she’s Dolly Parton, they could easily holster those puppies into place. Maybe the guys is a pervert, I haven’t seen the show.

Perhaps I should have made the sarcasm a little more obvious.



square sorry, it's sparking interesting comments though.
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Reply #47 posted 04/01/05 11:58am

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yeah, that family is just dysfunctional and nasty. i mean, did u guys see that one episode when ashlee and jessica had lesbian incest while joe was filming it and jerkoff ?
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Reply #48 posted 04/01/05 11:59am

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vanity69 said:

yeah, that family is just dysfunctional and nasty. i mean, did u guys see that one episode when ashlee and jessica had lesbian incest while joe was filming it and jerkoff ?


shocked omfg You've GOT to be makin' that up.
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Reply #49 posted 04/01/05 2:09pm

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DUH! That's why I call him CreepyPaSimp.
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Reply #50 posted 04/02/05 12:57am

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isobelfq said:

CalhounSq said:



I really hope we never meet in person 'cause I'd beat your fuckin' ass for even suggesting that I'd put a child in harms way over this fucking bullshit. finger



now i really hope you never have children, daughters or sons. hrmph no no no!


You're being a total ass chair
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Reply #51 posted 04/02/05 1:04am

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SynthiaRose said:

There is always a harmless, healthy latent romance between parents and their children of opposite sex. It's not perverted or sexual, although it is sensual. Only a person with a defect would cross that thin line.

Man, I wish there were a psychologist on board to explain.

For girls who are close to their dads; he's like their first boyfriend and always will be. Same for guys who want to grown up and marry mom. The exchanges in such relationships is not unlike flirting ... although again in a restrained and not sexual way.

It's seems perfectly normal for a parent to admire the person their son or daughter has blossomed into. I'm sure they are proud that they acquire a high status in the species by being especially beautiful, beguiling, smart, a posssessor of conveted D cups, a great butt or an nine-incher.

Healthy Parent-child relationships are not devoid of sensual undertones. No one has to go as far as Oedipus or Woody Allen. The risk is always there that some moral defect will arise and push someone over the line (watch the movie War Zone). But those are the horrible exceptions that make people loathe to confess that a beautiful, nurturing sensuality can exist between mother and son; father and daughter.

I like Beyonce's song Daddy. She's totally flirting with him, singing in this high, breathy sensual voice (especially the line when she says "I remember the look on your face when you found I had a boyfriend).There's a point at the end that is almost orgasmic when she sings "I love you. DADDY" in a really high scream.

People can't fathom sensuality without sexuality. But if more daughters and sons shared that intimate appreciation with their dads and moms there would probably be less sluts and man-whores because people would grow up confident with a healthy sense of themselves as sensual human beings -- they wouldn't be in such a desperate hurry to become sexual human beings.

It's such a taboo subject to discuss parent-child intimacy and sensuality. Some will never get it or will always malign it. That's understandable because society has always been filed with primarily disfunctional families. I doubt many people have fully close relationships with parents of the opposite sex. It's so trendy now to hate your moms and dads once you become a teen and develop sensually ... so it's hard for parents to be an influence during that crucial phase of development.

I think the relationships knowles and simpson share with their daughters are beautiful


Interesting hmmm

I think it's strange for folks to get SO freaked over a father making an OBSERVATION about his daughter's body in the fashion Joe Simpson did. It's like, "Oh my God! He noticed she has breasts! He's a perv!!" Just putting way too much on it. He's a parent, not a blind guy. He wasn't ogling her in the comment. Again, as for the ass slap that's a bit much but I saw nothing wrong w/ the breast comment. It wasn't sexual or sensual, it was factual neutral
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Reply #52 posted 04/02/05 6:16am

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I was watching the Ashlee Simpson show (don't ask) when I saw him slap Ashlee on her ASS. Now I don't see anything wrong with showing your children affection, but c'mon now slapping your 19-20 year old daughter on her ass that's just perverted. If you recall he pereviously made a commet about Jessica tits now he's slapping Ashlee on her ass, something is seriously wrong with this guy.



I agree! What makes this even more scary is that Joe used to be a minister before he quit to manage his daughters' careers. I can't believe that Joe's wife allows him to do these things. omg disbelief
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Reply #53 posted 04/02/05 6:22am

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guitarslinger44 said:

Has anyone ever noticed that Ashlee's ass crack is ALWAYS hanging out on the show? It seems like they always have to cover it up. I would think her father would tell her to pull her pants up but then again.... confused


lol Her dad probably likes having her ass crack showing. He probably gets excited by it. lol
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Reply #54 posted 04/02/05 6:28am

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lilgish said:



If the mother said it, would you find it perverse?

What is it with you and the mother. Again that is just unacceptable behavior from a parent. Being a father of both sex I've never made a comment about my daughter or son body parts. But to answer your question yes I would have a problem with it. As i said before it's about boundaries.


I agree. I don't have kids, but I can respect what you're saying. smile
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Reply #55 posted 04/02/05 12:55pm

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SynthiaRose said:

There is always a harmless, healthy latent romance between parents and their children of opposite sex. It's not perverted or sexual, although it is sensual. Only a person with a defect would cross that thin line.

Man, I wish there were a psychologist on board to explain.

For girls who are close to their dads; he's like their first boyfriend and always will be. Same for guys who want to grown up and marry mom. The exchanges in such relationships is not unlike flirting ... although again in a restrained and not sexual way.

It's seems perfectly normal for a parent to admire the person their son or daughter has blossomed into. I'm sure they are proud that they acquire a high status in the species by being especially beautiful, beguiling, smart, a posssessor of conveted D cups, a great butt or an nine-incher.

Healthy Parent-child relationships are not devoid of sensual undertones. No one has to go as far as Oedipus or Woody Allen. The risk is always there that some moral defect will arise and push someone over the line (watch the movie War Zone). But those are the horrible exceptions that make people loathe to confess that a beautiful, nurturing sensuality can exist between mother and son; father and daughter.

I like Beyonce's song Daddy. She's totally flirting with him, singing in this high, breathy sensual voice (especially the line when she says "I remember the look on your face when you found I had a boyfriend).There's a point at the end that is almost orgasmic when she sings "I love you. DADDY" in a really high scream.

People can't fathom sensuality without sexuality. But if more daughters and sons shared that intimate appreciation with their dads and moms there would probably be less sluts and man-whores because people would grow up confident with a healthy sense of themselves as sensual human beings -- they wouldn't be in such a desperate hurry to become sexual human beings.

It's such a taboo subject to discuss parent-child intimacy and sensuality. Some will never get it or will always malign it. That's understandable because society has always been filed with primarily disfunctional families. I doubt many people have fully close relationships with parents of the opposite sex. It's so trendy now to hate your moms and dads once you become a teen and develop sensually ... so it's hard for parents to be an influence during that crucial phase of development.

I think the relationships knowles and simpson share with their daughters are beautiful


Keep in mind that I'm very single with no kids.

Daughters (at any age) will always be daddy's little girls/princesses.

But since when men started telling their daughters how sexy they look? Here's an example:

Little girl, you're are fine with a beautiful booti, a good set of breasts & juicy lips just like your mother. But please pull your jeans up like you have some class. And go light on the make-up. I'm your father & a real man. And I'm telling you that boys have no respect for girls that don't respect themselves. So trust me on this! cool
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Reply #56 posted 04/02/05 3:57pm

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TonyVanDam said:

But since when men started telling their daughters how sexy they look?


WHEN did he tell Jessica how sexy she looked? WHAT did he say exactly?
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Reply #57 posted 04/02/05 11:30pm

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CalhounSq said:

TonyVanDam said:

But since when men started telling their daughters how sexy they look?


WHEN did he tell Jessica how sexy she looked? WHAT did he say exactly?


He didn't (AKAIK). THAT was only an example to get people to think about what parents should and/or shouldn't say & do in their relationship with their children.

Certain lines should never be cross.

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