ehuffnsd said:

that's cute
What made you want the tape, like which songs encourged you to buy it

and was your mother shocked to see Janet topless?????

ehuffnsd said:

that's cute
What made you want the tape, like which songs encourged you to buy it

and was your mother shocked to see Janet topless?????

GrayKing said:

Please link me to threads containing whatever epic arguments you're referencing - I haven't chatted with you in forever.
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VoicesCarry said:

senile at 19? goodness

VinnyM27 said:

I think the best song on 'Damita Jo' is "Just A Little While",which Jam and Lewis had nothing to do with.Perhaps Janet should have hired Dallas as the main producer,and went in a more pop/rock direction? His rock songs are great (remember TLC's "Unpretty" or Pink's "Just Like A Pill"?).That would have been more interesting than the run-of-the-mill R&B that dominates most of her album.

RipHer2Shreds said:

VoicesCarry said:

This picture is awful. It looks like it should be air brushed on the hood of a Trans Am.

I just listened to "All For YOu" again and I offically love it and prefer it over not only DJ but "janet." as well. It was pretty consistant and dispite only one stinker IMHO ("Trust A Try" is basically a more boring "You" and that song wasn't all that great...should have only done it once). That being said, there are a lot of really good songs on the album but ohter than the title track, nothing really amazing (maybe "Feels So Right"). DJ had a few awesome songs, again IMHO, like "All Nite", "SloLove", "Damita Jo" and "Like You Don't Love Me" but some baadd garbage as well ("Island LIfe", "Warmth", "My Baby"...cringe). Not to slam on DJ to hard, but I'm definately back in love with AFY again after criticizing it for a while.

Island Life is garbage? That Scott Storch beat is hot and the chorus is ace!

VoicesCarry said:

I definitely don't think it's "garbage", but you have to admit that it's just Runaway for '04 (when Runaway was Escapade for '95). I do think that the album gets really good starting with Island Life - Like You Don't Love Me. This is a better stretch of songs than AFY had; although the interludes have gotten so preposterous, and now some of them are even attached to songs (that stupid shit at the end of R&B Junkie and I Want You is just ) Honestly, I've never heard Janet sound more drugged up than on this CD. She sounds like Laura Bush.

The only interlude-ish thing I like on the record is the, "Can we slow it down? I just wanna dance with my baby" at the end of R&B Junkie. I thought it was a nice transition to I Want You.

But yeah, there is a stretch there that indicates it could have been a good record, perhaps. If they had only cut about half of it (see my ideal tracklisting above).

VoicesCarry said:

Yeah that one's not so bad, but it reminds me of that stupid voice that Madonna uses in the beginning of Music. Plus, Janet sounds like she's just snorted some Oxycontin or popped a few Xanax. Wake up woman!

Then again, you've said you don't like pop music much, so you probably tend to lump it all into the same category. Much as I lump many U2 songs into the "it all sounds the same" category.
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Axchi696 said:

I'd rather hear a medicated Janet than Madonna's self-satisfied snarl.

squiddyren said:

It's more like her producers are "stuck in a rut". Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis haven't done anything "fresh" since "Janet" and "The Velvet Rope". They haven't even been producing any other artist as of late. When was the last time they produced a artist besides Janet.
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Let's face it: The interludes are probably not going to go. That's ok, because I always burn a copy of her CD's (excluding RN) with the interludes deleted. If the music is good, I'll forgive her the indulgence of interludes.

I actually like All For You. It grew on me. There are some great tracks on there. The title track, Come On Get Up, Trust A Try, Feels So Right, Better Days, You Ain't Right, When We Oooo, Not so much Damita Jo, though. She needs to stop trying to recapture the lightning in a bottle that was Any Time, Any Place - no more shitty slow-jams with the thunderstorm sounds.

The PROBLEM is simple to FIX: don't make your albums 25 tracks long! Less is more when it comes to contemporary R&B records. Honestly, what if Damita Jo had just included:

-Strawberry Bounce
-Spending Time With You
-Island Life
-R&B Junkie
-I Want You
-All Nite (Don't Stop)
-Like You Don't Love Me
-Thinkin' Bout My Ex
-SloLove
-Just A Little While

Would have been a hell of a lot better, no?

We'll see. I still think The Velvet Rope is her best, and she probably won't top it.
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seanski said:

Exactly.Jam and Lewis ran out of ideas over a decade ago.It's time for Janet to move on.

DavidEye said:

Your right. Janet making another sex-themed R&B album will fail since every pop singer is doing the same thing.

Here's a review that I agree about the album.

Review by Stephen Thomas Erlewine

"Relax, it's just sex," Janet Jackson murmurs at the conclusion of "Sexhibition," the third song on her eighth album, Damita Jo. Those words were recorded long before Jackson wound up America with her breast-baring exploits at the halftime show at the 2004 Super Bowl, but they nevertheless play like an casual response to the hysteria that engulfed the nation following her infamous "wardrobe malfunction." But, really, they're there to head off any criticism that could be leveled at Damita Jo, yet another album that finds Janet exploring her sexuality, a voyage she's been on for about 11 years (Magellan and his crew circled the globe in a third that time, but hey, who's counting?). While sex indisputably fuels much great pop music, it isn't an inherently fascinating topic for pop music — as with anything, it all depends on the artist. Prince, of course, found an endless amount of ways to write intriguingly about sex, since it fired his imagination, a quality that has been missing on Janet's albums since 1993's janet.. With its preponderance of slow-tempo, sensual grooves, sexual imagery, occasional up-tempo jams, and endless spoken interludes, it provided the blueprint for every record she made since, from the heavy eroticism of 1997's The Velvet Rope to the bedroom sighs of 2001's All for You. The latter suggested that she was abandoning the explicitness of The Velvet Rope, but Damita Jo proves that she was merely flirting with modesty, since it's as explicit as pop music gets. Actually, it's the aural equivalent of hardcore pornography — it leaves nothing to the imagination and it's endlessly repetitive. Like a porn star, Janet adopts an alter ego built on her middle name ("There's another side that you will never know: Damita Jo"), provides detailed oral-sex manuals with "Warmth" and "Moist," nicknames her clitoris, and tosses around allusions to a variety of taboo sex acts; in this context, all the interview snippets scattered throughout the record — "I love curling up with a good book and relaxing by the ocean with my baby," "When you look at me, do you want me?" — recall nothing less than a Playboy or Penthouse centerfold confessing her turn-ons. Such doggedly literal lyrics lack any sensuality, and weigh Damita Jo down. If the music had its own sensuality or spark, it'd be easier to forgive or overlook Jackson's whispered vulgarities, but the album's slow grooves blend together, lacking rhythmic or melodic hooks. Jackson disappears into the productions, once again largely the responsibility of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, becoming part of the arrangement instead of standing in front of it. And while there are a couple of cuts that do cut through the slow-groove loops — on the slower side, "I Want You" has a verse that's memorable, while "Just a Little While" is a good dance tune — they pale next to the hits from All for You; that they stand out on Damita Jo says more about the album than the songs themselves. Ironically, for an album with so much sex on its mind, it's not a good make-out record because its grooves are cold and Janet's ceaseless dirty talk spoils whatever mood the music had struggled to create. Once, Ms. Jackson's sexual obsession was indeed sexy and erotic, but by this point, it's not just tired, it's embarrassing.

VoicesCarry said:

Well, I'm not going to get into another Madonna vs. Janet argument here, but I'd pick the opposite. Madonna's not so bad; besides, it's just another example of Janet copying Madonna . This time, Madonna was the first to steal that line from some other artist (can't remember her name now) and Janet-always-the-bridesmaid-never-the-bride Jackson then used it .

The only interlude-ish thing I like on the record is the, "Can we slow it down? I just wanna dance with my baby" at the end of R&B Junkie. I thought it was a nice transition to I Want You.

VinnyM27 said:

Island Life is garbage? That Scott Storch beat is hot and the chorus is ace!

seanski said:

Put The Neptunes as the Jam/Lewis replacements. Then (and only then) will Janet's music career be save!!!

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