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Reply #60 posted 03/01/05 1:02pm

sextonseven

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CynicKill said:

WhamBamGlamSlam said:

I take it for the fluffy pop it is. On those terms, it does much more for me than Britney Spears. My only issues with it are the umpteenth use of the "Fiddler" song, the rehashed sample of "Between the Sheets" (though Luxurious pulls it off well) and Hollaback Girl. Hate that song. I also think the remix of What You Waiting For trumps the original track. Not the best album I've ever heard, certainly not the worst.


I LOVE that remix!


Which remix is that? I've seen three circulating on vinyl: Armand Van Helden, Felix da Housecat and Jacques Lu Cont.

Jacques Lu Cont did a really good job. I haven't heard a remix by him yet that I didn't like. He deserved that best remix grammy this year.
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Reply #61 posted 03/01/05 1:03pm

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You could insert earplugs and leave right after Cyndi's bit giggle



lol But I'd still have to live with the fact that I purchased tickets to a Cher show. Deep down, that's gotta do some psychological damage. nutty

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And if you woulda seen her open for Cher, you would have seen just that! She opened the set wtih Money Changes Everything.


No shit! That would've been great! Does she still rock it, or does she do it acoustically? I saw her on TV a few years ago playing some sort of harp or something, she was doing a set of her old stuff and it was all really downtempo. I was afraid that maybe that's how she performs now.


I saw some footage of Cher's concert and she was rocking it - going into the audience, up and down the aisles, etc. at the same time. She's very interactive at her concerts.
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Reply #62 posted 03/01/05 1:05pm

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That song is amazing. Cyndi has covered several songs in a superior way, and that's one of them. The other is I Drove All Night. I still don't think anyone's surpassed her version.

Celine Dion's kills Cyndi's version. wink
I love I Drove All Night. Her voice is so strong on it, particularly toward the end when she hits that high note. I have fond memories of that song, because around the time that song was popular, I got to talk to her on the phone for a quick minute or two. smile It made me happy.


biggrin Cool story. For me, her vocals have just the right sexy edge required for that song. I mean you can't sing it like Roy Orbison or Celine - all innocent-like with no inflection or lust. The arrangement was sultry, too, which was appropriate. It was a big hit.
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Reply #63 posted 03/01/05 1:05pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

Celine Dion's kills Cyndi's version. wink


omg
I love I Drove All Night. Her voice is so strong on it, particularly toward the end when she hits that high note. I have fond memories of that song, because around the time that song was popular, I got to talk to her on the phone for a quick minute or two. smile It made me happy.



Did you talk to Cyndi on the phone or Celine Dion?
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Reply #64 posted 03/01/05 1:06pm

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Axchi696 said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

Celine Dion's kills Cyndi's version. wink


omg
I love I Drove All Night. Her voice is so strong on it, particularly toward the end when she hits that high note. I have fond memories of that song, because around the time that song was popular, I got to talk to her on the phone for a quick minute or two. smile It made me happy.



Did you talk to Cyndi on the phone or Celine Dion?


lol He be joking about the Celine thing.
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Reply #65 posted 03/01/05 1:08pm

CynicKill

sextonseven said:

CynicKill said:



I LOVE that remix!


Which remix is that? I've seen three circulating on vinyl: Armand Van Helden, Felix da Housecat and Jacques Lu Cont.

Jacques Lu Cont did a really good job. I haven't heard a remix by him yet that I didn't like. He deserved that best remix grammy this year.



I'm not sure. The one I heard has a lot of "tick-tocks" in it if that helps.
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Reply #66 posted 03/01/05 1:08pm

CynicKill

I know people who actually like Celine's version and have never heard Cyndi's.
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Reply #67 posted 03/01/05 1:09pm

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Axchi696 said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

Celine Dion's kills Cyndi's version. wink


omg
I love I Drove All Night. Her voice is so strong on it, particularly toward the end when she hits that high note. I have fond memories of that song, because around the time that song was popular, I got to talk to her on the phone for a quick minute or two. smile It made me happy.



Did you talk to Cyndi on the phone or Celine Dion?

The Celine comment was a joke, and I talked with Cyndi on the phone. It wasn't a huge deal. She was in town promoting the album and stopped in to one of the local radio stations (WLOL, I believe). They asked for people to call in with questions, but I didn't realize I would be asking her directly. I was 15 and dumb and asked her why she changed her look and went for the platinum blonde. She was very sweet, talked for a bit, said she just got bored with her hair and told me to buy the album since I loved the song so much. lol Then she thanked me with that cute accent. As a star-struck 15-year-old, it made my day and week and month and year.
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Reply #68 posted 03/01/05 1:11pm

VoicesCarry

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I know people who actually like Celine's version and have never heard Cyndi's.


They must be exterminated. eek mad
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Reply #69 posted 03/01/05 1:12pm

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VoicesCarry said:[quote]

Axchi696 said:



I saw some footage of Cher's concert and she was rocking it - going into the audience, up and down the aisles, etc. at the same time. She's very interactive at her concerts.


I saw her concert on tv too and it was not bad. I love how she interacts with the audience and her clothes are off the hook. But to be honest, I think Cher has a terrible voice. Very strained and no real range. I have always loved her but I've never been a fan of her singing. I wouldn't walk across the street to see her in concert with all those crazy wigs and terrible songs. I'd much rather see her acting whether it be drama or comedy. She's really quite funny and we all know she can act her ass off when she gets a good script. She's someone I've admired for many years, but I have to say I'm glad she's retiring from singing. Hopefully she'll make some great movies again.
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Reply #70 posted 03/01/05 1:14pm

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I know people who actually like Celine's version and have never heard Cyndi's.



disbelief What's wrong with people nowadays. About 5 or 6 years back, I had a friend that was in love with this cover of Time After Time or True Colors (I can't remember now), and she had no idea that it was a remake. I couldn't believe it. It's like when Edge of Seventeen or Ventura Highway come on the radio and people ask who covered a Beyonce or Janet Jackson song. omfg
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Reply #71 posted 03/01/05 1:16pm

VoicesCarry

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VoicesCarry said:

Axchi696 said:



I saw some footage of Cher's concert and she was rocking it - going into the audience, up and down the aisles, etc. at the same time. She's very interactive at her concerts.


I saw her concert on tv too and it was not bad. I love how she interacts with the audience and her clothes are off the hook. But to be honest, I think Cher has a terrible voice. Very strained and no real range. I have always loved her but I've never been a fan of her singing. I wouldn't walk across the street to see her in concert with all those crazy wigs and terrible songs. I'd much rather see her acting whether it be drama or comedy. She's really quite funny and we all know she can act her ass off when she gets a good script. She's someone I've admired for many years, but I have to say I'm glad she's retiring from singing. Hopefully she'll make some great movies again.


I was talking about Cyndi as Cher's opening act, not Cher herself - don't know if you realized that or not. biggrin
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Reply #72 posted 03/01/05 1:16pm

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Axchi696 said:

CynicKill said:

I know people who actually like Celine's version and have never heard Cyndi's.



disbelief What's wrong with people nowadays. About 5 or 6 years back, I had a friend that was in love with this cover of Time After Time or True Colors (I can't remember now), and she had no idea that it was a remake. I couldn't believe it. It's like when Edge of Seventeen or Ventura Highway come on the radio and people ask who covered a Beyonce or Janet Jackson song. omfg


lol, I remember when I was young and ignorant like that.
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Reply #73 posted 03/01/05 1:18pm

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VoicesCarry said:

kisscamille said:



I saw her concert on tv too and it was not bad. I love how she interacts with the audience and her clothes are off the hook. But to be honest, I think Cher has a terrible voice. Very strained and no real range. I have always loved her but I've never been a fan of her singing. I wouldn't walk across the street to see her in concert with all those crazy wigs and terrible songs. I'd much rather see her acting whether it be drama or comedy. She's really quite funny and we all know she can act her ass off when she gets a good script. She's someone I've admired for many years, but I have to say I'm glad she's retiring from singing. Hopefully she'll make some great movies again.


I was talking about Cyndi as Cher's opening act, not Cher herself - don't know if you realized that or not. biggrin


No, sorry I didn't realize that. Thought you were talking about Cher's farewell tour that's been on tv.
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Reply #74 posted 03/01/05 1:19pm

VoicesCarry

Axchi696 said:

CynicKill said:

I know people who actually like Celine's version and have never heard Cyndi's.



disbelief What's wrong with people nowadays. About 5 or 6 years back, I had a friend that was in love with this cover of Time After Time or True Colors (I can't remember now), and she had no idea that it was a remake. I couldn't believe it. It's like when Edge of Seventeen or Ventura Highway come on the radio and people ask who covered a Beyonce or Janet Jackson song. omfg


Symptoms of not knowing your musical history, I guess shrug

I swear whenever one of these people use a sample there should be a big 10-second plug for the original artist at the start of the video: "THIS IS ACTUALLY A STEVIE NICKS SONG, BUT THE ORIGINAL IS WAAAAAY BETTER. YOU CAN CHECK IT OUT ON (INSERT ALBUM). BAYAWNSAY GOT NOTHING ON STEVIE, MMMMKAY?"
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Reply #75 posted 03/01/05 1:20pm

VoicesCarry

kisscamille said:

VoicesCarry said:



I was talking about Cyndi as Cher's opening act, not Cher herself - don't know if you realized that or not. biggrin


No, sorry I didn't realize that. Thought you were talking about Cher's farewell tour that's been on tv.


Oh, nope. Never watched a Cher concert, doubt I ever will giggle
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Reply #76 posted 03/01/05 1:25pm

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Which remix is that? I've seen three circulating on vinyl: Armand Van Helden, Felix da Housecat and Jacques Lu Cont.

Jacques Lu Cont did a really good job. I haven't heard a remix by him yet that I didn't like. He deserved that best remix grammy this year.



I'm not sure. The one I heard has a lot of "tick-tocks" in it if that helps.


I was referring to the Jacques Lu Cont(Stuart Price) remix. I don't think he was nominated for a grammy this year.
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Reply #77 posted 03/01/05 1:26pm

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Symptoms of not knowing your musical history, I guess shrug

I swear whenever one of these people use a sample there should be a big 10-second plug for the original artist at the start of the video: "THIS IS ACTUALLY A STEVIE NICKS SONG, BUT THE ORIGINAL IS WAAAAAY BETTER. YOU CAN CHECK IT OUT ON (INSERT ALBUM). BAYAWNSAY GOT NOTHING ON STEVIE, MMMMKAY?"



I actually think that Gwen Stefani's entire album should come with one of those disclaimers. "If you like this, then check out where she jacked it from: New Order, Depeche Mode, Madonna, The Cars, etc..."
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Reply #78 posted 03/01/05 1:28pm

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i'm still loving it! admittedly, i don't listen to it as much as i did for the first few months but that's mostly because of u2 (and more recently, tori amos). i always play it at the gym and usually on my way to work; it gets me happy and hyper. i never considered it a brilliant commentary type record so i don't have a problem with the fluff. i'm a fan of madonna's, a fan of janet's, a fan of michael's...yes, these artists have made some serious records and occasionally include a seious song on a standard pop record but barring those select few tracks/albums, they make fluff. if i wanted dylan or mitchell-esque lyrics i'd put on blue or blood on the tracks.

everybody has their thing though. my ipod is on random all the time and it jumps from tori amos to the spice girls to eno and back again. gwen's record has a place and when i'm needing that mood i love to play it.
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Reply #79 posted 03/01/05 1:28pm

kisscamille

VoicesCarry said:

kisscamille said:



No, sorry I didn't realize that. Thought you were talking about Cher's farewell tour that's been on tv.


Oh, nope. Never watched a Cher concert, doubt I ever will giggle


I know what you mean. I have to admit that it was a hoot, but I wouldn't pay to see her in concert.
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Reply #80 posted 03/01/05 1:31pm

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Oh, nope. Never watched a Cher concert, doubt I ever will giggle


I know what you mean. I have to admit that it was a hoot, but I wouldn't pay to see her in concert.



I know South Park said that Stevie Nicks sounded like a goat, but when I picture a Cher concert, I just imagine




onstage surrounded by a ton of bubbles, stupid hair, and dancing guys. Not a pretty picture.
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Reply #81 posted 03/01/05 1:33pm

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WhamBamGlamSlam said:

Which remix is that? I've seen three circulating on vinyl: Armand Van Helden, Felix da Housecat and Jacques Lu Cont.

Jacques Lu Cont did a really good job. I haven't heard a remix by him yet that I didn't like. He deserved that best remix grammy this year.



I'm not sure. The one I heard has a lot of "tick-tocks" in it if that helps.


I was referring to the Jacques Lu Cont(Stuart Price) remix. I don't think he was nominated for a grammy this year.


He was nominated for a grammy and won:

Best Remixed Recording, Non-Classical
(A Remixer's Award. (Artists names appear in parenthesis for identification.) Singles or Tracks only.)

* It's My Life (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix)
Jacques Lu Cont, remixer (No Doubt)

Track from: The Singles 1992-2003
[Interscope Records]
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Reply #82 posted 03/01/05 1:36pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Anyone else feel the same way?

It was great at first because I love the new wave sound and the 80's, and this is a record that revels in retro. But now I'm completely bored by it. It doesn't have the staying power of the best new wave tracks. This is probably becuase it feels like such a pastiche - as if the producers got together with Gwen, she told them she wanted to make a new wave record, and they gave her a selection of ten 80's albums. "Select one song from each album, and we'll make a sound-alike. Oh, you like 'Time After Time'? Well, we'll call it 'The Real Thing'." And so on.

It's meant to be a party record but for some reason it really isn't FUN. I think she sounds a tad bored on it - it lacks the spontaneity of the earlier No Doubt records. It isn't loose - everything's calculated. I'd take Beauty And The Beat over this any day.

And that fucking NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA hook on Rich Girl is truly grating.


After I bought "Kish Kash" by Basement Jaxx I realized what the real party record of the year was. If Gwen had put out KK she would've been saying something. I am a little bored with LAMB.



i've heard basement jaxx cd is good but what puts me off from buying it is that there are featured artists. i don't really like that. when i hear an album i like one vocalist on the entire album as a general rule. what is the album like? as for gwen's, i think it's good but i could see it getting played out quickly too.
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Reply #83 posted 03/01/05 1:43pm

CynicKill

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After I bought "Kish Kash" by Basement Jaxx I realized what the real party record of the year was. If Gwen had put out KK she would've been saying something. I am a little bored with LAMB.



i've heard basement jaxx cd is good but what puts me off from buying it is that there are featured artists. i don't really like that. when i hear an album i like one vocalist on the entire album as a general rule. what is the album like? as for gwen's, i think it's good but i could see it getting played out quickly too.


Oh. Well Bassment Jaxx has to have featured artist because they're producers. They're just keeping to the traditions of House. That's the style of the album. This one is very Princey in spots.
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Reply #84 posted 03/01/05 1:50pm

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He was nominated for a grammy and won:

Best Remixed Recording, Non-Classical
(A Remixer's Award. (Artists names appear in parenthesis for identification.) Singles or Tracks only.)

* It's My Life (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix)
Jacques Lu Cont, remixer (No Doubt)
Track from: The Singles 1992-2003


Glad to hear it. His remix of Hollywood is the jam.

I actually think that Gwen Stefani's entire album should come with one of those disclaimers. "If you like this, then check out where she jacked it from: New Order, Depeche Mode, Madonna, The Cars, etc..."


Kind of like the labels on Designer Impostors fragrances back in the day.
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Reply #85 posted 03/01/05 2:08pm

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Axchi696 said:




I actually think that Gwen Stefani's entire album should come with one of those disclaimers. "If you like this, then check out where she jacked it from: New Order, Depeche Mode, Madonna, The Cars, etc..."



thats just silly....then everyones cd's should come with crap like that. smile
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Reply #86 posted 03/01/05 2:11pm

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Kind of like the labels on Designer Impostors fragrances back in the day.


lawl!
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Reply #87 posted 03/01/05 2:13pm

CinisterCee

Anyways, I think everyone got their fill of L.I.S.P because we all bought it soon as it dropped.. this is as long as an "initial" stage of love for an album should last anyway. The real trick is to see if you come back to it later this summer.
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Reply #88 posted 03/01/05 2:14pm

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I gave my copy of LAMB to my friend and I think he has lost it boxed

I agree it got boring fast and I don't have the words
to describe how I feel about Hollaback Girls ill

I cant still jam to Return of Saturn though cool
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Reply #89 posted 03/01/05 2:27pm

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CinisterCee said:

WhamBamGlamSlam said:


Kind of like the labels on Designer Impostors fragrances back in the day.


lawl!


lol
cinny,what knock off fragrance you got on? i have the bootleg polo called "horses" smile
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