I made the mistake of buying Gwen's cd the day after I bought the new U2 cd; I've only recently taken How to Dismantle out of my stereo, and have only given the Gwen CD a cursory listen or two. What I have heard, I can't say impressed me that much. Rich Girl/Hollaback Girl are both just godawful. No Doubt always did pop-ish music, but there's a long way down from Sunday Morning and Bathwater to 'This shit is B-A-N-A-N-A-S".

Kylie Minogue's CD didn't do much of anything for me either; honestly. Granted, I'm not into dance pop much, but I can appreciate a killer single here and there. Love at First Sight was a great tune, it had a great beat, and the chorus was great pop. The Body Language album just seemed to mine the 80's thing that she had already gotten right on LAFS.

I still don't think that any of the 80's pop replications work half as well as the original songs from the 80's. I'll take Into The Groove any day over some rehash. I'd rather hear a Duran Duran original than a Killers xerox.

Anyway, to get back to my original point, I hope that Gwen gets back with No Doubt, because they really can make some great material together. I understand that she wanted to do a lightweight, fluffy album, and kudos to her for doing it. I just hope that she doesn't continue down this road.

jayaredee said:

Remember when Calhoun started the "I don't get this Kylie Minogue shit" thread and it went up to like 150 replies. That was a fun thread . He's obsessed with hating Kylie.

CalhounSq said:

You're cute when you're psycotic.

VoicesCarry said:

When I say I'm "Prince's Bottom Bitch" I mean it w/ all my heart & pussy

Don't mean to assist in turning this into a Kylie thread but I find her music quite addicting. It's nice to know there are non-Brits who like her too.

CalhounSq said:

Sorry, it's those cross-gender avatars. I suppose that's why sos only recently found out I wasn't a woman.

Don't mean to assist in turning this into a Kylie thread but I find her music quite addicting. It's nice to know there are non-Brits who like her too.

If No Doubt reunites they need to go back to the Return To Saturn mould. The best songs they ever did were on that record. Of course they probably won't, considering it wasn't exactly a blockbuster.

But they were veering towards crap with Rock Steady. Gwen likes her repeated soundbites doesn't she? Hey baby hey baby hey baby hey baby hey baby na na na na na na na na na - that'll be their next big hit.

VoicesCarry said:

Well, Hey Baby got really old fast. The rest of that CD isn't so bad, though. Hella Good might be the best pop song they ever did (although Ex-Girlfriend and Bathwater might give it a run for its money) and the rest of the album had a few winners too. Waiting Room was a better Prince song than So Far, So Pleased, IMO.

I get that Gwen's trying to be different now, but it just doesn't fit in now. In 1985, she may have gotten away with bringing those GODDAMN Harijuku Girls with her everywhere she went, but not in 2005. Her image right now reminds me a lot of Cyndi Lauper, whereas before she always seemed closer to Madonna. As much as I like Cyndi, the public really got tired of her antics quickly. I'm thinking that this might just do the same for Gwen.

I never thought it was a great album to begin with. Of course everyone on this site was overblowing the album and i bought it to be sadly disappointed.

The songwriting is very weak.
I see stronger lyrics in Hilary Duff's music and that is sad.

But the album is doing very well. It's currently number 15 on the Top 200.

"Select one song from each album, and we'll make a sound-alike.

But that's who Cyndi really was - it wasn't an act. She's gotten older but she's still just a kooky girl from the Bronx. That's what I've always loved about her, I guess - she seemed genuine.

The Harijuku thing I actually like. It's very Madonna, not that Madonna would be SOOO heavy-handed with it (Madonna's one misstep to me was the cowgirl chic thing she did for "Music" but I digress). At least she has an idea. It might have been a good idea to give her girls a different name instead of using Harijuku.

The Harijuku thing I actually like. It's very Madonna, not that Madonna would be SOOO heavy-handed with it (Madonna's one misstep to me was the cowgirl chic thing she did for "Music" but I digress). At least she has an idea. It might have been a good idea to give her girls a different name instead of using Harijuku.

VoicesCarry said:

Yeah I agree, I don't think Cyndi was being fake. By True Colors, people were already getting tired of the whole deal. I think the same thing happened to Pink. Her second CD (which I'm not even going to try to spell the title) was a huge hit, she had a slightly crazy image, and she had some good tunes. The follow-up CD was a better album (IMO), but her image had already soured, and people were moving on to the next thing. Gwen already had a fun image, but she also had an illusion of depth behind her. If she keeps this LAMB shit up, I fear that the public will just group her along with the Britneys of the world and get sick of her.

CynicKill said:

are you kidding? The cowgirl Madonna thing was huge. It was a hugely successful look for Madonna and very memerable

CynicKill said:

Madonna never would have done that, I guarantee it. She changes her image, she doesn't accessorize it like Gwen.

VoicesCarry said:

I agree, it reminds me more of Cyndi Lauper's pro-wrestling shit than Madonna's cowgirl look.

CynicKill said:

Madonna never would have done that, I guarantee it. She changes her image, she doesn't accessorize it like Gwen.

jayaredee said:

I'm not saying it wasn't successful, but to me it was the corniest of her incarnations. It did go over well. Those damn cowboy hats haunt me to this day.

Axchi696 said:

Cyndi still has a strong career, though - and she's a big live draw. Her voice is stronger than ever. I doubt someone like her would last more than 3 months in today's musical climate. I still think Gwen and Christina have been copying Cyndi's early-80's look to a certain extent. Gwen's voice sounded "off" to me on LAMB - compare it with her vocals on Return Of Saturn. Not really up to par.

When i went to see Cher live, Cyndi was the opening act.
she was fucking amazing, just her and her band. No glitz and glamour, just Cyndi

I ended up liking her more than Cher's bit

jayaredee said:

I wouldn't mind seeing Cyndi Lauper in concert, but not if I had to see her open for Cher . I've always loved the live video for Money Changes Everything, that's how I always imagined a Cyndi concert would be. A little wacky, but pretty much your average rock show. No big costume changes, no stupid sets, no 28 dancers doing the same stupid move. I think if that's what her shows are like, I'd love to catch one.

jayaredee said:

I wouldn't mind seeing Cyndi Lauper in concert, but not if I had to see her open for Cher . I've always loved the live video for Money Changes Everything, that's how I always imagined a Cyndi concert would be. A little wacky, but pretty much your average rock show. No big costume changes, no stupid sets, no 28 dancers doing the same stupid move. I think if that's what her shows are like, I'd love to catch one.

alot of things

Axchi696 said:

And if you woulda seen her open for Cher, you would have seen just that! She opened the set wtih Money Changes Everything.

You could insert earplugs and leave right after Cyndi's bit

And if you woulda seen her open for Cher, you would have seen just that! She opened the set wtih Money Changes Everything.

RipHer2Shreds said:

That song is amazing. Cyndi has covered several songs in a superior way, and that's one of them. The other is I Drove All Night. I still don't think anyone's surpassed her version.